Is my E8400 overheating?

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I recently bought this PC: https://secure.newegg.com/NewVersion/Wishlist/PublicWishDetail.asp?WishListNumber=8273628&WishListTitle=secondtake

I'm using everything stock with no overclocking yet. However it came to my attention that my CPU seems maybe to be a little hot. Can anyone tell me of this is normal?

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This is being idle...I didn't run a stress test or anything yet...is this an issue?
 
I downloaded orthos and the CPU went as high as 73 for CORE1 and 71 for CORE2 before I turned it off...it was on for about three or four minutes before I stopped out of worry. This isn't good, is it?
 
reseat your CPU cooler. It sounds a little on the hot side.

Edit: what program is giving you 73 degrees? It may not be reporting accurately.
 
Well, if you have more thermal paste, go ahead and pull it, grease it up, and reseat it. If not, try undoing the clips and not pull the heatsink off. Then push down on the cpu cooler a little and fasten the clips again.

Edit, I keep editing. Blah. Brain not functioning right now 😛
 
I pulled the heatsink off without extra thermal paste before. Do you think this is the reason? One of the clips on the cooler does not want to fit in correctly and keeps popping off, its somewhat stable but shaky. The rest are rock solid.

Should I buy some more thermal paste and put some? Is me removing it and putting it back on with some the cause? Or is my CPU just messed up?
 
Quick and easy test to see if your heatsink is correctly installed. Run Orthos again. If the temperature rises to 70C touch the heatsink. If you can't touch the heatsink because it is too hot then the processor is not working correctly. If the heatsink feels cool to the touch which I'm betting it will be then your heatsink is not fastened correctly. Best way to tell if you have it securely fasten is to look at the backside of the board when it is out of the chassis and observe that all 4 black pins are showing equally through the motherboard.

Another thing to try is have the system laying flat. Remove the heatsink and just place it on the processor. Don't attempt to lock it down. Wiggle it back and forth to make sure it is sitting on the heatsink squarely and then turn your system back on and monitor temperatures. If should heatup to around 40 C at idle or less. If it goes higher you still don't have the heatsink sitting squarely on the processor heatspreader.

It is very hard these days to damage your processor. It will thermally protect itself by design by either asserting Stop_Clk or by automatically shutting the system down.
 
Any time you remopunt replace the paste. And having one clip not mounted properly is really bad. Remove the mobo from the case to do it right. Experianced ones always realize it take time, and pulling the mobo is time, we live with it.

Thermal paste. MX-2 I use. Artic Silver and another called AS-5 is good. Petras in cali is great, nice peeps, I try to order from them if they have it and prices are good there too.

Get paste, pull mobo, do it right. Read up on proper paste application. You do it wrong it's not pretty. And read some more.
 
I don't have Orthos installed, but I've got around 40C at idle with CoreTemp, and while running two instances of Prime95, I get 44/51 on the two cores (after 10+ minutes). But I'm overclocked to 3.8GHz as well, and using a Scythe Ninja cooler.

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The paste could have some effect on the temperature, but it shouldn't send it over 70 in any case. The loose fit of the CPU cooler may have a bigger effect. If you don't feel like springing 20-30 bucks for an aftermarket cooler, you could try get some new paste and reseat the cpu cooler in another position, like rotating it 90degrees to see if the clips will all line up better. Make sure to clean off the old paste first though.
 
Okay, so the reasons it might be running too high is because when I remounted, I didn't apply paste, and that one clip not mounting properly can be an issue.

I tried putting it in correctly but that stupid clip just wont mount right. Should I buy Freezer 7 Pro for a replacement heatsink and buy Arctic Silver 5 to repaste?
 
The Heatsink and paste are fine.

Please check to make sure that you did not damage the white peg that push through the motherboard. If these don't properly line up with the holes in the motherboard they will cause the clip not to work correctly when you push the black pin down.
 
The thing is people are saying I need to repaste when infact I have none.. andthe heatsink clip just doesnt want to stick through no matter what...
 
Did you look at the white plastic feet to see if they are aligned when you pulled it off last time? I have seen them bent and then they won't go through the hole in the motherboard. When that happens that side of the heatsink will be loose like what you are talking about.

That is why I mentioned you should pull the motherboard out of the chassis and check to see if the all the black pegs are showing through the motherboard. Also the white plastic feet will be poking through further than the black pegs. If you don't see this you know the heatsink is not seated correctly.
 
What I did was buy the heatsink I spoke of along with the paste as well. I'll keep off this computer until they come in. Thanks guys.
 
You'd still need new paste. But if the cooler can be reseated correctly, then there wouldn't be a need to get a new cooler, unless you just want to get it.
 
Okay, well no matter what...this is an issue with the paste/HSF..right? The CPU itself isnt an issue?

Also, do I have to remove the old paste somehow? Or just apply some new paste? Do I just bust some on or is there some special technique?
 
Just remove the old paste with rubbing alcohol and some lintfree paper towel. As for application, the new cooler will come pre applied with paste.
If you really want to do your own paste, there are 2 techniques:
1. put a small drop of paste, about the size of grain of rice, on the center of the heat spreader. Seat cpu cooler.
2. Small drop again, and spread it very thin with something with a flat edge. Then mount the cooler.

The technique doesn't really matter as long as you don't have too little or too much paste on.
 
Thanks. I could do all this while the mobo is still screwed in, right? I should only take it out if the clips don't fit into the mobo like the current heatsink does..?
 
Correct. You may want to remove the CPU from the socket while cleaning it though. It is just easier than reaching inside the chassis.
 
All right... thanks again. I'll update this topic once I get the parts then...(I'm guessing monday)

Edit: How did the temps look for the rest though? Particularly GPU? Also, since I'm adding my own paste, do I have to clean the paste off the new heatsink as well since it comes preapplied? Or do I just stick it on either way?