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Always wanted to build a super gaming pc and now im finally in the position to go all out but with everything thats going on im just wondering is it worth building this year? Feel like I maybe be missing something but idk thats why I'm here was kinda messing around the other night

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MBhs9G
 
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I'm all ears you guys all hate the case but what would you recommend? I like the front panel I guess really is all im stoked over about it but please tell me what else is out there I literally just jumped back into this after 10 years of not even thinking about pc stuff and ive never actually able to build one i wanted to go to career center for computers mom wouldn't let me cause i woke up late and would miss bus and no way to get to the school so I dropped out and that was the last of that journey

Nobody hates that case, it's just the fact it's so ridicolously overpriced and actual cooling wise it isn't anything special at all, just merely ok.
Its a $300 case, you overpaid immensely for it.

PCPartPicker Part List...
Was not expecting this much reaction lol the people have spoken and shut me down. I thought it was a cool idea apparently not going for 4k! Going to have to do my research thanks for all the great answers 🤙🏻

lol. We don't want you to buy something at that price that would not give much more performance than a 2-3k system. If you want a 4K system after your research please do post again in this forum with your parts and I will be there helping. 🤙🏻
 
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Always wanted to build a super gaming pc and now im finally in the position to go all out but with everything thats going on im just wondering is it worth building this year? Feel like I maybe be missing something but idk thats why I'm here was kinda messing around the other night

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MBhs9G

QHD resolution is now the sweet spot. QHD 144 Hz monitors are not that expensive and a GTX 1070 and more can handle it.

Moving to 4K needs a good graphic card and a good monitor and they are not cheap. If you have thousands of dollars to spare it can be done, but in a year or two, the configuration would be cheaper, and you would be wondering why you spent that money at the time.

About 8K don't even try. It is too much for even the best graphic card today, and I am not sure if there is any 8k monitor supporting G-sync or Freesync.
 
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QHD resolution is now the sweet spot. QHD 144 Hz monitors are not that expensive and a GTX 1070 and more can handle it.

Moving to 4K needs a good graphic card and a good monitor and they are not cheap. If you have thousands of dollars to spare it can be done, but in a year or two, the configuration would be cheaper, and you would be wondering why you spent that money at the time.

About 8K don't even try. It is too much for even the best graphic card today, and I am not sure if there is any 8k monitor supporting G-sync or Freesync.
I know thats the struggle wait and buy it later when its cheaper but then the next big thing is on its way out and the thing i just bought is on its way out im not rich but the stock markets been a blessing this year (I just got in March) and I'm ready to build a hella build for gaming and trading 😎 always been a console player and cannot wait to try pc!
 
Luckily 4k allows you to use a less expensive CPU, as the GPU is the limiting factor at such resolution.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/R8mN3t

I think 2080ti prices and availability right now is messed up since they are getting replaced soon.
I'm waiting for the new one so I can be totally up to date for a couple years hopefully lol and like I said money is not a huge factor but I'm not rich just made some bucks this year 😎
 
I know thats the struggle wait and buy it later when its cheaper but then the next big thing is on its way out and the thing i just bought is on its way out im not rich but the stock markets been a blessing this year (I just got in March) and I'm ready to build a hella build for gaming and trading 😎 always been a console player and cannot wait to try pc!
There is ALWAYS something new on the horizon.
But currently, you're chasing a solution and performance that won't exist for a few years.
 
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That's just it. It's a "cool idea". Which is what the marketers jump on. It just isn't very realistic in practice like it is in theory. In reality it is very likely you would not be able to tell ANY difference, at all, whatsoever, between a 4k and an 8k display unless you had a VERY large panel AND you were extremely close to it, in which case you could not actually USE it anyway.
 
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Here is the list:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 4950X ($750.00)
CPU Cooler: Corsair iCUE H150i RGB PRO XT 75 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($159.99 @ Best Buy)
Motherboard: Asus ROG Crosshair VIII Formula ATX AM4 Motherboard ($584.20 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z Neo 128 GB (4 x 32 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($479.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Sabrent Rocket Q4 4 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($749.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Gold 8 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($265.99 @ Western Digital)
Storage: Western Digital Gold 8 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($265.99 @ Western Digital)
Video Card: NVIDIA RTX3080Ti ($1350.00)
Video Card: NVIDIA RTX3080Ti ($1350.00)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo 719 ATX Full Tower Case ($189.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair 1600 W 80+ Titanium Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($559.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: LG OLED CX 55" 4K@120Hz G-Sync ($1499.00 @ LG)
Keyboard: Corsair K95 RGB PLATINUM XT Wired Gaming Keyboard ($169.99 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Logitech G Pro Wireless Wireless Optical Mouse ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Audio: Sennheiser GSX 1200 PRO Gaming Audio Amplifier (507080) ($249.00 @ Amazon)
Audio: AmazonBasics USB 2.0 Cable - A-Male to B-Male - 6 Feet (1.8 Meters) ($5.27 @ Amazon)
Audio: Sennheiser HD 660 S - HiRes Audiophile Open Back Headphone ($499.00)
Audio: AmazonBasics CL3 Rated (In-Wall Installation) Toslink Cable - 6 Feet ($8.88 @ Amazon)
Audio: Monolith 124459 Desktop Headphone Amplifier and Dac with THX AAA Technology (Dual AKM 4493 Dacs & Dual Aaa-788 Modules) ($499.99 @ Amazon)
Audio: Audio-Technica ATGM2 Detachable Boom Microphone ($79.00 @ Amazon)
Audio: TISINO 3.5mm to Dual XLR Stereo Cable 1/8 inch Mini Jack to 2 XLR Male Y Splitter Adapter Cord- 6.6 FT ($14.99 @ Amazon)
Audio: AudioQuest Tower 3.5mm to RCA Cable (Black) - 1.9ft ($27.95 @ Amazon)
Desk: AmazonBasics Shelf Bracket - 20" x 13", Black, 10-Pack ($84.64 @ Amazon)
Desk: Counter Top ($69.00)
Total: $10012.83
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-08-26 16:26 EDT-0400


This is a Full Package of Experience. Going with 4K over 8K will give you better visual as well as user experience. Because going 8K visually the limitation will not be of sharpness but of smoothness.

CPU and GPUs Listed are Place Holders. Same goes for Motherboard.

Rest of the System is on the spot. All high quality top of the line components.

I did not limit expenditure to PC Tower but spent on picking up best Video and Audio setup.

LG OLED CX 55". Superb Picture quality in combo of G-Sync gaming experience cannot be beat. And with upcoming GPUs support of HDMI2.1 you will get full 4K@120 experience no holding back.

The decent Mid-Range but high quality audio equipment will be up with you for a long time even after replacement of Main PC tower for next upgrade.
 
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Here is the list:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 4950X ($750.00)
CPU Cooler: Corsair iCUE H150i RGB PRO XT 75 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($159.99 @ Best Buy)
Motherboard: Asus ROG Crosshair VIII Formula ATX AM4 Motherboard ($584.20 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z Neo 128 GB (4 x 32 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($479.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Sabrent Rocket Q4 4 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($749.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Gold 8 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($265.99 @ Western Digital)
Storage: Western Digital Gold 8 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($265.99 @ Western Digital)
Video Card: NVIDIA RTX3080Ti ($1350.00)
Video Card: NVIDIA RTX3080Ti ($1350.00)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo 719 ATX Full Tower Case ($189.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair 1600 W 80+ Titanium Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($559.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: LG OLED CX 55" 4K@120Hz G-Sync ($1499.00 @ LG)
Keyboard: Corsair K95 RGB PLATINUM XT Wired Gaming Keyboard ($169.99 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Logitech G Pro Wireless Wireless Optical Mouse ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Audio: Sennheiser GSX 1200 PRO Gaming Audio Amplifier (507080) ($249.00 @ Amazon)
Audio: AmazonBasics USB 2.0 Cable - A-Male to B-Male - 6 Feet (1.8 Meters) ($5.27 @ Amazon)
Audio: Sennheiser HD 660 S - HiRes Audiophile Open Back Headphone ($499.00)
Audio: AmazonBasics CL3 Rated (In-Wall Installation) Toslink Cable - 6 Feet ($8.88 @ Amazon)
Audio: Monolith 124459 Desktop Headphone Amplifier and Dac with THX AAA Technology (Dual AKM 4493 Dacs & Dual Aaa-788 Modules) ($499.99 @ Amazon)
Audio: Audio-Technica ATGM2 Detachable Boom Microphone ($79.00 @ Amazon)
Audio: TISINO 3.5mm to Dual XLR Stereo Cable 1/8 inch Mini Jack to 2 XLR Male Y Splitter Adapter Cord- 6.6 FT ($14.99 @ Amazon)
Audio: AudioQuest Tower 3.5mm to RCA Cable (Black) - 1.9ft ($27.95 @ Amazon)
Desk: AmazonBasics Shelf Bracket - 20" x 13", Black, 10-Pack ($84.64 @ Amazon)
Desk: Counter Top ($69.00)
Total: $10012.83
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-08-26 16:26 EDT-0400


This is a Full Package of Experience. Going with 4K over 8K will give you better visual as well as user experience. Because going 8K visually the limitation will not be of sharpness but of smoothness.

CPU and GPUs Listed are Place Holders. Same goes for Motherboard.

Rest of the System is on the spot. All high quality top of the line components.

I did not limit expenditure to PC Tower but spent on picking up best Video and Audio setup.

LG OLED CX 55". Superb Picture quality in combo of G-Sync gaming experience cannot be beat. And with upcoming GPUs support of HDMI2.1 you will get full 4K@120 experience no holding back.

The decent Mid-Range but high quality audio equipment will be up with you for a long time even after replacement of Main PC tower for next upgrade.

If there is one thing you do with that system it's not buy it.
 
Care to explain?
Because it's just another "sort price highest to lowest" system.

For your uses with 4k gaming:
Do you need 20tb of storage that costs over a grand? No.
Will you benefit from spending $500 on 128gb ram instead of a decent $115 32gb kit? No.
Will you benefit from SLI in 98% of games? No. A better single GPU like a 3090 would be a better investment.
Will you benefit from spending $750 on a CPU instead of a cheaper one at 4k? No.
Will you notice a benefit from spending $500 on a motherboard? No.

You could spend half or less of what that costs and get 0 performance reduction, or in the case of single GPU vs sli, the cheaper single GPU would be better performance.
 
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Care to explain?

Where do I even start.

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 4950X ($750.00)
Ok. That is fine. Let's say that the 4950X is 750 and not a 1000 dollars. This doesn't matter much right. Not out yet.

CPU Cooler: Corsair iCUE H150i RGB PRO XT 75 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($159.99 @ Best Buy)
That's ok.

Motherboard: Asus ROG Crosshair VIII Formula ATX AM4 Motherboard ($584.20 @ Amazon)
Not cheap but hey it's a motherboard. People do buy 600 dollars board. That system could have a 200-300 dollars board and still function like it's supposed to be with good VRM's.

Memory: G.Skill Trident Z Neo 128 GB (4 x 32 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($479.99 @ Newegg)
No one need 128GB of RAM unless you do heavy workstation stuff. Since you have the budget. 16GB is enough at the moment. So let's say you a 2x16GB RAM KIT which is more than enough for the years to come.

Storage: Sabrent Rocket Q4 4 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($749.99 @ Amazon)
That is ridiculous. That PCIE 4.0 NVMe drive load stuff 1-2 seconds faster than a PCIe 3.0 NVMe. Not worth it. The only real difference is when you move files from and to the same NVMe or another PCIe 4.0 NVMe.

Storage: 2 X Western Digital Gold 8 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($265.99 @ Western Digital)
Do you really need 2 8TB 300 dollars HDD? I think a normal 3-4TB seagate is more than enough for a build like this. Disk space can easily be added later if you want. No need to buy 20TB right away.

Video Card: NVIDIA RTX3080Ti ($1350.00)
One is enough. SLI is dead.

Case: Phanteks Enthoo 719 ATX Full Tower Case ($189.99 @ Amazon)
That's ok.

Power Supply: Corsair 1600 W 80+ Titanium Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($559.99 @ Newegg)
Not sure you need a 1600 Watts PSU for that. 1000 Watts could be enough right? Never used 2 GPU's in SLI and who knows what will be the power draw of the 3080TI.

Monitor: LG OLED CX 55" 4K@120Hz G-Sync ($1499.00 @ LG)
Meh.

All the stuff below is not really necessary and it's over a thousand dollars.
Audio: Sennheiser GSX 1200 PRO Gaming Audio Amplifier (507080) ($249.00 @ Amazon)
Audio: AmazonBasics USB 2.0 Cable - A-Male to B-Male - 6 Feet (1.8 Meters) ($5.27 @ Amazon)
Audio: Sennheiser HD 660 S - HiRes Audiophile Open Back Headphone ($499.00)
Audio: AmazonBasics CL3 Rated (In-Wall Installation) Toslink Cable - 6 Feet ($8.88 @ Amazon)
Audio: Monolith 124459 Desktop Headphone Amplifier and Dac with THX AAA Technology (Dual AKM 4493 Dacs & Dual Aaa-788 Modules) ($499.99 @ Amazon)
Audio: Audio-Technica ATGM2 Detachable Boom Microphone ($79.00 @ Amazon)
Audio: TISINO 3.5mm to Dual XLR Stereo Cable 1/8 inch Mini Jack to 2 XLR Male Y Splitter Adapter Cord- 6.6 FT ($14.99 @ Amazon)
Audio: AudioQuest Tower 3.5mm to RCA Cable (Black) - 1.9ft ($27.95 @ Amazon)
Desk: AmazonBasics Shelf Bracket - 20" x 13", Black, 10-Pack ($84.64 @ Amazon)

You could build 2-3 systems for that budget that would have the exact same performance as this.
 
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I just dont understand whats the point in the better parts of it doesn't increase speed and performance? You guys keep saying build a cheaper build with same specs I don't get it?
Your original parts list, and that of King Drazner, looked liked someone just strolled through pcpartpicker, selecting the most expensive parts in each category. Just to fill out a $10,000+ budget.

More expensive is not always better performance.
 
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Sometimes there simply ISN'T better performance to be had, no matter how much you pay for it, and when that's then anybody who pays more than what it costs to get to the point where better performance, eye candy or features either stop improving or become irrelevant, are just stupidly throwing money away. Nothing anybody says, here, or someplace else, will change that. It is, what it is.
 
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Your original parts list, and that of King Drazner, looked liked someone just strolled through pcpartpicker, selecting the most expensive parts in each category. Just to fill out a $10,000+ budget.

More expensive is not always better performance.
I googled the best gamin parts individually on a quick search and thats just the parts that popped up 🤷🏻‍♂️
 
So, you want to do this once, because:

Always wanted to build a super gaming pc and now im finally in the position to go all out

SO, my advice would be, wait. I know that's not what you want to hear and USUALLY it's not what we say, because there is almost always something "bigger and better" right around the corner. However, in this case, there are two, MAJOR releases coming. The Nvidia 3000 series graphics cards which early indications are that this is going to be another major boost in performance over current 2000 series models. And the Ryzen 4000 series Zen 3 desktop processors which will likely take the single core performance crown for consumer hardware AND retain the title for core count as well, at a significantly lower power consumption level than anything Intel has to offer in this segment.

Nvidia coming in September, Zen 3 supposedly coming not long after. I think these are worth waiting for because to be honest the current crop of Intel CPUs, which are a refresh of a refresh of a refresh of a refresh, are really not very noteworthy and are terrible when it comes to power consumption on the higher core count parts.

But that's your call, of course. As far as your build is concerned, there are seriously poor choices, no offense, among those parts, and a really unbalanced selection between the parts and the quality. In short, it basically looks like a rookie outlined it, which is no fault of yours, because you ARE a rookie. We were ALL rookies at one point in time, so we've all been there and we've all done exactly that.

If you were going to build right now, at the very high end, then I'd look more at something like this. Note, this does not include a graphics card, and you already know why. This is not just "find the most expensive thing and throw it in there". This is ALL exceptional high quality, known superior performance, best in class features parts. While there are always personal preferences to any build, such as RGB and case aesthetics, I don't think anybody will want to argue with the merits of this build if you were to built it today and then throw a flagship 3000 series card in there. It would be extremely hard to beat without waiting for the next Gen CPUs.

The displays, I'll leave up to you and perhaps those are a good subject for an entirely different thread, or an extension of this one, because those two will require a somewhat lengthy discussion on exactly what is going to work the best for you. I think we've already established that those will be 4k monitors but there are a number of other very important aspects to the selection of one such as panel type, size (Because, it NEEDS to be a specific size based on where you can realistically PLACE them in relation to where you will be sitting), and so on.

And if anybody wants to question ANY specific component choice below, I'll be more than happy to explain EXACTLY why that specific model was selected and why I believe it's the best choice for the build, within reason, without simply going ridiculously out of our minds with spending money unnecessarily on things that likely won't improve anything.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor ($429.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 CHROMAX.BLACK 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler ($99.95 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock X570 Taichi ATX AM4 Motherboard ($299.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL14 Memory ($214.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate FireCuda 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($189.99 @ B&H)
Storage: Seagate IronWolf NAS 6 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($159.99 @ Adorama)
Case: Fractal Design Meshify S2 ATX Mid Tower Case ($158.99 @ B&H)
Power Supply: SeaSonic PRIME Ultra Titanium 850 W 80+ Titanium Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($258.98 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($108.78 @ Other World Computing)
Case Fan: Noctua NF-A14 PWM chromax.black.swap 82.52 CFM 140 mm Fan ($24.90 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Noctua NF-A14 PWM chromax.black.swap 82.52 CFM 140 mm Fan ($24.90 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Noctua NF-A14 PWM chromax.black.swap 82.52 CFM 140 mm Fan ($24.90 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Noctua NF-A14 PWM chromax.black.swap 82.52 CFM 140 mm Fan ($24.90 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Noctua NF-A14 PWM chromax.black.swap 82.52 CFM 140 mm Fan ($24.90 @ Amazon)
Total: $2045.16
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-08-27 00:02 EDT-0400
 
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