Linux Foundation Says Microsoft is a Puppy

[flachet]

[citation][nom]neiroatopelcc[/nom]Well the sad truth is that it will be true shortly.With the big companies (including MS) focussing on clouds and standardized/uninnovatively predictable systems it will be true. You don't need a desktop in 10 years. You just need an interface that can connect you to the services you need. I dread the day, but I'm sure one day we service people won't have to just know windows to serve our customers. We'll have to know a million different versions of small compact, dumbed down, linux systems with each their own interface, no compatibility and no diagnostics facilities (in favor of speed and accessibility ofc).[/citation]

I disagree, at least in regards to U.S. consumption. Cloud computing isn't going where some might think. With AT&T and several other broad band companies imposing bandwidth limits and laughable connection speeds, cloud computing for the home is a pipe dream.

When we see FTH in great numbers and bandwidth limits removed entirely, only then will we see the "Cloud" be a viable option. You can't even stream Netflix reliably in several places across the U.S. and Canada.

Cloud has its place, but it will not replace desktops for home use and you won't see businesses dump their IT departments to be at the mercy of our pathetic internet infrastructure. We looked at it where I work and decided that the risk was far to much, no matter what price we would get it at.

Both OS's do what the other can not, so most likely we are going to see a happy coexistence like we do with all the other OS's out there.

 

[stoogie]

If Linux can run Games / Benchmarking programs at Windows level, then i will use Linux, until then no.

 

[alidan]

[citation][nom]MU_Engineer[/nom]If you're still using FC4, I can see why you think Linux needs to improve its GUI. FC4 came out about five years ago. Current Linux distributions have pretty good UIs, good enough that MS ripped off several things from them for Windows 7. Look at the taskbar in Windows 7 for example. It looks like it came straight out of KDE.[/citation]

i despise the win 7 task bar.
[citation][nom]lradunovic77[/nom]I find Linux so user unfriendly[/citation]

its actually very user friendly, however not computer illiterate friendly.
if i have a problem on linux, there is a solution for it. on windows, it will almost ALWAYS be easier to just format and reinstall.

 

[jsc]

I have been seeing articles about the coming death of desktop computing for years. THis is, pretty much, just another one.

 

[thearm]

LOL poor Linux... They still can't make an OS right.

 

[ericburnby]

Microsoft is a puppy. And Linus Torvalds is one of the richest men in the world worth billions. And Bill Gates has to work for a living.

Oh, wait....,

 

[scotv453]

All they need is to get gaming going on linux, and bye bye windows. I really don't have a use for you now.

 

[scook9]

[citation][nom]thearm[/nom]LOL poor Linux... They still can't make an OS right.[/citation]
So what exactly is broken about linux? Besides for the obvious fact that it is different from Windows and there does not run windows programs? (which is no fault of linux but rather of the developers of said programs)

 

[phantomtrooper]

I still have not run into a single business that uses only Linux for their servers. I have scene business that run a couple machines, and I know there are business that run only Linux, but only ones I have personally scene run mostly Windows, or only Windows.

 

[oatmeal25]

I can't see how developers and publishers can afford to release product for linux. That whole market thinks everything should be free.

Why should anyone support the infinite flavours of linux with professional grade applications when there is no hope of earning a profit?

Linux is constantly striving to be more windows-like... well, I have windows and it already supports everything I need. I'm not going to abandon productivity to go through the inconvenience and learning curve of linux just to save $150 on an OEM license and hop on the "hate microsoft" bandwagon.

 

[lamorpa]

"I have scene business that run a couple machines"
At a 'scene' business do you make movies or produce plays? I've never seen a business like this that uses servers.

 

[Guest]

only game i play is quakelive so ubuntu on desktop and linuxmint on notebook ftw

 

[cookoy]

right MS is a puppy, a really big puppy. puppies are very friendly. Tux is a bit harder to find in your average home.

 

[Sicundercover]

I could give two craps about the OS wars.

Im a graphic designer, you give me an OS thats going to run the latest Adobe programs with 4 monitors without me having to spend weeks altering conf files for X Id be happy to go there.

Face it, X is the Achilles heel of Linux and Wine is always too little too late. Sure Wine can get the tired old hag programs up and running but for the ones of us who do Art for a living its just not up to speed.

As for OS X? Well yea sure Adobe works great on it but they are always forever behind on their proprietary drivers for GPUs and always end up 3 or 4 generations behind.

 

[pelov]

http://news.cnet.com/2008-1082_3-5065859.html

[citation][nom]oatmeal25[/nom]I can't see how developers and publishers can afford to release product for linux. That whole market thinks everything should be free. Why should anyone support the infinite flavours of linux with professional grade applications when there is no hope of earning a profit?Linux is constantly striving to be more windows-like... well, I have windows and it already supports everything I need. I'm not going to abandon productivity to go through the inconvenience and learning curve of linux just to save $150 on an OEM license and hop on the "hate microsoft" bandwagon.[/citation]

When the servers running your company's data and online market operate on linux it speaks for it's reliability and sturdiness. The general office worker uses MS office and IE or firefox. Unless you specifically need a program that only runs on windows (which is quite rare) you can do fine with linux on your employees desktops. The "learning curve" consists of opening up openoffice and perhaps saving the document as an MSoffice file rather than an openoffice file.

There was recently an article on that Indie game company that released the free-to-play game with an option to donate. Linux users donated far more than their other-OS counterparts. It's not that the community is cheap... throw that preconceived and completely wrong notion out the window. Linux users hail their distros and belittle windows/iOS because it offers things that the others don't and does it in open-source fashion.

Red hat has made millions and millions of dollars. Google has followed (arguably) the linux community's FOSS initiative and look what it's become...

This notion that linux doesn't or can't make money is an outright lie. What free and open source does is challenge other companies who want to charge for their products to be worth that $$ over their competitor who charges less or free.

And this idea that linux doesn't have programs? Have you been to the android store? Android is linux-based. Those are ALL linux programs

 

[Guest]

Microsoft is not sitting on their hands, they have also looked into the future and are aware of the market expansion into mobile connected computing platforms which will take a large market share away from the Desktop PC.

who needs a desktop to check e-mails, watch a few Youtube Movies, play with your holiday snaps, facebook your friends and listen to some music whilst shopping till your wallets empty!

i am looking forward to my Windows 8 ARM powered Tablet that will replace my laptop for daily average browsing, but will always retain a Windows Desktop for Work and production>

I have several Linux machines, and am able to find Niche uses for them such as proxy Cache Servers, Firewalls, File Servers ect, but I really do love Windows!

 

[megamanx00]

old news. This came out last week

 

[Specter0420]

[citation][nom]alidan[/nom]it will almost ALWAYS be easier to just format and reinstall.[/citation]
As someone who makes a living fixing every windows problem WITHOUT formating and reinstalling I can say... WOW, your a joke!

 

[poppasmurf]

Love it or not, they keep things cheap!

The answer is, like life, opportunity is there with very lil work you to can enjoy fruits of your harvest. You had to work at learning windows and apple at one time did you not?

A possible review for a techie down there in TH world?:

I wonder what the average cost of software on a Windows/Apple OS is just for giggles then If one you guys could see if it was possible to setup a linux OS box running similar apps. that does the same exact thing as either win/apple apps. do

A fool and his money are soon to depart!

The evil empire sense a force hehe

Go linux !

 

[djsting]

[citation][nom]oatmeal25[/nom]I can't see how developers and publishers can afford to release product for linux. That whole market thinks everything should be free. Why should anyone support the infinite flavours of linux with professional grade applications when there is no hope of earning a profit?Linux is constantly striving to be more windows-like... well, I have windows and it already supports everything I need. I'm not going to abandon productivity to go through the inconvenience and learning curve of linux just to save $150 on an OEM license and hop on the "hate microsoft" bandwagon.[/citation]

You're absolutely right, There's no way Linux could ever make money. That's why companies like Canonical went out of business years ago....oh wait.

 

[pelov]

Just as a slight correction, Red hat linux is worth billions, not millions.

 

[jryan388]

I love linux myself, but it will never be able to do squat in the desktop market if it doesn't cater a little more to the average joe. There are too many people that don't even know how to download and install an exe, let alone following the instructions to compile a program or building drivers and all that stuff. Terminal can be very intimidating. Also, the hardware support is less than ideal. For it to take 5+ hours to get my wireless card to work, and after having to do that several times, I finally gave up on wifi and used a wireless ethernet bridge. Of course, many people don't have that luxury and windows doesn't have that problem.

 

[pelov]

^^ that has less to do with linux and more to do with the people that make the drivers for linux.

This notion that if shit doesn't work on linux is linux's fault is completely nuts. Linux doesn't make your drivers. They don't make your hardware. It provides the operating system. You want that stuff to work on linux? start installing linux on all of your buddies' desktops and the developers will either start catering to the growing population or get fired.

The greatest hindrance linux has right now is the small share it's occupying in the desktop region of computing. If more people moved to linux you'd see those issues resolved very very quickly.

 

[nezzymighty]

"....a personal project for Linux Torvalds is now what really runs computing worldwide...."

Hey Marcus, you meant to write "Linus Torvalds"...

 

[hoofhearted]

I agree with all the comments on here about "games". If only OpenGL would have been the dominate API in the industry.

If Linux would take the game market, they would win. Office crap really doesn't matter as Open Office is quite suitable. Most computer geeks like games and if you get the geeks onboard, they are the ones who dictate,advise,fix,recommend,influence,etc all the computing needs of friends and family.

I was hoping/(am still) to see Android do this for the mobile market, but it seems that iPhone is winning this battle. Granted WP7 has nice capability, but is too proprietary.

And I always disable that stupid animated search puppy anyway