Looking to upgrade rig

[MrAnagaM]

Hey, so Im looking to upgrade my gtx 760 to a 1080.
And my a10 5800k to another CPU, I was thinking about i5 7600k but I was wondering if there are any other processors out there a bit cheaper and that may be able to perform well w the 1080 without bottlenecking it.
Any suggestions?

 

[androbourne]

We need to know your system specs... without know it we cant make any recommendations.

 

[okcnaline]

Ryzen 5 1400 offers 4 more threads and is unlocked. All for the price of $160, $60 less than the i5-7600K.
Ryzen 3 1200 offers identical performance for $90 less than the i5-7600K.

 

[Greasy Pommel]

Ryzen 5 1400 offers 4 more threads and is unlocked. All for the price of $160, $60 less than the i5-7600K.
Ryzen 3 1200 offers identical performance for $90 less than the i5-7600K.

The R3 1200 does NOT offer identical, or near identical performance as an i5 7600K especially in gaming.

 

[Greasy Pommel]

Hey, so Im looking to upgrade my gtx 760 to a 1080.
And my a10 5800k to another CPU, I was thinking about i5 7600k but I was wondering if there are any other processors out there a bit cheaper and that may be able to perform well w the 1080 without bottlenecking it.
Any suggestions?

I think it's better to save on the graphics card rather than the CPU because graphics cards lose value much more quickly. CPU's only get ~10% more powerful with each year. If you use your PC for gaming, an i5 7600k would be a great choice, although I would get an i7 7700k and a basic cooler like a Hyper 212 Evo or Cryorig H7 to make it last a bit longer.

If you still want to get a less expensive CPU, I'd suggest getting an R5 1400 or R5 1600, keeping the stock cooler, and also a B350 motherboard if you want to overclock for some extra performance. Ryzen overclocks really well. Just keep in mind that these won't be as good in games, but the R5 1600 is a great all-round CPU.

 

[okcnaline]

The R3 1200 does NOT offer identical, or near identical performance as an i5 7600K especially in gaming.

Defense?

These look quite identical to me. Ryzen 3 and 5 are the same architecture anyways; since Ryzen is unlocked and the i5 performs like a more well-binned Skylake chip, that means that if you OC the Ryzen 3 you'll match performance.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-ryzen-5-1600-cpu,5073-4.html

 

[Greasy Pommel]

The R3 1200 does NOT offer identical, or near identical performance as an i5 7600K especially in gaming.

Defense?

These look quite identical to me. Ryzen 3 and 5 are the same architecture anyways; since Ryzen is unlocked and the i5 performs like a more well-binned Skylake chip, that means that if you OC the Ryzen 3 you'll match performance.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-ryzen-5-1600-cpu,5073-4.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fITuIeLOUcQ
Here's a video from Hardware Unboxed that contains gaming benchmarks for the i5 7400, R5 1400, R3 1300X, R3 1200, and Pentium G4560. We can see that the R3 1200 falls far behind even the i5 7400 at stock speeds. You would need to step up to the R5 1400 to get similar performance to the i5.

Additionally, the 7600k in undoubtedly more powerful than the 7400. In this review, we can see that is quite possible to clock the i5 7600k to 5Ghz. http://www.anandtech.com/show/10969/the-intel-core-i57600k-91w-review-the-more-amenable-mainstream-performer/11
However, the R3 1200 cannot be clocked higher than 4Ghz. http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/amd-ryzen-3-1200-and-1300x-review,27.html

I couldn't find the best evidence of the overclocked 7600k being more powerful than an overclocked R3 1200, but it goes without saying that the CPU with higher IPC and a 25% higher clock speed. The R3 1200 simply cannot be clocked high enough to compete with the 7600k in gaming, nor any other task for that matter.

 

[okcnaline]

So you expect me to trust some random YouTuber more than a YouTuber with 4 million subscribers and the very same Tom's Hardware as the forum you're using?

Ryzen can be overclocked beyond 4 Ghz; XFR will be disabled meaning power efficiency will be worse. That's all.
https://www.techpowerup.com/230551/amds-x-nomenclature-on-upcoming-ryzen-chips-related-to-xfr-feature
I'm surprised you can't find that information.

Before either of us derail the thread even more, take it to the PMs.

 

[Greasy Pommel]

So you expect me to trust some random YouTuber more than a YouTuber with 4 million subscribers and the very same Tom's Hardware as the forum you're using?

Ryzen can be overclocked beyond 4 Ghz; XFR will be disabled meaning power efficiency will be worse. That's all.
https://www.techpowerup.com/230551/amds-x-nomenclature-on-upcoming-ryzen-chips-related-to-xfr-feature
I'm surprised you can't find that information.

Before either of us derail the thread even more, take it to the PMs.

Yes, I would expect you to trust real benchmarks of the chips from a YouTuber with 4 million subscribers over speculation from an anonymous Reddit user from before the release of Ryzen.