Is nobody at least rooting for AMD?

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Sure, Core 2 is currently faster than Athlon X2, but if AMD goes under, who is to compete with Intel? What incentive will Intel have to keep pumping out faster chips at a lower price? I don't want to see Netburst happen again. 🙁

So I'm hoping Phenom will blow Core 2's socks off. :)
 
Your not going to find too many people (if any) who want to see AMD go down, if for no other reason than competative pricing.

On the other hand, all AMD has given us to date are a few poorly conceived graphs touting simulations of CPUs running at estimated clockspeeds and a whole truckload of hype. Very few people like it when someone tries to sell them on something by feeding them BS.

Niether simulations nor rhetoric run applications. AMD needs to produce the product, because since Jul 06, they've produced very little to get excited about.
 

After 10+ years of happy AMD powered 'pooting I feel the the same, the problem is that Penryn may well kick Phenom in the goolies so hard it drops to it's knees and is unable to get up.
 
Yes, I'm rooting for AMD but my last system was an Intel.
If I had to buy today, it would be an Intel system.

I may be rooting for AMD, but I'm going to buy what makes sense for me.
 
Rooting for AMD right now is like rooting that the Cubs will win a World Series.

AMD is to Intel what Pepsi is to Coke. In the long run, I hope AMD comes back. Competition is a great thing.
 

😍 I'm loving your optimism dude. [:mousemonkey:5]
 


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WRONG. You spew fanboy fud. #1 sign of a fanboy, fact twisting and source misquoting.

Your not quoting the source right. AMD is selling more processors, IN THE RETAIL MARKET. Make no mistake, Intel sells more processors.

Also, although AMD sold more units, Intel actually sold more in dollars. Which means that AMD gained ground through its yardsale of products such as the X2 3600.

Also, if you'd like to know how much AMD profited from all this progress here is a hint:

ZERO

AMD hasn't made a cent in a while. Gaining marketshare is good, but bankruptcy and 52-week low stock prices are not good.

Also, AMD's optimistic goal for 2008 is to have 1/3 of TOTAL CPU market share.

So, to put things into perspective and reality, the gain of RETAIL market share is good, however, AMD is still a minority player in the CPU duopoly and also is facing impending financial doom if they don't start making profits.
 
I'm wondering if AMD could survive a shift in relationship from active competitor to clear cut second banana that produces CPUs at cut rates. There is a market for cheaper processors but would the public lose confidence and jump off the AMD bandwagon all together? Successfully taking such a demotion would still allow AMD to be in a position to regain their former glory if their R&D team makes the necessary breakthroughs.
 


It is 2007 in case you didn't notice. And sometimes the power cost is negated by the increase in productivity, customer support, and/or availability.
 
Even I agree, in 2005 AMD was much better than Intel, but now is entirely different.
 


The spot is already taken by VIA. :lol:



 
July '06 has been WAAAAYYY tooooo long for anything new from AMD. I think the ATI merger has severely delayed things at AMD, which isn't good. Hopefully AMD will come out with a good design/chip for the industry, since I work in the industry. I see first hand, at my job, what the competition is doing, so I know more information. I have bought both Intel/AMD chips, but would like the competition to heat up ASAP!!
 



Well AMD must be doing much better than Intel because AMD sells way more graphics cards (non integrated) than Intel does..... 😱 :ouch: 😱

 
AMD is still strong.Just because INTEL has a faster cpu,doesn't make it the best choice.Pound for pound,AMD still has the stuff to make it work.I've had both systems before,and I always found AMD to be cheaper than INTEL.AMD still games like a hot damn,and does everything I need it to with room to spare.Not to worry,AMD is going to be around for a long time yet.

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I've bought intel and nvidia products but hell I'd hate to see AMD/ATI go down!!

They make the cheaper stuff, that most of my relatives and friends buy. Tbh I see AMD as the lightside and Intel as the darkside, AMD mayl still win yet..

dark side is cooler though :)
 
VIVA AMD!

no one wants them to go down, just like no one want apple(i hate apple) or unix or sun microsystems or novell etc etc. to die cause then microsoft would be all we had left.
 
Umm, did I get off the bus at the wrong year? Who in their right mind quotes a COMPUTER article dated from almost 2 years ago? All I can say is WOW. You know back in the 1970s there was this really small company called Microsoft! It's just a matter of time until IBM buys them out. IBM wants Bill Gates to write some DOS stuff for them, and they're thinking their best bet is to just flat out buy him. I'm rooting for IBM on this deal!

/sarcasm

You guys are so freakin' dumb! AMD isn't selling more processors, because they're more concerned with quality! If I buy an AMD processor it will surely last twice as long as an Intel chip! Never mind when it gets outdated. I want that chip to work for as long as I can imagine I'd own it! Now.. does anyone have a 8086 handy?

/sarcasm off
 
Things do look very bad for AMD right now but I think they can bounce back in the game (they don't have to beat Intel, but coming at close second will shake Intel a bit). Remember the old days with 386 and 486 when they would copy Intel and even the awful K5 CPU they had? AMD has had it rough before and I'm optimistic they will gain market share (again,i'm not saying they will beat Intel but maybe that's not necessary).
Go AMD, GO!!!!!
 
I just want to see Intel get what they deserve ... a massive kick in the pants.

I hope the ATrust suit sees them paying up bigtime ... the evidence is overwhelming ... despite their efforts to "lose" e-mails etc etc.

Knocking them down a notch and giving AMD a break to recover might see us all benefit in the end.

I think it would be good to see three platform solutions - this means NVIDIA making their own CPU.

The current situation means that if AMD goes belly up we won't see any innovation from Intel ... well maybe 50 Mhz spped bumps every 6 months lol.

I'm more annoyed by getting stuck with socket 939 a while back ... losing a simple upgrade path whether your on one platform or the other hurts bigtime when the mobo, cpu, and RAM all have to go at once.

Intel's latest socket (depending on chipset) has been a pleasant ride for many ... much like A . 462 / 478. Socket 939 and 423 have been sad.

I just hope my current AM2 mobos like the quad coming on the 10th ... or my love affair with AMD is going to be sour.



 
I'm rooting for AMD, yeah!

If they don't make it Intel will sit on their fat asses and refuse to innovate and develop whilst charging an arm and leg for last years chip with two extra SSE instructions and 50Mhz increase, slap a new name on its butt like Ultracore.

But, its hard to root for AMD since they have had sooooo loooong to get their act together even before Intel released the cores. They had the whole netburst generation to bring innovation down to bear on Intel's mistake.

All they did was keep bragging, racking in the dough and adding "accessories" to their aging architecture. They got caught with their pants down stupid.

I like rooting for the underdog, not so much a stupid underdog.


 
AMD makes sense from a money/performance standpoint. All systems I have been building lately have been AMD based systems. I am now using AMD myself.

I am supporting AMD as much as possible so if they go down its not by my doing... =P

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