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Hello all, I build computers, and just built one for someone. I couldnt get
the internet to work, so I typed in a manual IP Address (since auto only
found 0.0.0.0). While it was loading, the computer reset, and never turned
back on. Then I switched Motherboards to a newer red one. and that
motherboard did nothing. In the red MOBO, the CD drives OR hard drive would
not turn on, until I unplugged the IDE ribbon. So being plugged in made it
not work. in the original MOBO, the drives turned on, but no monitor signal
still. Also, I took off the heat sink for a second to see if the processor
even ran, and it got warm fast. So I really donno what the prob is. I am
assuming the CPU if fried? please lemme know! Thanks so much!!

Dean
 

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As a regular builder of PCs you will be accustomed to reading the USer Manual
for the Mobo.

You will remeber that there are trouble shooting tipsd, relevant to the
particular Mobo.

Generally one would find that the 'beeps' will indicate if the CPU or PSU is
dead [or incorrectly installed].

Read yours again and I'm sure the problem wqill be quickly diagnosed.

As a tip, it is always better to start with minimum configurations: unplug
all IDE interface cables and FDD cables. Run with bare bones [One memory
Module, CPU and graphichs card] configuration and this will eliminate many
variables and assist to pin point your trouble spot.

"Deanski" wrote:

> Hello all, I build computers, and just built one for someone. I couldnt get
> the internet to work, so I typed in a manual IP Address (since auto only
> found 0.0.0.0). While it was loading, the computer reset, and never turned
> back on. Then I switched Motherboards to a newer red one. and that
> motherboard did nothing. In the red MOBO, the CD drives OR hard drive would
> not turn on, until I unplugged the IDE ribbon. So being plugged in made it
> not work. in the original MOBO, the drives turned on, but no monitor signal
> still. Also, I took off the heat sink for a second to see if the processor
> even ran, and it got warm fast. So I really donno what the prob is. I am
> assuming the CPU if fried? please lemme know! Thanks so much!!
>
> Dean
 
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Deanski

Don't bother with the red mobo.. green mobos work best.. I had a gold one
that worked ok but only for a couple of years.. green are definitely best,
and maybe some blue ones.. and when I meet up again with some of my fellow
service engineers, I will pass on the tip about removing the cpu
heatsink/fan assembly to see if the processor is working..

I will also pray to something greater that you are not building computers
for me.. do you have any idea of what you are doing?

I suggest that you dig out your Lego construction set and play with it until
such time as you learn to build a computer properly.. I would hate to think
that I was giving money to somebody who said that they could build me a
computer, and to have it done in the way that you have outlined..

Mike Hall


"Deanski" <Deanski@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Hello all, I build computers, and just built one for someone. I couldnt
> get
> the internet to work, so I typed in a manual IP Address (since auto only
> found 0.0.0.0). While it was loading, the computer reset, and never
> turned
> back on. Then I switched Motherboards to a newer red one. and that
> motherboard did nothing. In the red MOBO, the CD drives OR hard drive
> would
> not turn on, until I unplugged the IDE ribbon. So being plugged in made
> it
> not work. in the original MOBO, the drives turned on, but no monitor
> signal
> still. Also, I took off the heat sink for a second to see if the
> processor
> even ran, and it got warm fast. So I really donno what the prob is. I am
> assuming the CPU if fried? please lemme know! Thanks so much!!
>
> Dean
 
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"Mike Hall" <mike.hall.mail@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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| Deanski
|
| Don't bother with the red mobo.. green mobos work best.. I had a gold one
| that worked ok but only for a couple of years.. green are definitely best,
| and maybe some blue ones.. and when I meet up again with some of my fellow
| service engineers, I will pass on the tip about removing the cpu
| heatsink/fan assembly to see if the processor is working..
|
| I will also pray to something greater that you are not building computers
| for me.. do you have any idea of what you are doing?
|
| I suggest that you dig out your Lego construction set and play with it
until
| such time as you learn to build a computer properly.. I would hate to
think
| that I was giving money to somebody who said that they could build me a
| computer, and to have it done in the way that you have outlined..
|
| Mike Hall
|
|
| "Deanski" <Deanski@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
| news:F7D1A510-1525-42E7-A93D-81045B800930@microsoft.com...
| > Hello all, I build computers, and just built one for someone. I couldnt
| > get
| > the internet to work, so I typed in a manual IP Address (since auto only
| > found 0.0.0.0). While it was loading, the computer reset, and never
| > turned
| > back on. Then I switched Motherboards to a newer red one. and that
| > motherboard did nothing. In the red MOBO, the CD drives OR hard drive
| > would
| > not turn on, until I unplugged the IDE ribbon. So being plugged in made
| > it
| > not work. in the original MOBO, the drives turned on, but no monitor
| > signal
| > still. Also, I took off the heat sink for a second to see if the
| > processor
| > even ran, and it got warm fast. So I really donno what the prob is. I
am
| > assuming the CPU if fried? please lemme know! Thanks so much!!
| >
| > Dean
|

Another helpful troubleshooting tip: If you think the power supply might be
having problems, remove the enclosure from it and poke around with a metal
prod while it's plugged in. You can also take the output connectors and dip
them in water to see if there's any power getting out.
 
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> "Deanski" <Deanski@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:F7D1A510-1525-42E7-A93D-81045B800930@microsoft.com...
>> Hello all, I build computers, and just built one for someone. I couldnt
>> get the internet to work, so I typed in a manual IP Address (since auto
>> only
>> found 0.0.0.0). While it was loading, the computer reset, and never
>> turned back on. Then I switched Motherboards to a newer red one. and
>> that >> motherboard did nothing. In the red MOBO, the CD drives OR hard
>> drive would not turn on, until I unplugged the IDE ribbon. So being
>> plugged in made it work.
>> in the original MOBO, the drives turned on, but no monitor signal still.
>> Also, I took off the heat sink for a second to see if the processor even
>> ran, and it got warm fast. So I really donno what the prob is. I am
>> assuming the CPU if fried? please lemme know! Thanks so much!!
>>
>> Dean


"Mike Hall" <mike.hall.mail@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> Deanski
>
> Don't bother with the red mobo.. green mobos work best.. I had a gold one
> that worked ok but only for a couple of years.. green are definitely best,
> and maybe some blue ones.. and when I meet up again with some of my fellow
> > service engineers, I will pass on the tip about removing the cpu
> heatsink/fan assembly to see if the processor is working..
>
> I will also pray to something greater that you are not building computers
> for me.. do you have any idea of what you are doing?
>
> I suggest that you dig out your Lego construction set and play with it
> until such time as you learn to build a computer properly.. I would hate
> to think that I was giving money to somebody who said that they could
> build me a computer, and to have it done in the way that you have
> outlined..
>
> Mike Hall


Mike:
I'm surprised you didn't correctly diagnose the OP's problem. It's clear
that he didn't use the polka-dot motherboard when his problem arose.
Everyone (well, nearly everyone) knows that when "push comes to shove", the
computer builder must turn to a polka-dot motherboard. Forgive me if I take
issue with your statement that "green mobos work best". I once used a green
motherboard and had nothing but trouble with it. Upon bootup it would spit
out terrible obscenities at me, questioning my competence as a computer
builder. Luckily the kids weren't around. So I never went back to that one!

And another thing. I think you were too harsh on the OP questioning his
technique of removing the heatsink to determine "if the processor ever ran".
While it is true that this is not a time-tested methodology for determining
a CPU's viability, it's these kinds of experiments that broaden our
knowledge of computer technology. Personally, my hat's off to the OP for his
gutsy call. And besides, I understand that Newegg is having a pre-Christmas
sale of processors this coming week. No doubt our OP is a potential
customer.

Merry Christmas to you Mike (and to Deanski).
Art
 
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Raymond,
Just a tip that those sentenced to the Death Penalty [and maybe those
severely frightened by flying sparks] get to appeal endlessly.
Gene K
Raymond J. Johnson Jr. wrote:
> "Mike Hall" <mike.hall.mail@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:OQR1qor3EHA.404@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> | Deanski
> |
> | Don't bother with the red mobo.. green mobos work best.. I had a gold one
> | that worked ok but only for a couple of years.. green are definitely best,
> | and maybe some blue ones.. and when I meet up again with some of my fellow
> | service engineers, I will pass on the tip about removing the cpu
> | heatsink/fan assembly to see if the processor is working..
> |
> | I will also pray to something greater that you are not building computers
> | for me.. do you have any idea of what you are doing?
> |
> | I suggest that you dig out your Lego construction set and play with it
> until
> | such time as you learn to build a computer properly.. I would hate to
> think
> | that I was giving money to somebody who said that they could build me a
> | computer, and to have it done in the way that you have outlined..
> |
> | Mike Hall
> |
> |
> | "Deanski" <Deanski@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> | news:F7D1A510-1525-42E7-A93D-81045B800930@microsoft.com...
> | > Hello all, I build computers, and just built one for someone. I couldnt
> | > get
> | > the internet to work, so I typed in a manual IP Address (since auto only
> | > found 0.0.0.0). While it was loading, the computer reset, and never
> | > turned
> | > back on. Then I switched Motherboards to a newer red one. and that
> | > motherboard did nothing. In the red MOBO, the CD drives OR hard drive
> | > would
> | > not turn on, until I unplugged the IDE ribbon. So being plugged in made
> | > it
> | > not work. in the original MOBO, the drives turned on, but no monitor
> | > signal
> | > still. Also, I took off the heat sink for a second to see if the
> | > processor
> | > even ran, and it got warm fast. So I really donno what the prob is. I
> am
> | > assuming the CPU if fried? please lemme know! Thanks so much!!
> | >
> | > Dean
> |
>
> Another helpful troubleshooting tip: If you think the power supply might be
> having problems, remove the enclosure from it and poke around with a metal
> prod while it's plugged in. You can also take the output connectors and dip
> them in water to see if there's any power getting out.
>
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On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 21:09:01 -0800, "Deanski"
<Deanski@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>Hello all, I build computers, and just built one for someone. I couldnt get
>the internet to work

I have trouble getting that lazy internet to work too. It never
listens to a thing I say.

> so I typed in a manual IP Address (since auto only
>found 0.0.0.0). While it was loading, the computer reset, and never turned
>back on.

If the OP was using a dynamic IP address (which most home users do)
then setting a manual IP address will almost certainly stop the
internet connection dead in it's tracks. Nice move. This also has
NOTHING to do with the computer not turning back on.

> Then I switched Motherboards to a newer red one. and that
>motherboard did nothing.

WTF? What's a "red" motherboard?

> In the red MOBO, the CD drives OR hard drive would
>not turn on, until I unplugged the IDE ribbon. So being plugged in made it
>not work. in the original MOBO, the drives turned on, but no monitor signal
>still.

Red, green, now you have totally confused me.

> Also, I took off the heat sink for a second to see if the processor
>even ran, and it got warm fast.

I bet it did. Did you fry an egg on it to test it?

> So I really donno what the prob is. I am
>assuming the CPU if fried? please lemme know! Thanks so much!!

If it wasn't fried, when you took the heat sink off and then ran the
processor, even for a few seconds, it is now. Congratulations on a
job well done!

As Dilbert once said, there is nothing more dangerous than a
resourceful idiot. Please retire, immediately, from building
computers. You obviously have no idea what you are doing.
 
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That's really going just too far.. polkadot mobos are way too gurly and
require that the XP theme is used which means endless hours of looking at an
empty field, albeit a nice sunny view, with no hope of the icons ever
appearing unless you install the memory modules 'wrong way around' using
excessive force if need be..

Green mobos ROCK.. and sometimes sizzle like the red ones if you take the
heatsink off to see if anything is happening, but look at it this way.. what
a fantastic way to produce popcorn in 'real time', as you type, and with any
old drivers installed regardless if they are right for the OS or not..

It is time for manuals to be rewritten.. better still, save on rewriting and
just delete all the text from the pages (remembering to take off the read
only attribute and setting the subnet mask to 255.255.255.255 for the hell
of it).. no more 'Dummies' guides, because they are old hat.. how about a
new range of manuals.. 'XP for those too stupid or busy to learn'.. 'Useful
URLs for the Uninquisitive'.. 'How to build a computer using only red
parts'..

Nursey has just reminded me that it is medication time.. cya, guys.. :)


"Art" <noonehere@longone.net> wrote in message
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>> "Deanski" <Deanski@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:F7D1A510-1525-42E7-A93D-81045B800930@microsoft.com...
>>> Hello all, I build computers, and just built one for someone. I couldnt
>>> get the internet to work, so I typed in a manual IP Address (since auto
>>> only
>>> found 0.0.0.0). While it was loading, the computer reset, and never
>>> turned back on. Then I switched Motherboards to a newer red one. and
>>> that >> motherboard did nothing. In the red MOBO, the CD drives OR hard
>>> drive would not turn on, until I unplugged the IDE ribbon. So being
>>> plugged in made it work.
>>> in the original MOBO, the drives turned on, but no monitor signal
>>> still. Also, I took off the heat sink for a second to see if the
>>> processor even ran, and it got warm fast. So I really donno what the
>>> prob is. I am assuming the CPU if fried? please lemme know! Thanks so
>>> much!!
>>>
>>> Dean
>
>
> "Mike Hall" <mike.hall.mail@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:OQR1qor3EHA.404@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>> Deanski
>>
>> Don't bother with the red mobo.. green mobos work best.. I had a gold one
>> that worked ok but only for a couple of years.. green are definitely
>> best, and maybe some blue ones.. and when I meet up again with some of my
>> fellow > service engineers, I will pass on the tip about removing the cpu
>> heatsink/fan assembly to see if the processor is working..
>>
>> I will also pray to something greater that you are not building computers
>> for me.. do you have any idea of what you are doing?
>>
>> I suggest that you dig out your Lego construction set and play with it
>> until such time as you learn to build a computer properly.. I would hate
>> to think that I was giving money to somebody who said that they could
>> build me a computer, and to have it done in the way that you have
>> outlined..
>>
>> Mike Hall
>
>
> Mike:
> I'm surprised you didn't correctly diagnose the OP's problem. It's clear
> that he didn't use the polka-dot motherboard when his problem arose.
> Everyone (well, nearly everyone) knows that when "push comes to shove",
> the computer builder must turn to a polka-dot motherboard. Forgive me if I
> take issue with your statement that "green mobos work best". I once used a
> green motherboard and had nothing but trouble with it. Upon bootup it
> would spit out terrible obscenities at me, questioning my competence as a
> computer builder. Luckily the kids weren't around. So I never went back to
> that one!
>
> And another thing. I think you were too harsh on the OP questioning his
> technique of removing the heatsink to determine "if the processor ever
> ran". While it is true that this is not a time-tested methodology for
> determining a CPU's viability, it's these kinds of experiments that
> broaden our knowledge of computer technology. Personally, my hat's off to
> the OP for his gutsy call. And besides, I understand that Newegg is having
> a pre-Christmas sale of processors this coming week. No doubt our OP is a
> potential customer.
>
> Merry Christmas to you Mike (and to Deanski).
> Art
>