Question Is the 4070 Ti Super worth the extra money ?

[Huwar]

Hey there, so I have an incredibly simple question compared to many other posts perhaps.

I’m simply wondering is the 4070 Ti Super worth the extra money?

I know the 4070 Super is great value but on my current 3060-Ti I only have 8 GB VRAM which sometimes isn’t enough to play some games at 1440p max settings which has made me a bit paranoid about VRAM and seeing that the 4070 Ti Super has 16GB VRAM instead of 12 of the regular 4070 Super makes this question appear.

In summary: I’m slightly paranoid about VRAM and wondering if the 4070 Ti-S is worth the extra money over the 4070-S?

 

[35below0]

Short answer: yes.
Long answer: Also yes.

Now, is the 4070 Ti Super the perfect card, or perfect value? That depends on your gaming demands. What you menion, 1440p max settings, is going to need at least a 4070 of some kind and the Ti Super is the best one.

For a better card, you'd have to look at a 4080. I don't have benchmark results handy but you can look them up, compare the gain the 4080 provides over the 4070 Ti Super, then compare their costs to see how far the 4070 Ti Super trails the 4080 series in both performance and cost.
I think it's better value.

 

[Eximo]

If you just scale them by CUDA count it is pretty clear where things land. 4070 Super is a massive gain and effectively replaces the 4070Ti for the money. 4070 Ti Super compared to the 4080 Super is nearly perfect price/performance improvement ratio. So basically comes down to have you have to spend. 4070Ti Super is a bigger die, but the power limit is severe, so you can't really overclock it much.

4060 (3072) -$300
3060Ti (4864)
4060 Ti 8GB (4352) -$400
4060 Ti 16GB (4352) -$500

4070 (5888) -$600 -Functionally obsolete
4070 Super (7168) -$600
4070 Ti (7680) - $800 Functionally obsolete

4070 Ti Super (8448) -$800
4080 (9728) - $1200 - Functionally obsolete
4080 Super (10240) -$1000

 

[mjbn1977]

If you just scale them by CUDA count it is pretty clear where things land. 4070 Super is a massive gain and effectively replaces the 4070Ti for the money. 4070 Ti Super compared to the 4080 Super is nearly perfect price/performance improvement ratio. So basically comes down to have you have to spend. 4070Ti Super is a bigger die, but the power limit is severe, so you can't really overclock it much.

4060 (3072) -$300
3060Ti (4864)
4060 Ti 8GB (4352) -$400
4060 Ti 16GB (4352) -$500

4070 (5888) -$600 -Functionally obsolete
4070 Super (7168) -$600
4070 Ti (7680) - $800 Functionally obsolete

4070 Ti Super (8448) -$800
4080 (9728) - $1200 - Functionally obsolete
4080 Super (10240) -$1000

Overclocking on modern Nvidia graphics cards is kinda obsolete anyway. Due to turboboost you get best performance out of the box anyway and whatever you can squeeze out of those high end cards manually is neglectable (like getting from 102fps to 104???). If anything, maybe a little VRAM overclocking can help in some situations but most of the time not. Gone are the times where you could squeeze 20% more performance out of a graphics card with Afterburner.

 

[Huwar]

If you just scale them by CUDA count it is pretty clear where things land. 4070 Super is a massive gain and effectively replaces the 4070Ti for the money. 4070 Ti Super compared to the 4080 Super is nearly perfect price/performance improvement ratio. So basically comes down to have you have to spend. 4070Ti Super is a bigger die, but the power limit is severe, so you can't really overclock it much.

4060 (3072) -$300
3060Ti (4864)
4060 Ti 8GB (4352) -$400
4060 Ti 16GB (4352) -$500

4070 (5888) -$600 -Functionally obsolete
4070 Super (7168) -$600
4070 Ti (7680) - $800 Functionally obsolete

4070 Ti Super (8448) -$800
4080 (9728) - $1200 - Functionally obsolete
4080 Super (10240) -$1000

Overclockinng isn’t really something I think I’ll be doing. As for the -80 series, those would be great but I think I’d rather save a bit of money and get either the -70 Ti-S or -70-S.

 

[Eximo]

You can still get around 5-10% performance increase when you have power headroom. 4070 Ti Super just doesn't allow for it. But generally I agree.

80 class cards aren't a recommendation. Just pointing out that the difference between the 4080 Super and 4070Ti Super scales with cost. Only the 4070 Super and 4090 break the trend.

 

[logainofhades]

Worth it is something really only you can decide. Personally, as I care 0 about RT, I would choose a 7900xt. It is faster, has more V-ram, and is about $100 cheaper.

 

[SkyNetRising]

In summary: I’m slightly paranoid about VRAM and wondering if the 4070 Ti-S is worth the extra money over the 4070-S?

If VRAM is your main concern, then choose AMD insdead.
4070 super equivalent are RX 7800 XT and RX 7900 GRE
4070 ti super equivalent is RX 7900 XT.

More vram, more friendly price, similar rasterization performance.
If your workload depends on RTX, DLSS, CUDA, then and only then choose NVIDIA.

 

[hotaru.hino]

In summary: I’m slightly paranoid about VRAM and wondering if the 4070 Ti-S is worth the extra money over the 4070-S?

The issue with VRAM I would argue is still up in the air. Yes more is better, but it's still a question of what and when it matters.

If you plan on playing games in 4K, then yes, more VRAM usually matters more, but mostly because higher resolution textures stay in memory more often, which often results in hitching during scenes when textures need to be loaded/unloaded. A lot of news I see about this tend to focus on maxing out the quality settings, though there might be one or two that used a level lower preset (i.e., "High" vs. "Ultra/Max")

In any case, the "this game will make a highish-end NVIDIA card stutter because not enough VRAM" as far as I'm concerned seems to be the exception, not the rule. Though Capcom seems to be making it the rule for them. And I'm still not satisfied that people reporting these things have a clear picture on VRAM utilization. Like recently Gamers Nexus had a piece on how current frame rate/time measurements aren't enough still. We need that with VRAM to really get the full picture.

Overall I recommend getting something that works with what you want to play now and not worry about the future as much. It's not like these cards will go obsolete, which I'll define here as unable to push a smooth 60 FPS experience at 1080p "high" quality settings, overnight.

 

[Eximo]

3080 Ti 12GB roughly equivalent to a 4070 Super. I haven't really run into performance issues at 1440p.

Another factor to look at. 3080Ti has 6MB L2 cache, 4070 Super has 48MB.

 

[Why_Me]