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"the good news is the traditional PC desktop is becoming less important". I don't think that is true. But most of everything else he said I agree with.
 
phone market is largely android, which is linux

server market is certainly linux

desktop market is still windows. But in china a large portion of PCs are shipping with linux distros or w/o windows at all, where linux is being installed as the primary OS.

I think certain linux distros are looking to close that gap. Ubuntu is becoming easier to use and prettier to look at, all while maintaining the linux functionality.

go linux or go home.
 
[citation][nom]chrone[/nom]linux needs to improve its GUI a lot!-from ubuntu and fedora core 4 fans[/citation]

If you're still using FC4, I can see why you think Linux needs to improve its GUI. FC4 came out about five years ago. Current Linux distributions have pretty good UIs, good enough that MS ripped off several things from them for Windows 7. Look at the taskbar in Windows 7 for example. It looks like it came straight out of KDE.
 
well, if linux could run all my programs and games, i would jump the microsoft ship in a heartbeat, but i don't even se a shimmer of light in that tunnel. But sure, when the time comes, if it ever does, ill join.
 
Until they have the support of the Graphic Card makers that will put out a good driver for their own cards and not have the community "rely" on a "hacked" driver from a 3rd party, they won't make a dent on anything the end users sits down to every single day.

And until the game makers start releasing games that will run on Linux...but that won't happen until the above gets done first - they will still be in (at the most) a dual-boot set up because Games still run the best on Windows.
 
I liked Linux but this is a really immature attitude this guy has. Instead of phasing out desktops, I hope Linux because a much more compelling OS for desktop use. One great way to start is Steam.
 
[citation][nom]davewolfgang[/nom]Until they have the support of the Graphic Card makers that will put out a good driver for their own cards and not have the community "rely" on a "hacked" driver from a 3rd party, they won't make a dent on anything the end users sits down to every single day. And until the game makers start releasing games that will run on Linux...but that won't happen until the above gets done first - they will still be in (at the most) a dual-boot set up because Games still run the best on Windows.[/citation]

There's a simple solution to that: Use OpenCL/OpenGL. DX works much better on windows, and it needs emulation on linux. But OpenCL/GL work just as well on either OS
 
[citation][nom]kingnoobe[/nom]"the good news is the traditional PC desktop is becoming less important". I don't think that is true. But most of everything else he said I agree with.[/citation]

Well the sad truth is that it will be true shortly.
With the big companies (including MS) focussing on clouds and standardized/uninnovatively predictable systems it will be true. You don't need a desktop in 10 years. You just need an interface that can connect you to the services you need.

I dread the day, but I'm sure one day we service people won't have to just know windows to serve our customers. We'll have to know a million different versions of small compact, dumbed down, linux systems with each their own interface, no compatibility and no diagnostics facilities (in favor of speed and accessibility ofc).
 
We'll have to know a million different versions of small compact, dumbed down, linux systems with each their own interface, no compatibility and no diagnostics facilities (in favor of speed and accessibility ofc).

I slight exaggeration there, or is there actually a million, or do you mean a handfull maybe, also, your predicting the future is also at best your own opinion on what might happen possibly, why would they be dumbed down, linux systems with each their own interface, no compatibility and no diagnostics facilities (in favor of speed and accessibility ofc)...... they aren't now, and regression is not the best way to innovate.
 
[citation][nom]ipredict[/nom]We'll have to know a million different versions of small compact, dumbed down, linux systems with each their own interface, no compatibility and no diagnostics facilities (in favor of speed and accessibility ofc).I slight exaggeration there, or is there actually a million, or do you mean a handfull maybe, also, your predicting the future is also at best your own opinion on what might happen possibly, why would they be dumbed down, linux systems with each their own interface, no compatibility and no diagnostics facilities (in favor of speed and accessibility ofc)...... they aren't now, and regression is not the best way to innovate.[/citation]


They are now ! each version of android is different, ios is different, each windows phone os is different, each symbian version is different, each onchip linux is different. And dumbed down - well what can you customize in a modern non desktop system? sometimes you don't even have any themes to pick from except whatever the oem has decided for you.

Maybe we won't have millions of different systems, but we already have more than a hundred different linux distros and many versions of most of these. That adds up to thausands with little in common except the basic idea of all modern operating systems (boot loader, kernel etc).

 
[citation][nom]pelov[/nom]go linux or go home.[/citation]
I am home, and also loving Windows.

[citation][nom]neiroatopelcc[/nom]I dread the day, but I'm sure one day we service people won't have to just know windows to serve our customers. We'll have to know a million different versions of small compact, dumbed down, linux systems with each their own interface, no compatibility and no diagnostics facilities (in favor of speed and accessibility ofc).[/citation]
Yes, that is a concern too..
 
I was never a big linux user, but that changed when I started up a small online business. MS Server worked for a while, but it was far cheaper for me to go Linux when I wanted to grow -- and surprisingly, Ubuntu made the CLI setup pretty easy. My only complaint would be that dealing with file permissions is a nightmare at times.

I really don't think I'll ever use Linux though for my main desktop PC though, maybe as workstaion, but not on a system I want to play games and surf with. I don't like the GUI in linux still.
 
The terminal is in common, and in nearly every distro of linux. And if you're in the business of IT for a linux-operated company you'd be a fool not to know how to use it.

One major positive linux has is it's ability to customize; the "flavors" of linux. If you can install a program on opensuse or ubuntu, you can do it for debian or linuxmint. Though they may all look slightly different, the basics are pretty much the same throughout. Though they are different, it's not necessarily a bad thing. I'd rather have the option to D/L ubuntu 11.4 with gnome 3, new KDE or Unity rather than the typical "Here's you operating system. They're all the same. Now pay me $150."

Making drivers for linux isn't as hard as people make it seem. It's not the various distros that can create problems for software/hardware devs to make the drivers, but rather the ability of linux to utilize practically any hardware that creates the issues. If gaming transitioned to an open standard of programming, rather than a microsoft monopoly via DX, all of computing would be better off, not just your desktop and laptop but your phone, tablet an HTPC included.
 
[citation][nom]lradunovic77[/nom]I find Linux so user unfriendly[/citation]

I did before, too, but linux has gotten way friendlier in that respect over the past couple of years.

Recently my sis was having PC issues and I built her a new comp and slapped ubuntu 10.10 on it. She came from an apple background (which is arguably even more PC-noob than windows). She loves it and hasn't had any problems since I've set the machine up and installed the drivers and programs.

With a single click all of her programs and drivers, kernels are updated without the need to search for them over the net. It hasn't once crashed and she's had no trouble finding and using the programs she used on her mac.

A few years ago I would've agreed with you, but that landscape is quickly changing.
 
[citation][nom]lamorpa[/nom]"Linux Torvalds"??And all this time I thought his name was Linus... How is it possible I'm the first one to notice this?[/citation]

He must have changed it recently, no way it could be typeo on a tomshardware story
 
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