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I would like to know if these specs can be good for a gaming pc. I am really new at this and i want to build a good gaming pc that is preferably better than the ps4 specs and will last me a few years without upgrading anything. Also, the link is here:

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7782889&sku=B69-1560

I am grateful for any additional info you guys could provide, for ex, how much will a pc cost minimally that will beat the ps4 or xbox720 specs and last about 1-3 years more with any new games on at least medium-high settings.
 
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Hey, you could always start. 2 months ago, I didn't know a thing about computers. Now I'm a forum regular here. Buying my own build in 3 weeks, so I had to tweak to perfectness. Anyway, here's the final build, nothing changed.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($134.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Patriot Gamer 2 Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($47.98 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung...


Because spending a lot of money on a gaming PC (Around $1800 I think) and go for a GTX 760 just isn't right.
 


So faster for cheaper price is not RIGHT?!?

http://www.lanoc.org/review/video-cards/6602-gtx-760-sli-results

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Not when SLIing is going to make your PC sound like a jet plain and run hot, also, on a 60Hz screen there's not MUCH point in getting more than 60 FPS, and anything over 100 it really doesn't matter.

And mirco stutter, although it's been mostly fixed it is still a thing.
 
Not when SLIing is going to make your PC sound like a jet plain and run hot, also, on a 60Hz screen there's not MUCH point in getting more than 60 FPS, and anything over 100 it really doesn't matter.

And mirco stutter, although it's been mostly fixed it is still a thing.

So if you can have better FPS with SLI and cheaper price. It is not a good idea?
So why OP needs then big psu for maybe future SLI? If it is bad idea why even bother to think it? If he do have big PSU so why not make SLI build now. It gives you better FPS and then games will work longer time above 60FPS.

So it is bit hotter. But it is not that much hotter. Need maybe couple case fans.
If it is so much hotter then it do NOT work with much hotter GTX 770? :)
 


Because SLI should only really be something you do maybe 2 years after your built has been built, when it's just starting to feel a bit slow, not right away, because of all the problems, he will be able to get more than 60 fps for a lot longer with SLI 780s.
 

No. It is just wrong way to think like that. I think it is good to make right away or forget it.
Too big PSU for two years? Why? In two years there is faster one video card that can do the job. So you really no not ever need SLI. So it is just stupit to buy too big psu if SLI is maybe. Sure you can find big enough PSU after two years cheaper than now.
I have find all the timebig psu on sale. Small good ones are harder to find cheap.

If GTX 760 SLI is faster and cheaper. Cooling is not issue. Or micro shuttering.
There is not any issue tha is not there after two years. It just better go now SLI or forget it.
You can not beat that SLI 760 with any card price / performance? Now can you?

 


AMD R9-290X > GTX 760 SLI
 


What game is it faster? How much is price in Canada? And when you can nuy it in Canada? Do it work on CF?


 


AMD R9-290X > GTX 780 > GTX 760 SLI
Even though the performance if less with a 780 it's nothing noticeable in real world tests on a 60Hz screen and it runs so much cooler and quieter.

@AxlFone Cooling, noise and Microstuttering are problems.

And yes I can find a better price to performance than GTX 760 SLI, a GTX 760 performs about 55% as well as GTX 760 SLI and it's half the pirce... A HD 7850 is like $130, it's price to performance is insane.
 
Can I borrow your crystal ball?
The R9 290X hasnt been released yet nor does it have any official benchmarks. The only stuff we have was from AMD's Hawaii event, which I would hardly call unbiased. Also claims on "Cooler and Quieter" comes entirely down to the individual card's bin and whatever cooler is strapped to it, not the GPU underneath.

I say that if your buying something like a 780 or the 290X, you should be looking at a 1440p or triple monitors. These cards are fairly overkill for 1080p, they would best be used at 4K but the monitor pricing in that space is still too high for mainstream adoption.
 


When I said cooler and quiter I was talking about the 780 vs 760 SLI, doesn't matter what coolers you're on SLI is going to make more heat, more noise and use more power.

Oh, speaking of value for money, depending on what game your playing a 770 has better price vs performance.
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Actually, there are 3Dmark Firestrike benchmarks...and they exceed even the GTX Titan.

I would call that a pretty good crystal ball, personally...

There were also a bunch of ES benchmarks leaked that showed the R9-290X better at everything but NVidia supported titles...and even then, the Titan wasn't much better. When the 290X won, it was by 8-10+ FPS, when the Titan won, it was by 1-3 FPS and the minimum frame rates were typically lower on the Titan across the board...there may have been 1 or 2 edge cases I overlooked where the minimum FPS was close, but it would have been the exception, not the rule.

Google R9-290X benchmarks and see what I am talking about.

EDIT: Agreed about Monitor though...1440p or 1600p would be significantly more suited to those cards. Or something like 5760x1080p would work too (Triple monitors). AMD did announce native 4K support, and that they had a few amendments made to the VESA 4K standard to improve functionality for GPUs (for all makers).
 


You have some prove this?

Here.Temperatures. http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/geforce_gtx_760_sli_review,5.html
Here Noise levels. http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/geforce_gtx_760_sli_review,6.html
Is that wattage issue if OP do have 900w PSU ?

And if we talk about FPS thel look too AWG FPS.
http://www.ocaholic.ch/modules/smartsection/item.php?itemid=1097&page=9

And some 670 cards are good to SLI too. They can be as fast or faster than 680.
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Zotac/GeForce_GTX_670_Amp_Edition/
If you can find one or two cheap price :)

But if need 3 or 4 GB memory.. Then maybe best buy is GTX 760 with 4GB memory.
SLI or not. They work really good in SLI so why not? Same thing with cars or bikes.
What they say about Mercedes-Benz ? What is better than MB? TWO!
😀 😀 😀 lol Or what is better than hayabusa? You know that super fast bike?
This is. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgzqlE4yo5c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgrKX06caqI

This was good.
http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/32674-lack-of-crossfire-connector-on-r9-290x-explained
" We just realised that we might have forgotten to tell you one thing about the AMD Hawaii launch. The new AMD flagship announced last week is missing one crucial part, it doesn’t have a Crossfire connector anymore. " 😀

But it still works sli or cf or what ever :) Yeah looks good performance card. Cooler looks like crap.
But sure gigabyte and asus are making good coolers to that card too :)



 


Yeah those tests are totally fine, and that's how it will be on an open air test bench with Delta fans blowing into the intakes =P
 
So... what? While that does help me learn more about video cards, it doesn't help me choose on what to buy. Should i go with the R9-290? It it a good option for me? Do i really need it? My minimum is a 7970 Ghz, or a 280X. The thing is, 400 or less is the budget for the video card, especially considering taxes. I'm thinking of buying Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB RAM for $70 and the bundle for 8350 with Gigabyte F-something-AM3+-something-Ud3. What do you think? Should i go for it? Also, planning to finish the build buying by the end of the month. Is it worth it to buy the AMD flagship and build earlier or should i go with Intel and have patience?
 


Either CPU will do you fine, Corsair 1600MHz CL 9 RAM is great, really, since you're at 1080p anything over a GTX 760 is overkill and more than you need, it's down to you weather you want to spend more money or not, keep in mind the more money you spend now the longer it will be before you have to upgrade.
 


If you go with the 8350, then the GA 990FXA-UD3 is a great board, and the corsair RAM should be fine.

The R9-290 should come in about $400, and will support TrueAudio, which is amazing if you haven't heard the demo for it. Picture full 3D surround sound from 2 speakers as well as from a 5.1 or 7.1 setup. Someone's shooting above you? It will sound like they're above you, even in headphones.
 


I'm glad I have an external sound card and a quality (in sound not in build, effing TurtleBeach) headset.
 


You most certainly can...

Look at the Asus M5A99X EVO R2.0, that's a GREAT board, with some really cool features.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1KN4F
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1KN4F/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1KN4F/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($189.98 @ Outlet PC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: Asus M5A99X EVO R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($114.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston Predator Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($58.61 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Corsair Force Series GT 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($226.48 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: Asus Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 3GB Video Card ($389.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 932 Blue ATX Full Tower Case ($117.00 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: PC Power & Cooling Silencer Mk III 850W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($129.99 @ Microcenter)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($18.49 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($85.87 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $1421.36
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-10-04 14:08 EDT-0400)

There is an example you could add your other pieces onto and likely end up under budget.
 
PCP Partlist Update #5:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($195.00 @ Canada Computers)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ NCIX)
Motherboard: Asus M5A97 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($98.75 @ Vuugo)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($74.29 @ DirectCanada)
Storage: Crucial M4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (Purchased For $75.00)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ NCIX)
Wireless Network Adapter: D-Link DWA-566 802.11a/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter (Purchased For $30.00)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case (Purchased For $97.00)
Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast 950W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (Purchased For $120.00)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer (Purchased For $26.00)
Mouse: Razer Dragon Age II DeathAdder Wired Optical Mouse (Purchased For $46.99)
Speakers: Logitech Z313 25W 2.1ch Speakers (Purchased For $40.00)
Headphones: Corsair Vengeance 1300 5.1 Channel Headset (Purchased For $45.00)
Other: Cooler Master CM Quickfire Ultimate (Purchased For $80.00)
Other: Samsung SyncMaster S24C310 Monitor (Purchased For $160.00)
Other: Samsung SyncMaster S24C310 Monitor (Purchased For $160.00)
Other: LifeCam VX3000 (Purchased For $10.00)
Other: R9-280X ($350.00)
Total: $1698.01
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-10-05 16:43 EDT-0400)

So, yeah. I bought the Deathadder Dragon Age II edition (IT LOOK SO AMAZIINNNGGGG). Well onto business then. I did look at the M5A99X EVO R2.0. I think i could get it too. Well, the RAM deal passed, so i'm a bit sad about that, but hell yeah on the mouse. Its selling for 105 on Amazong but i got for $46 on Ebay. I can give the link if anyone wants to buy it. Other other hand, the 280X is basically a 770, so i can get it.

What're your thoughts?
 
looks good kinda bad that cant afford Intel setup. you really didn't need a second monitor. i can understand the mouse and keyboard but personally i would of built the best machine i could afford and worry about the peripheral later. 280x is rebranded 7970 Ghz so i would just buy a regular Sapphire HD 7970 for 310 and overclock it
 


Lolno. Unless you are building a rig over $1000 then AMD is the way to go. The FX-8350 beats many i5s and i7s. All these benchmarks look at specific games in which that Intel processors win marginally over AMD. In the vast world of pc gaming, you will find that AMD will offer a better performance unless you can buy a top of the line Intel cpu. TekSyndicate did a review of the FX-8350 and compared it to some i5s and an i7. Only a couple of games, such as Crysis, played better on intel systems than AMD systems. Go for an AMD build, you won't regret it.AMD cpus are so much easier to overclock so you can get even more performance. Make sure to buy a better cooler though because the stock cooler is not good to use with an overclocked AMD cpu.
 
brpeden82:

Well, i think differently. i think that peripherals should be beast as they are the ones that you actually interact with, and can ruin the experience if you choose bad ones. Besides, i don't need something like the R9-290X or even the R9-290 if benchmarks are an indication. I didn't even need 2 monitors, i just wanted to try them out and get a better experience. It was decided partly on a whim.

StartTrek2013:

AMD does have much better value for money, and considering the difference between that and the i5-4670k, i decided to go for better value considering that i was about $300 over budget. Most of the benchmarks i have seen praise the i5's and the i7's over the the 8350, as well as i. I doubt the TekSyndicate video a bit since i have seen the other benchmarks. I will get the CM212Evo.