Microsoft: Mac OS X Did NOT Inspire Windows 7

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These arguments amuse me. People seem to forget Mac pre-OSX. At the time, with the Windows 3 days, Microsoft introduced the concept of minimizing and had proper maximization/restore functions on windows. Mac had rollup and some half broken max/restore thing. At the time, whenever I used Macs (and I still loved them at the time) I found myself looking for minimize. Window management then was horrible. But when OSX came out with the doc, it clearly borrowed ideas from Win 95. The minimize, max/restore, close buttons matched the Windows equivalents, and you could minimize to the dock, finally! For us used to Windows, this was a godsend, finally they implemented this too! It made Macs more pleasant to use. Composite desktops did come first in Linux/Mac, but like the GUI, I consider that an eventual technological advancement anyway, so claiming anyone owns that is silly.
 
[citation][nom]Antilycus[/nom]Sorry, but MS has ALWAYS copied Apple...and they always will. They dont innovate, they duplicate. Though both are becoming completely unstable[/citation]

Yeah.. like they Copied SQL Server From Apple, Exchange, IIS, IE, everything was created by Apple and everyone else just copies. Well here is my question, how come apple control no market other than the MP3 player and that is debatable. If they are the only ones with ideas, then they should rule the electronic world. They don't, sadly they only rule self deluded snobs who cannot understand how a computer works so Apple protects them from it. Please....
 
[citation][nom]pepperman[/nom]MICROFT Office anybody? HALO franchise? Need I go on?[/citation]

MS purchased Bungie software while they were developing Halo. (And canceled the PC version making it exclusively for XBox but that's another story) MS mostly just funds Bungie, so technically Halo is not their original franchise.

[citation][nom]Yoder54[/nom]Actually, MS merely jumped on the bandwagon once they saw what VisiCalc, Wordstar, and dBase were doing in office apps. Halo was designed by Bungie in 1991, and purchased by MS in 2000.The one thing that we can give MS full credit for developing are their development suites like C# and Visual Basic.[/citation]

Actually I believe Borland had the first visual versions of the programming languages.

Perhaps Microsoft's only real talent then is marketing. Their apps have taken over all over where all these others they supposedly stole from have failed.
 
[citation][nom]beayn[/nom]MS purchased Bungie software while they were developing Halo. (And canceled the PC version making it exclusively for XBox but that's another story) MS mostly just funds Bungie, so technically Halo is not their original franchise.Actually I believe Borland had the first visual versions of the programming languages.Perhaps Microsoft's only real talent then is marketing. Their apps have taken over all over where all these others they supposedly stole from have failed.[/citation]
If you haven't noticed, Microsoft fails epicly at marketing. Apple has them beat in that regard. My firm belief of why Microsoft is so successful, though, is twofold: excellent business management and catering like mad to developers. If you can get a massive developer base for your platform, it will succeed. I've coded on Macs, Windows, DOS, and Linux. By FAR, on DOS and especially Windows, the developer tools, like Visual Studio, and library support, has been phenomenal. It's so easy to develop on Windows compared to Linux that it actually feels like I'm cheating.
 
[citation][nom]gmcboot[/nom]Yeah.. like they Copied SQL Server From Apple, Exchange, IIS, IE, everything was created by Apple and everyone else just copies. Well here is my question, how come apple control no market other than the MP3 player and that is debatable. If they are the only ones with ideas, then they should rule the electronic world. They don't, sadly they only rule self deluded snobs who cannot understand how a computer works so Apple protects them from it. Please....[/citation]

Agree. LOL, maybe DOS also.
 
Well...AHEM. Bungie was the developer of MARATHON, which was a FPS game on the MAC. I don't believe MARATHON ever made it to the PC during those years. But anyway, oh...what irony.

 
My friends Mac Which is runing Snow Leopard its also ne of the new macbook pros keeps crashing well me runing windows 7 on a year old laptop and no issues hes reinstalled it and everything he even took it to an apple store and they said it was fine 😀 windows 7 FTW hes selling it lol
 
There is no doubt that MAC OS had something to do with Vista and 7, especially in regard to the UI. However, they really don't have much in common when it really comes down to it, hence I don't see what the big deal is.
 
Even if they say it, they took after it trying to be as awesome as theirs is. No matter what it is, the lower is inspired to be better or as good as the higher one.
 
X inspired Y. You guys have some pretty bold claims. Who cares who inspired whom. The point is that each year we are getting much better technology. It doesn't matter if you are a Apple, Linux, Sun, or Windows fanboy. A true tech enthusiast would be able to spill accurate knowledge on all things instead of just claiming "X inspired Y."
 
[citation][nom]Antilycus[/nom]Sorry, but MS has ALWAYS copied Apple...and they always will. They dont innovate, they duplicate. Though both are becoming completely unstable[/citation]

Fire in the hole!
 
[citation][nom]beayn[/nom]
Actually I believe Borland had the first visual versions of the programming languages.Perhaps Microsoft's only real talent then is marketing. Their apps have taken over all over where all these others they supposedly stole from have failed.[/citation]

Although Borland compliers Turbo Pascal for Windows, Turbo C++, and Borland C++ were able to create Windows applications via their OWL libraries to call them "Visual" in the sense we use it now is a mistake. In the Visual programming Borland vs. MS debate MS wins here with Visual Basic. I remember trying to learn Windows 3.x programming in Borland C++. It wasn't the happy drag, drop, and handle object events we come to expect with MS's Visual tools.
 
[citation][nom]sidran32[/nom]If you haven't noticed, Microsoft fails epicly at marketing. Apple has them beat in that regard. My firm belief of why Microsoft is so successful, though, is twofold: excellent business management and catering like mad to developers. If you can get a massive developer base for your platform, it will succeed. I've coded on Macs, Windows, DOS, and Linux. By FAR, on DOS and especially Windows, the developer tools, like Visual Studio, and library support, has been phenomenal. It's so easy to develop on Windows compared to Linux that it actually feels like I'm cheating.[/citation]

The recent Apple ad campaign may have been successful but I think MS fixed that bad rep with Win7. Many are eager to get it, while nobody I know was eager to get Vista.
 
It being blatantly obvious doesn't really matter; acknowledging that the company knowingly copied the "look and feel" is an entirely different thing legally.

I think they won that lawsuit, but wouldn't really want to revisit it.
 
Speaking of marketshare has anyone seen the lastest Jubak article on msn money? It's pretty interesting in that Apple had plenty of time to gain more marketshare on Windows and epically failed to do so during the Vista years. Overpriced computers in the "premium" market hurt their chance to come out with a greater marketshare. However what little they gained in marketshare Microsoft will take back in due time.

As for Windows 7 influenced by Apple, yes and no but the opposite can be said the same way.
 
[citation][nom]beayn[/nom]MS purchased Bungie software while they were developing Halo. (And canceled the PC version making it exclusively for XBox but that's another story) MS mostly just funds Bungie, so technically Halo is not their original franchise.
Actually I believe Borland had the first visual versions of the programming languages.Perhaps Microsoft's only real talent then is marketing. Their apps have taken over all over where all these others they supposedly stole from have failed.[/citation]

ACTUALLY, Halo was originally developed as a Mac game. Microsoft saw the potential of it and then purhased Bungie (For anyone who's played it was the Silent Cartographer was the level that was first created, and the game wasn't supposed to be a FPS to start out).
 
[citation][nom]sidran32[/nom]If you haven't noticed, Microsoft fails epicly at marketing. Apple has them beat in that regard. My firm belief of why Microsoft is so successful, though, is twofold: excellent business management and catering like mad to developers. If you can get a massive developer base for your platform, it will succeed. I've coded on Macs, Windows, DOS, and Linux. By FAR, on DOS and especially Windows, the developer tools, like Visual Studio, and library support, has been phenomenal. It's so easy to develop on Windows compared to Linux that it actually feels like I'm cheating.[/citation]

If you call the I'm a Mac I'm a PC ads with the baby music in the background good marketing then that's sad. I doubt it made many people switch and really it ownly appealed to their fanbase. Meanwhile people looked at the price of one of their systems and turned around and bought a PC hence the laptop hunters comercial.
 
Gee... I thought they were both inspired by GNU/Linux/Compiz/Gnome/KDE... OSX was more than "inspired" by it 😉
 
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