[SOLVED] is this build okay?

[CorbinCarmine]

it's my first build. technically not much of a Gamer™️ this is more for casual gaming with friends and light general use. hopefully possibly more for using to make music. i literally know nothing about pcs so please lmk if this is okay <3

CPU: Intel Core i5-12400F 2.5 GHz 6-Core Processor
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black Edition 42 CFM CPU Cooler
Motherboard: Gigabyte Z690 UD DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory
Storage: Samsung 870 Evo 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 8 GB Video Card
Case: NZXT H510 Flow ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit

 

[Hellfire13]

Looks ok. What is your budget and location?

 

[CorbinCarmine]

Looks ok. What is your budget and location?

Pittsburgh. about 1k. the gpu my boyfriend has so i don't need to buy it

 

[Hellfire13]

Pittsburgh. about 1k. the gpu my boyfriend has so i don't need to buy it

Windows, you can install for free and activate later. There is no performance penalty other than some cosmetic limitations...
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/get-windows-10-free-or-cheap,5717.html

You Don't Need a Product Key to Install and Use Windows 10

You probably should get a Windows key, though,

www.howtogeek.com

This should be better...

PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | Intel Core i5-12500 3 GHz 6-Core Processor | $217.94 @ Newegg
CPU Cooler | Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black Edition 42 CFM CPU Cooler | $43.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard | MSI MAG B660M MORTAR WIFI DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard | $174.99 @ Newegg
Memory | G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory | $119.99 @ Newegg
Storage | Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive | $114.99 @ Amazon
Video Card | NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 8 GB Video Card | Purchased For $0.00
Case | NZXT H510 Flow ATX Mid Tower Case | $89.99 @ Best Buy
Power Supply | Corsair RMx (2021) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply | $99.99 @ Amazon
Operating System | Microsoft Windows 11 Home OEM 64-bit | $119.99 @ Amazon
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total | $981.87
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-04-03 21:13 EDT-0400 |

 

[CorbinCarmine]

Windows, you can install for free and activate later. There is no performance penalty other than some cosmetic limitations...
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/get-windows-10-free-or-cheap,5717.html

You Don't Need a Product Key to Install and Use Windows 10

You probably should get a Windows key, though,

www.howtogeek.com

This should be better...

PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | Intel Core i5-12500 3 GHz 6-Core Processor | $217.94 @ Newegg
CPU Cooler | Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black Edition 42 CFM CPU Cooler | $43.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard | MSI MAG B660M MORTAR WIFI DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard | $174.99 @ Newegg
Memory | G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory | $119.99 @ Newegg
Storage | Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive | $114.99 @ Amazon
Video Card | NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 8 GB Video Card | Purchased For $0.00
Case | NZXT H510 Flow ATX Mid Tower Case | $89.99 @ Best Buy
Power Supply | Corsair RMx (2021) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply | $99.99 @ Amazon
Operating System | Microsoft Windows 11 Home OEM 64-bit | $119.99 @ Amazon
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total | $981.87
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-04-03 21:13 EDT-0400 |

oh okay tysm I'll definitely keep all that in mind and run stuff by my bf. you've been very helpful thank you <3

 

[MEMOFLEX]

Windows, you can install for free and activate later. There is no performance penalty other than some cosmetic limitations...
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/get-windows-10-free-or-cheap,5717.html

You Don't Need a Product Key to Install and Use Windows 10

You probably should get a Windows key, though,

www.howtogeek.com

This should be better...

PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | Intel Core i5-12500 3 GHz 6-Core Processor | $217.94 @ Newegg
CPU Cooler | Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black Edition 42 CFM CPU Cooler | $43.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard | MSI MAG B660M MORTAR WIFI DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard | $174.99 @ Newegg
Memory | G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory | $119.99 @ Newegg
Storage | Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive | $114.99 @ Amazon
Video Card | NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 8 GB Video Card | Purchased For $0.00
Case | NZXT H510 Flow ATX Mid Tower Case | $89.99 @ Best Buy
Power Supply | Corsair RMx (2021) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply | $99.99 @ Amazon
Operating System | Microsoft Windows 11 Home OEM 64-bit | $119.99 @ Amazon
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total | $981.87
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-04-03 21:13 EDT-0400 |

All looks good but I would purchase an OEM windows key for $20 and funnel the money saved into another component or save the money.

 

[Hellfire13]

All looks good but I would purchase an OEM windows key for $20 and funnel the money saved into another component or save the money.

Thats an option, but I am not so sure about them. Can be hit and miss at times, or so I have heard.

 

[logainofhades]

Tech deals, on youtube, promotes a site for keys, that they have never had an issue with. You can even get a discount, if you use their promo code. I think Tech Yes City has a site as well. It is still possibly a bit of a gamble though. I have never personally tried them, as I still have plenty of keys left over, from an old technet subscription.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-12700F 2.1 GHz 12-Core Processor ($312.97 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: Scythe Mugen 5 Black Edition 66.47 CFM CPU Cooler ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI MAG B660M MORTAR WIFI DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($174.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: SK hynix Gold P31 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 8 GB Video Card (Purchased For $0.00)
Case: Deepcool MATREXX 40 3FS MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($60.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Antec Earthwatts Gold Pro 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($72.50 @ Amazon)
Total: $921.41
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-04-04 10:14 EDT-0400

 

[MEMOFLEX]

Thats an option, but I am not so sure about them. Can be hit and miss at times, or so I have heard.

I have used them regularly and without issue but you do hear stories of them not working.

As mentioned above there are some larger YouTube channels advertising them - I used a couple from a link on Greg Salazars channel and they were all fine.

I just cannot bring myself to pay full whack for a retail copy when the money saved could used elsewhere.

 

[DSzymborski]

The other problem with cheap keys is that they are also a cheap way to launder money from stolen credit cards.

In any case, I would definitely try, if possible, to avoid an Intel CPU that has an F in the name. Given the GPU supply and demand issues and an older GPU, you don't want to be left in an awkward situation if something happens with the GPU and you don't have a replacement you can swap in. In Intel's case -- unlike with AMD -- since the comparable processor with a GPU can be like a $20 difference (and in some instances, it's even less), I think it's worth hedging your bets.

 

[geofelt]

Your build will work as is... probably.
The caveat is that while the hyper212 advertises lga1700 compatibility, the lga1700 mounting will come only with new stock. Old stock may not have the mounts.
Some other thoughts:

12400F is a very good processor.
But, for some $20 more, I would opt for the non-F version that has integrated graphics. Testing and setup will be easier, and it is cheap insurance if you have discrete graphics card issues.

In the past, I had trouble figuring out how to mount a hyper 212 cooler.
The only instructions were graphic and unclear.
Perhaps new versions have fixed this.
I now use Noctua coolers like the NH-U12s.
They are top quality and are easy to mount properly.

The psu is a good one that can support a future graphics card as good as a 3070:
http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/Page362.htm

On the ssd, you will probably find that a samsung 980 or 970 evo + in 1 tb size costs no more and you would get better sequential speeds.
https://www.newegg.com/samsung-1tb-980/p/N82E16820147804?quicklink=true

 

[Hellfire13]

Without the Windows, you can get a better CPU, that can last you longer, along with the other high quality parts...

PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | Intel Core i7-12700 2.1 GHz 12-Core Processor | $349.99 @ Newegg
CPU Cooler | Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black Edition 42 CFM CPU Cooler | $43.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard | MSI MAG B660M MORTAR WIFI DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard | $174.99 @ Newegg
Memory | G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory | $129.99 @ Newegg
Storage | Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive | $114.99 @ Amazon
Video Card | NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 8 GB Video Card | Purchased For $0.00
Case | NZXT H510 Flow ATX Mid Tower Case | $89.99 @ Best Buy
Power Supply | Corsair RMx (2021) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply | $99.99 @ Amazon
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total | $1003.93
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-04-04 15:52 EDT-0400 |

 

[MEMOFLEX]

The other problem with cheap keys is that they are also a cheap way to launder money from stolen credit cards.

Really? I always assumed they were just system builder keys which was why they were discounted. I take it some sellers are more reputable than others?

 

[Hellfire13]

Really? I always assumed they were just system builder keys which was why they were discounted. I take it some sellers are more reputable than others?

Most are not legit. More about luck, trial and error...
https://www.howtogeek.com/392080/cheap-windows-10-keys-do-they-work/#:~:text=These keys just aren't,the shutdown of these programs.

 

[Why_Me]

Pittsburgh. about 1k. the gpu my boyfriend has so i don't need to buy it

The motherboard down below was rated best entry level B660 board, the cpu cooler guarantees you get an LGA 1700 bracket and that psu is manufactured for Phanteks by Seasonic.

https://www.amazon.com/Phanteks-PH-EC360ATG_DWT01-Ultra-fine-Performance-Digital-RGB/dp/B08KKCLJY7/
Phanteks Eclipse P360A Mid-Tower Case $89.99

Exhaust fan for that case.

https://www.amazon.com/ARCTIC-P12-PWM-Pressure-optimised-Computer/dp/B081VQBB6G/
ARCTIC P12 PWM 120mm 4-Pin Case Fan $9.48

https://www.amazon.com/Phanteks-80PLUS-Supply-Modular-Certified/dp/B07W8ZS9HF/
Phanteks AMP 650W 80+ Gold Modular Power Supply $86.37

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813144531
MSI PRO B660M-A DDR4 $139.99

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/prod...512400f_core_i5_12400f_desktop_processor.html
Intel Core i5-12400F $179.99

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B098D84SLF
Thermalright Assassin Spirit 120 CPU Cooler $30.00

https://www.amazon.com/Thermalright-1700-SS2-Mounting-Coolers-Platform/dp/B09LTQYNSL
Thermalright LGA 1700-SS2 Mounting Kit $8.69

https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-PC4-25600-Desktop-Memory/dp/B07RS1G6XW/

Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3200 16GB (2x8GB) CL16 $73.99

https://www.amazon.com/PNY-CS2140-Internal-Solid-State/dp/B09RPL3RKZ/
PNY CS2140 1TB M.2 NVMe Gen4 x4 Internal SSD $94.99

https://www.amazon.com/Wіndоws-English-License-Lifetime-WINDОWS/dp/B09RZSTSPR/
Wіndоws 10 Home USB | Free update to WINDОWS 11 $99.99

Total: $814

https://phanteks.com/Eclipse-P360A.html

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/PRO-B660M-A-DDR4

 

[DSzymborski]

Really? I always assumed they were just system builder keys which was why they were discounted. I take it some sellers are more reputable than others?

Most turn a blind eye to the sources of their keys, they are gray market ones. The only actually legitimate sources of standalone copies -- as in not included in a prebuilt -- are Microsoft and their authorized retailers. And that's almost always going to be at or near the normal price.

There are no deeply discounted system builder keys. At best those are gray market keys, reselling volume license keys or Educational licenses individually. At worst, it's straight up money laundering with keys bought with stolen credit cards or other stolen cash and flipped.

One gray market practice that has died off considerably is people buying cheap, legitimate keys for programs and games in other countries and selling them for huge discounts in wealthy countries.

This has had the effect of software companies largely curtailing the practice of less expensive versions in third-world countries. In other words, people in third-world countries have a harder time accessing legitimate software because much wealthier people in much wealthier parts of the world wanted to pay $30 for software that costs $100.

I'm not going to tell anybody what to do. There won't be any cops busting down your door over software your purchased at an illegal discount. In the end, everyone has to answer to their own conscience.

 

[logainofhades]

That NZXT case has horrible airflow.

It does not.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVcCuvLMb48

 

[Why_Me]

It does not.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVcCuvLMb48

My bad. I took it for granted that it had a solid front panel.

 

[MEMOFLEX]

Most turn a blind eye to the sources of their keys, they are gray market ones. The only actually legitimate sources of standalone copies -- as in not included in a prebuilt -- are Microsoft and their authorized retailers. And that's almost always going to be at or near the normal price.

There are no deeply discounted system builder keys. At best those are gray market keys, reselling volume license keys or Educational licenses individually. At worst, it's straight up money laundering with keys bought with stolen credit cards or other stolen cash and flipped.

One gray market practice that has died off considerably is people buying cheap, legitimate keys for programs and games in other countries and selling them for huge discounts in wealthy countries.

This has had the effect of software companies largely curtailing the practice of less expensive versions in third-world countries. In other words, people in third-world countries have a harder time accessing legitimate software because much wealthier people in much wealthier parts of the world wanted to pay $30 for software that costs $100.

I'm not going to tell anybody what to do. There won't be any cops busting down your door over software your purchased at an illegal discount. In the end, everyone has to answer to their own conscience.

I think not knowing and not caring are two very different things. The points made are appreciated and taken on board.


I think bringing conscience into it is a bit strong though, as that implies prior knowledge of the points made. It was an attempt to maximise the funds available. Wrongly. Yes. Intentionally so. Not at all.

I don't want to clog up the thread and apologies for any unintentional time wasting.