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LGA 1366 Vs LGA 1156 & (Intel X58 Vs Intel P55)

muhco3

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Hi ,

I'm just about to purchase the parts for building my new gaming PC ,

I was decided to buy Intel Core i7-860 Lynnfield 2.8GHz LGA 1156 =280 $ & ASUS P7P55D-E Pro LGA 1156 Intel P55 S = 190 $

Until I did a further search & reading about different CPUs , I found that :

Intel Core i7-930 Bloomfield 2.8GHz 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 8MB L3 Cache =280$ & ASUS P6X58D-E LGA 1366 Intel X58
= 210 $ "After 20$ promotion"

Is it better than the 860 ? the 2nd combination is 20 $ more ,

If so , which one of the following memories is the best :
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submit=Property&N=2010170147&Manufactory=8476%2C11776%2C1459%2C1183%2C1666%2C1504%2C1455%2C1550&PropertyCodeValue=521%3A29233%2C523%3A46982%2C523%3A45114%2C7289%3A45294&bop=And&CompareItemList=147%7C20%2D231%2D304%5E20%2D231%2D304%2DTS%2C20%2D145%2D295%5E20%2D145%2D295%2DTS%2C20%2D145%2D236%5E20%2D145%2D236%2DS01

Ok ,

My other components are :

Heatsink : COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus 30$

Thermal paste : ARCTIC COOLING MX-3 = 15 $

GPU : ASUS GeForce GTX 470 (Fermi) = 350 $

Power supply : Antec TruePower New TP-750 750W Continuous Power ATX12V V2.3 = 115$

SSD : OCZ Agility 2 OCZSSD2-2AGT50G 2.5" 50GB SATA II MLC = 190 $

So , please help me to decide whether 860 or 930 ? and why ? is it deserve pushing my budget for it ?

Budget around 1500 $ excluding the case ,,,


 

banthracis

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SSD wise if you're willing to spend $200 get a X25-M G2 80 gb drive.

If you're willing to spend $250, get 2 X250-V 40 GB in Raid 0.

If you're willing to spend $300 get a Vertex LE 100gb. There's the Corsair Nova too. The Vertex is better performing, but the Corsair is ~20 GB larger, but has issues, see below.

If you're willing to spend $400 get 2 X25-M 80GB in Raid 0.


I don't like the Corsair Nova because it's random read/write is just horrendous, and that has the biggest impact on user experience. Really, ATM you should only be using sandforce or Intel controllers for a SSD.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/3681/oczs-vertex-2-special-sauce-sf1200-reviewed/6

Basically all your SSD choices there.

 

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Will , I play games but I'm not like those crazy gamers who's spends thousands of dollars in PC components ,

I have other uses like , HD movies , may be some times photos editing in photoshop , etc. ...

So , I'll consider bother the I7 930 & the RAM you mentioned ,,

Can you please tell me your opinion with the 1366 motherboard that I mentioned previously ?

Thank You ,,





Still OCZ Agility 2 50GB is much better than Intel X25-M especially in Sequential Access - Write time ,

See the comparisons

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submit=Property&N=2010150636&Manufactory=1157%2C1550&bop=And&CompareItemList=636%7C20%2D227%2D531%5E20%2D227%2D531%2DTS%2C20%2D167%2D016%5E20%2D167%2D016%2DTS

I think 50GB is enough to handle Windows 7 & few games , because I will have an additional WD black 1TB SATA III as well ,


The ATI is not an option for me , because in the future I may by Nvidia 3D kit ,

Thank you ,,
 
The board is a good one. I'd also look at the Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R (combo with the i7). It's another really good board that's cheaper.

I'll point out that 50 GB isn't that much space. SSDs like to have 20% free space, so after that and the OS, you've only got enough room for around 3 games and some additional programs. Not exactly a lot of space. You should aim for being able to have all of our frequently used programs/games on the SSD.
 

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Newegg isn't the place to look at Hardware reviews. Anandtech is ATM the best source for SSD reviews.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/3681/oczs-vertex-2-special-sauce-sf1200-reviewed/9

No doubt the Vertex 2's are fast, but at what cost?

Cost per USABLE GB chart. I don't think Vertex's 2 have the firmware update to their sandforce controllers released yet, so Vertex's 2 would come in at $4.28/GB. (vertex 2's are agility 2's with a slightly modified controller).

A 80 GB x25-M is now $195. That comes to $2.62 for each usable gigabyte.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/3690/the-impact-of-spare-area-on-sandforce-more-capacity-at-no-performance-loss/3

Performance wise, both of these get blown away when you take Raid 0 Intel drives into account.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/3618/intel-x25v-in-raid0-faster-than-x25m-g2-for-250/3
 

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Thank you again MadAdmiral ,

I'll consider the ASUS one , "I like ASUS personally"

So , I think you your opinion is logical

I'll need depending on my usage at least 80GB ..

MadAdmiral ,
Thank you again ,
I didn't get your point , do you mean that the Intel SSDs is economical with a satisfactory performance compared with OCZ ?

Do recommend using 2 40Gb of Intel SSD , in raid 0 ?

So , I get a 80Gb in total & much better performance than OCZ ?

Is installing raid 0 difficult ? (I never done it before !)

Does it cause any difficulties during operating system installation ?
 

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Yea, my point is that the Vertex 2's are very expensive for not much more performance, at least not in random read/write which is what matters.

Raid 0 Intel drives is currently pretty damn amazing performance for low cost. They're the only company who's drives would work in that setup though.

Raid 0 isn't hard at all.

Here's a link to a youtube video going through it, with a GA BIOS too!. You can google some more guides.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5L--ByVvXqw
 

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