Mixing and Separation

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Hello everyone,
I have a question regarding separation in mixes. I
was wondering how many of you appraoch using sends for reverbs in your
board...The reason I ask is I have a Mackie 8bus and I have the sends set so
that it sends out in mono and comes back on the right and left (reverb). I
was wondering if you prefer to have complete stereo reverb? I feel with my
setup I lose separation when I apply any reverb. it blurs the stereo image.
I don't use a lot of reverb. I usually use some on the snare and I'm
wondering if I would be better off using the insert on the snare channel.
What is the normal procedure?
I did a mix with a client last night and we used
very little reverb. It was the best mix I've done yet. Everything had it's
place. I would like to have the option of getting more of a wet mix if need
be and I'm tying to figure out how as another client I have likes reverb.
Likes to put quite a bit on the snare but boy does it clutter the mix (the
music is a very full arrangement). Any tips or stories to share?
Thanks!!
--litepipe

 

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litepipe wrote:

> Hello everyone,
> I have a question regarding separation in mixes. I
> was wondering how many of you appraoch using sends for reverbs in your
> board...The reason I ask is I have a Mackie 8bus and I have the sends set so
> that it sends out in mono and comes back on the right and left (reverb). I
> was wondering if you prefer to have complete stereo reverb? I feel with my
> setup I lose separation when I apply any reverb. it blurs the stereo image.
> I don't use a lot of reverb. I usually use some on the snare and I'm
> wondering if I would be better off using the insert on the snare channel.
> What is the normal procedure?
> I did a mix with a client last night and we used
> very little reverb. It was the best mix I've done yet. Everything had it's
> place. I would like to have the option of getting more of a wet mix if need
> be and I'm tying to figure out how as another client I have likes reverb.
> Likes to put quite a bit on the snare but boy does it clutter the mix (the
> music is a very full arrangement). Any tips or stories to share?


Nothing. You've found that the appropriate use of reverb also includes
when not to use it. I've done whole CDs with nary a trace, even one
that included a pitch shifter tracking a fourth below the vocal.

 

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litepipe wrote:
> Hello everyone,
> I have a question regarding separation in
mixes. I
> was wondering how many of you appraoch using sends for reverbs in
your
> board...The reason I ask is I have a Mackie 8bus and I have the sends
set so
> that it sends out in mono and comes back on the right and left
(reverb). I
> was wondering if you prefer to have complete stereo reverb? I feel
with my
> setup I lose separation when I apply any reverb. it blurs the stereo
image.
> I don't use a lot of reverb. I usually use some on the snare and I'm
> wondering if I would be better off using the insert on the snare
channel.
> What is the normal procedure?
> I did a mix with a client last night and we
used
> very little reverb. It was the best mix I've done yet. Everything had
it's
> place. I would like to have the option of getting more of a wet mix
if need
> be and I'm tying to figure out how as another client I have likes
reverb.
> Likes to put quite a bit on the snare but boy does it clutter the mix
(the
> music is a very full arrangement). Any tips or stories to share?
> Thanks!!
> --litepipe

I usually set up one dual mono reverb and one dual mono delay and then
the rest are set up the wya you've described.

I don't think your mono send to stereo returns are affecting the
pverall stero image as much as you think and I'm pretty sure most
people run their effects that way.

Try some longer predelays. Maybe EQ out some highs or lows too.

You migh be able to sorten the decay times with a longer predelay.

Also, short delays can sometimes be used in place of reverbs.