Microsoft Reveals Windows 10 Details: Universal Apps, Cortana On All Platforms, Xbox Integration, More

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Do you really think they ignore security? They don't go announcing all the security fixes they are going to make because they don't like to exploit previous vulnerabilities.
 


Free is good.
 
Oh wow, look at all the nerds afraid of the government busting their porn collections. If you're online for 2 minutes a week or 70+ hours, it's all the same, if the government wants you they're going to get you. It only takes seconds so give up the paranoia.

I'm not going to handcuff my computing experience worrying about my "sensitive data" because I have none.
 


+1 on that!!!
 
When Microsoft claims everything will be more natural, for it means everything will be hidden and doing something will take more clicks and etcetera
 
I can do without this. Guess its win7 until 2020. Start menu can be made to look like win8? LOL. Clearly they don't understand the problem here. I don't want anything to look like win8/8.1 (I want them both dead & buried).

"Microsoft has shifted focus of Windows 10 from merely running independently on the PC to working across a multitude of platforms including 2-in-1s, tablets, and smartphones. "

Changed focus from making win10 desktop aimed...Again, Microsoft doesn't seem to understand why I hated 8 (for that matter win7 also). Pretty means nothing to me. Make me faster or go fly a kite. If I can't get stuff done faster what is the point in learning something new (for fun? blah)? If you slow me down there IS NO POINT, in buying your new OS. If there is a SINGLE situation that takes even a SINGLE click more than win7 you've failed. Free won't even be cheap enough to get me to move...ROFL. Nearly free on win8/8.1 didn't get me to move either. Make me faster or forget it (either by making the OS faster, or lowering the clicks I need to get something done, which I guess makes ME faster...LOL). Quit hiding things behind more clicks. I'm looking forward to the next DESKTOP OS that won't work with anything else seamlessly. LOL. That will probably be a very fast OS that just works. I'll buy an app to do something seamlessly (and better than any integrated MS crap way to do it, whatever it is).

I want a fast, light OS, that is GEARED for one thing. My desktop. The second you try to blur the lines, or make one size fits all you've completely missed the point of the power users and why they buy windows (previously that is). Heck at this point I'd be happy with having them add DX12 and add a few codecs/IT stuff to WinXP and call it a day.

MS's vision is becoming more like govt every day. It's not about what helps us get our work done at this point (or about helping your life), its about THEIR idea of how you should do your work (or in govt terms, how you should RUN your life or spend your money). MS needs to try to get OUT OF MY WAY, so I can get some work done (same as the govt these days).
 
^Entirely agreeable. And, that's not calling Windows 10 "crap" (I've not seen it), but is calling MS out for trying to impose their vision on people rather than giving people what they want. Now that much I have seen in their Office suite. Windows Vista and Windows 8 both flopped (especially in the corporate world) because Microsoft forgot that very important concept.

Also, I'm not sure (it may be a matter of punctuation), but when I read it, the "free" aspect of Windows 10 looked like it applied to phones, but maybe not PCs: "Microsoft really wants Windows 10 to succeed, and it hopes to do so in part by making it a free upgrade for Windows 7, 8, and 8.1 Phone users during Windows 10's first year. "
 
I still hate the 8 ish feel to it , I still don't like where it is going ,I want my os to be out of my way , I would like it to be more stable , more compatible , for me I'd like just a better engine inside with xp/7 theme on it , it;s more productive , .. oh well ... if they keep this up I'll skip this like I did 8 .
 
Here's a thought re the "Free upgrade". Indeed, it does smell of desparation, but...

Let's assume Microsoft goes the subscription route.

I upgrade within 12 months. Then after the 12 month period Micrsoft brings in subscription priving.

Does that apply ONLY to NEW purchases, or do they think they can start charging everyone who has already upgraded a monthly fee?

AND... If I had already upgraded, I can no longer downgrade (because my Windows 7 key s no longer valid)? So might people be trapped into subscriptions? If so the only way out may be to go Non-Microsoft.

So they might calculate that a percentage of people will mutiny and jump ship, but the number of people who do nothing about being scammed in this way, plus new subscriptions will generate more income so they say "Viable option"?

Microsoft's refusual to disclose pricing plans is really scaring me away from this OS..
 
You know, for those of you saying "Why can't MS just GIVE PEOPLE WHAT THEY WANT!!?!?!," when what you want is Windows 7, perhaps you should realize you've already got it?

I loved Windows 8, and I'm actually disturbed that Windows 10 is moving away from some of the design changes they made - and unless they have some compelling new features, I quite frankly don't want to lose Metro on my Iconia W700 and the Surface Pro I'll be getting within a year. Consider for a second that maybe, just maybe, not every OS has to cater to just what you want, and some of us actually really like the hybrid touch/metro approach. Shocking, I know, that the computing world doesn't revolve around whatever it is you want...
 
If W10 goes cloud-based, I'll stick with 8.1. After all, an OS is just a means to an end. Hope MS will keep supporting 8.1!
 
Windows 7 SP2, some Kernel Improvements and DX12 would make all people switch to it. Everything else won't fly is a bottom line. It is really hard to make someone to be happy with less when you previously gave them something awesome. Windows 7 is that awesome, inside out. Windows 7 UI is one of the most beautiful OS every created and at the same time so productive and practical. Its UI is pixel perfect.
 
I've been using Windows 10 preview, and I like it. There is one BIG, BIG DEAL that I do not think MS appreciates: privacy. Snowden showed how the US & Britain are snooping; non-government entities are doing the same. I submit that there are many (as in millions or billions) of people that do not want anyone sifting through their files. (It's not because they are devious; it's because they happen to think their stuff is their stuff, or their corporation's trade secrets are meant to stay secret, and it's nobody else's business.) I appreciate MS's dilemma--they can tell that there's a huge potential for making money in the "Cloud," but people will flat out refuse to play.
 
Funny thing is i remember people complaining like this about W8. Meanwhile there's still quite a few XP users connected to the internet and W7 will be twice as hard to bring down. Wonder if MS will bother to campaign the death of W7. Hopefully i will be on Linux by then.
 
Every post that has the slightest pro comment about windows gets down voted ... but truth be told windows is not the problem for privacy issues, it the bloody US government that forces every company to share them everything. I don`t see any US citizen complaining about this.
 
Nobody did got there, it was an example what`s not to talk about on this forum, and i think is just ok not to talk about that. But in the past years people are going crazy about privacy. Sadly privacy means less and less by the day. Google for instance knows about everything i do while i`m online ... and yet i don`t see people going crazy about that with google, but they do when it comes to Windows being cloud based. From the technical preview that i`ve used on my laptop i have seen in the settings the possibility to choose what to be cloud based ... so it your choice what to share and what not to.
 
I do not use Chrome, and do not search with Google, precisely over privacy concerns. It is indeed something I don't like about the Vapor. Regardless of what a privacy policy says today, sooner or later the right amount of money will change hands, the policy will change, and anything you've posted or shared, anywhere, will become available to be sifted by advertisers and parasites. No thanks.
 


Seeing the direction where the world is going, i can already relate to those Hollywood movies with distopian society ... kinda sad.
 
Oh wow, look at all the nerds afraid of the government busting their porn collections. If you're online for 2 minutes a week or 70+ hours, it's all the same, if the government wants you they're going to get you. It only takes seconds so give up the paranoia.

I'm not going to handcuff my computing experience worrying about my "sensitive data" because I have none.
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I think it's hilarious that you use the term "nerds" in a negative way. Considering that it's cool to be a nerd nowadays. I'm a nerd (I prefer the term geek though) and proud of it. Honestly though most if not all people on these forums are "nerds", and your here...............
 
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