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Archived from groups: rec.games.frp.super-heroes (More info?)

I had a non-flying character in a Champions
game I was running take the hard way down from
Earth orbit some years ago. He was an ultra-tech
robot, with full life support and about 30 points
each of fully resistant physical and energy
defense, not to mention some extra Body points.
He was probably the only character I've ever
had in one of my campaigns who I think could
have survived this...his quote, as he watched
the Earth get closer, "This is gonna hurt!"

I don't recall how many dice I threw at him - I
think it was 30d6 of normal physical for the
terminal velocity impact at the end, plus some
multiple number of 8d6 energy killing attacks
(fire) for the re-entry heat. A fisherman
pulled a very charred but still functional
robot out of the Sea of Japan at the beginning
of the next play session.

My question for the group: is there an
"official" ruling for how much damage re-entry
should do to a character? Perhaps in one
of the Hero sci-fi supplements?

Walt Smith
Firelock on DALNet
 
Archived from groups: rec.games.frp.super-heroes (More info?)

firelock_ny@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> My question for the group: is there an
> "official" ruling for how much damage re-entry
> should do to a character? Perhaps in one
> of the Hero sci-fi supplements?
>

According to Star Hero, atmospheric re-entry does a flat 5 BODY per Phase.

--
Michael Sears armitage@mhcable.com
"No turning back where the end is in sight.
There's a job to be done, a fight to be won."
 
Archived from groups: rec.games.frp.super-heroes (More info?)

Michael Sears wrote:
> firelock_ny@hotmail.com wrote:
> >
> > My question for the group: is there an
> > "official" ruling for how much damage re-entry
> > should do to a character? Perhaps in one
> > of the Hero sci-fi supplements?
> >
>
> According to Star Hero, atmospheric re-entry does a flat 5 BODY per
Phase.

"Flat" as in, "no matter what defenses are available"?
And did they give a rule of thumb on how many phases
it would take?

Walt Smith
Firelock on DALNet
 
Archived from groups: rec.games.frp.super-heroes (More info?)

On 9 Feb 2005 19:54:51 -0800, firelock_ny@hotmail.com wrote:

>Michael Sears wrote:
>> firelock_ny@hotmail.com wrote:
>> >
>> > My question for the group: is there an
>> > "official" ruling for how much damage re-entry
>> > should do to a character? Perhaps in one
>> > of the Hero sci-fi supplements?
>> >
>>
>> According to Star Hero, atmospheric re-entry does a flat 5 BODY per
>Phase.
>
>"Flat" as in, "no matter what defenses are available"?

Obviously not, given that ships manage to achieve re-entry.
 
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David Johnston wrote:

> On 9 Feb 2005 19:54:51 -0800, firelock_ny@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>>Michael Sears wrote:
>>
>>>firelock_ny@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>>My question for the group: is there an
>>>>"official" ruling for how much damage re-entry
>>>>should do to a character? Perhaps in one
>>>>of the Hero sci-fi supplements?
>>>
>>>According to Star Hero, atmospheric re-entry does a flat 5 BODY per
>>
>>Phase.
>>
>>"Flat" as in, "no matter what defenses are available"?
>
> Obviously not, given that ships manage to achieve re-entry.

In game, they have have lots of BODY.
In real life, they require extensive repair afterwords.

In some sci-fi, neither would be so...
 
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David Johnston wrote:
> On 9 Feb 2005 19:54:51 -0800, firelock_ny@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> >Michael Sears wrote:
> >> According to Star Hero, atmospheric re-entry does a flat 5 BODY
per
> >Phase.
> >
> >"Flat" as in, "no matter what defenses are available"?
>
> Obviously not, given that ships manage to achieve re-entry.

As can the average UNTIL agent, at least until the
sudden stop. ;-)

Walt Smith
Firelock on DALNet
 
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<firelock_ny@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1107960272.156428.160230@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>I had a non-flying character in a Champions
> game I was running take the hard way down from
> Earth orbit some years ago. He was an ultra-tech
> robot, with full life support and about 30 points
> each of fully resistant physical and energy
> defense, not to mention some extra Body points.
> He was probably the only character I've ever
> had in one of my campaigns who I think could
> have survived this...his quote, as he watched
> the Earth get closer, "This is gonna hurt!"
>
> I don't recall how many dice I threw at him - I
> think it was 30d6 of normal physical for the
> terminal velocity impact at the end, plus some
> multiple number of 8d6 energy killing attacks
> (fire) for the re-entry heat. A fisherman
> pulled a very charred but still functional
> robot out of the Sea of Japan at the beginning
> of the next play session.
>
> My question for the group: is there an
> "official" ruling for how much damage re-entry
> should do to a character? Perhaps in one
> of the Hero sci-fi supplements?
>
Yes, but I like your ruling better. BTW how many 8d6 EKA's did you hit him
with?
 
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firelock_ny@hotmail.com wrote:
> Michael Sears wrote:
>
>>firelock_ny@hotmail.com wrote:
>>
>>>My question for the group: is there an
>>>"official" ruling for how much damage re-entry
>>>should do to a character? Perhaps in one
>>>of the Hero sci-fi supplements?
>>>
>>
>>According to Star Hero, atmospheric re-entry does a flat 5 BODY per
>
> Phase.
>
> "Flat" as in, "no matter what defenses are available"?
> And did they give a rule of thumb on how many phases
> it would take?
>

"Flat" as in "the same amount every Phase without rolling dice".
If you assume an altitude of 125km for the atmosphere to be dense
enought to generate significant friction.
(A Google search produced at least a dozen different numbers for
atmosphere thickness).
Falling that distance would take 2086 Segments or 34 3/4 minutes.


--
Michael Sears armitage@mhcable.com
"No turning back where the end is in sight.
There's a job to be done, a fight to be won."
 
Archived from groups: rec.games.frp.super-heroes (More info?)

Warren Okuma wrote:
> <firelock_ny@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > My question for the group: is there an
> > "official" ruling for how much damage re-entry
> > should do to a character? Perhaps in one
> > of the Hero sci-fi supplements?
> >
> Yes, but I like your ruling better. BTW how many 8d6 EKA's did you
hit him
> with?

I think it was 8, each applied seperately against his
defenses, with no opportunity for recoveries until he
was resting comfortably on the ocean floor. I hadn't
expected it to come up, so I had to improvise a
rule for the experience on the spot.

Walt Smith
Firelock on DALNet
 
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Michael Sears wrote:

> "Flat" as in "the same amount every Phase without rolling dice".
> If you assume an altitude of 125km for the atmosphere to be dense
> enought to generate significant friction.
> (A Google search produced at least a dozen different numbers for
> atmosphere thickness).
> Falling that distance would take 2086 Segments or 34 3/4 minutes.
>
>

Re-entry only counts at ORBITAL velocities, not simple falling. If
you're just released to fall you won't GET that kind of speed unless
you start falling a LONG way out of atmosphere. Atmospheric re-entry
will take a few SECONDS -- maybe up to a minute if you have a really,
really flat entry angle -- before you lose enough speed to stop
burning up.


--
Sea Wasp
/^\
;;;
Live Journal: http://www.livejournal.com/users/seawasp/
 
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"Michael Sears" <armitageNOSPAM@mhcable.com> wrote in message
news:420AAD79.6090702@mhcable.com...
> firelock_ny@hotmail.com wrote:
> >
> > My question for the group: is there an
> > "official" ruling for how much damage re-entry
> > should do to a character? Perhaps in one
> > of the Hero sci-fi supplements?
> >
>
> According to Star Hero, atmospheric re-entry does a flat 5 BODY per Phase.

Oh, come on! You can survive atmospheric re-entry with a mere five points of
resistive ED?


--
David Meadows
I've got nothing to say today
I used my words up yesterday
 
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David Meadows wrote:
> "Michael Sears" <armitageNOSPAM@mhcable.com> wrote in message
> news:420AAD79.6090702@mhcable.com...
>
>>firelock_ny@hotmail.com wrote:
>>
>>>My question for the group: is there an
>>>"official" ruling for how much damage re-entry
>>>should do to a character? Perhaps in one
>>>of the Hero sci-fi supplements?
>>>
>>
>>According to Star Hero, atmospheric re-entry does a flat 5 BODY per Phase.
>
>
> Oh, come on! You can survive atmospheric re-entry with a mere five points of
> resistive ED?
>
>

I just re-checked and 5 BODY is the damage inflicted on a ship making a
controlled reentry. There doesn't seem to be an information on an
uncontrolled plummet.

--
Michael Sears armitage@mhcable.com
"No turning back where the end is in sight.
There's a job to be done, a fight to be won."
 
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