[SOLVED] Motherboard for Ryzen 7800x3d and a CL 30 ram 6000mhz

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I am upgrading my PC after a long wait and going for the Ryzen 7800x3d about 524 US dollars in my country, I did some research but that made me very confused about the motherboards.
ASUS motherboards are bad for 7000 series
Earlier I was interested in a Gigabyte B650M Aorus Pro AX (Wi-Fi) Motherboard -

Gigabyte B650M Aorus Pro AX (Wi-Fi) Motherboard (AMD Socket AM5/Ryzen 7000 Series CPU/Max 128GB DDR5 6666MHz)

Gigabyte B650M Aorus Pro AX WiFi | M-ATX 128GB DDR5 Motherboard | Supports AMD Ryzen 7000 Series Processors | Direct 12+2+1 Phases Digital VRM Solution | PCIe 5.0 M.2 SSD Performance | 2.5GbE LAN & Wi-Fi 6E...

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It is costing me around 280 US dollars in my country.
Gigabyte boards have the best and precise timings for the 7000 series, but I am skeptical to go for it because gigabyte has coil whine issue.
Should I go for it or try some other boards, but the only problem is they are not as good as gigabyte, hardware unboxed did some testing and even found out lower FPS in the other boards -

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTFUa60ozKY


As for the ram it is very hard to find a 6000 mhz CL 30-38-38-96 but I have found one CL 30-40-40-96, how much slower the latter is? Should I go for it?

 

[Lutfij]

IMHO, I'd opt for the larger ATX variant;

Buy Gigabyte B650 Aorus Pro AX | ATX Motherboard | Mdcomputers.in

Gigabyte B650 Aorus Pro AX | ATX 128GB DDR5 Motherboard | Supports AMD Ryzen 7000 Series Processors | Twin 14+2+1 Phases Digital VRM Solution | PCIe 5.0 M.2 SSD Performance | 2.5GbE LAN | ATX Form Factor

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or ASRock's board;

Buy ASRock B650E Steel Legend WIFI | ATX Motherboard | Mdcomputers.in

ASRock B650E Steel Legend WIFI | AM5 ATX Motherboard | Max 128GB DDR5 Memory | PCIe 5.0 M.2 Support | USB 3.2 Gen 2 | 802.11ax Wi-Fi 6E + Bluetooth | DisplayPort | HDMI | 16+2+1 Phase Power Design

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Might I ask what the make and model of your case/PSU is? If you're recycling your PSU, from an older build, include the age of the unit.

 

[ilukey77]

Asus is fine now 100% they had issues but with bios updates across all board manufactures has all but fixed the issue ..
i went overkill and expensive (Rog crosshair x670e gene ) for my 7800x3d as the 7950x3d was my intended goal cpu but settled on the 7800x3d in the end i also bought this board before much was known about the x3d cpu's so i feared the worse ( temps vrm etc etc )..

Also i was thinking about future i plan on sticking with this board till AM6 !!

My advice is look at what you need m.2 slots , form factor and budget

My gskil ddr5 6000 cl 30 2x16 is what alot of the reviewers were using as per AMD's recommendations not sure there is going to be much difference's with them middle timings..

 

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IMHO, I'd opt for the larger ATX variant;

Buy Gigabyte B650 Aorus Pro AX | ATX Motherboard | Mdcomputers.in

Gigabyte B650 Aorus Pro AX | ATX 128GB DDR5 Motherboard | Supports AMD Ryzen 7000 Series Processors | Twin 14+2+1 Phases Digital VRM Solution | PCIe 5.0 M.2 SSD Performance | 2.5GbE LAN | ATX Form Factor

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or ASRock's board;

Buy ASRock B650E Steel Legend WIFI | ATX Motherboard | Mdcomputers.in

ASRock B650E Steel Legend WIFI | AM5 ATX Motherboard | Max 128GB DDR5 Memory | PCIe 5.0 M.2 Support | USB 3.2 Gen 2 | 802.11ax Wi-Fi 6E + Bluetooth | DisplayPort | HDMI | 16+2+1 Phase Power Design

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Might I ask what the make and model of your case/PSU is? If you're recycling your PSU, from an older build, include the age of the unit.

I am running a 6 years old antec edge 750w 80 plus gold PSU.
A friend of mine is visiting US next month and he is going to take care of a 7900xtx for me coz it is 400 - 700 dollars cheaper there depending upon the variant. Currently I am running a RTX 2070, post that I am thinking of upgrading to a 850w 80 plus gold PSU.

It is also very hard non wifi variant here, might I ask why are you suggesting ATX boards? are the top b650m boards not good enough for 7800x3d?
Still the question remains the same should I avoid gigabyte coz of coil whine issue or it is very highly unlikely to happen? Are the other boards still bad as compared to gigabyte or they all have caught up to gigabyte?

Edit: My case is Corsair 460x RGB

 

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Asus is fine now 100% they had issues but with bios updates across all board manufactures has all but fixed the issue ..
i went overkill and expensive (Rog crosshair x670e gene ) for my 7800x3d as the 7950x3d was my intended goal cpu but settled on the 7800x3d in the end i also bought this board before much was known about the x3d cpu's so i feared the worse ( temps vrm etc etc )..

Also i was thinking about future i plan on sticking with this board till AM6 !!

My advice is look at what you need m.2 slots , form factor and budget

My gskil ddr5 6000 cl 30 2x16 is what alot of the reviewers were using as per AMD's recommendations not sure there is going to be much difference's with them middle timings..

I am thinking the same since intel's 14th gen is still far will stick to AM5 till the end. Will upgrade once AM5 is dead.

Budget, expansion slots and from factor is all good, I have already made calculations. Just want a good enough board since everything here is very costly.

As for the ram goes as you suggested I guess I will buy the CL 38-40-40-96

 

[ilukey77]

I am running a 6 years old antec edge 750w 80 plus gold PSU.
A friend of mine is visiting US next month and he is going to take care of a 7900xtx for me coz it is 400 - 700 dollars cheaper there depending upon the variant. Currently I am running a RTX 2070, post that I am thinking of upgrading to a 850w 80 plus gold PSU.

It is also very hard non wifi variant here, might I ask why are you suggesting ATX boards? are the top b650m boards not good enough for 7800x3d?
Still the question remains the same should I avoid gigabyte coz of coil whine issue or it is very highly unlikely to happen? Are the other boards still bad as compared to gigabyte or they all have caught up to gigabyte?

Edit: My case is Corsair 460x RGB

i would stick with a 1000w with the 7900xtx just as overkill .. im sure a 850w might do the job but but my 7800x3d and 7900xtx red devil has chugged along like a champ with some solid OCing and just everyday use with the 1000w no issues

 

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i would stick with a 1000w with the 7900xtx just as overkill .. im sure a 850w might do the job but but my 7800x3d and 7900xtx red devil has chugged along like a champ with some solid OCing and just everyday use with the 1000w no issues

1000w is way too overkill, 7800x3d is a very efficient chip. I would have gone for 1000w if 7900xtx is paired with 13900k or even 13700k for that matter.

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

1000w is way too overkill, 7800x3d is a very efficient chip. I would have gone for 1000w if 7900xtx and 7800x3d is paired with 13900k or even 13700k for that matter.

Transient power spikes. Better to have the headroom than not! I would also recommend a 1000w PSU.

 

[ilukey77]

1000w is way too overkill, 7800x3d is a very efficient chip. I would have gone for 1000w if 7900xtx and 7800x3d is paired with 13900k or even 13700k for that matter.

well the powercolor website recommends 900w with the 7900xtx red devil ( the people who make the gpu ) so im sure they know better than any DIY enthusiast ..

There are recommendations for a reason !!

even if its a blanket power requirement how do you know what 7900xtx the OP is buying or what he plans to do with it later Extreme OC etc etc..

It amuses me and some what upsets me when people buy cheap arse bad rated low powered PSU's have issues then wonder why all in the name of having just enough wattage or to save a dollar !!

 

[Lucky_SLS]

have a look at the top tier PSUs in this list: https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/

look at the superscripts [13] [14] [15] and especially [1] and the explanation: Units experiencing tripping issues with high transient power draw GPUs like AMD Vega, 6900 XT and Nvidia RTX3080/3090. Generally fixed in newer batches.

if you notice, those units are 1000W units and still had stability issues providing power for those transient loads.

I dont know if manually setting power limit targets would help in this case...

 

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So, I have finally made up my mind and I think I am going to go with Asus strix B650E-F.
I will be upgrading to a new cooler since my current one doesn't support AM5 platform, any recommendations especially when the 7800x3d is so much efficient?
Noctua NH D15 seems to be an overkill, the second thing is ram clearance to keep in mind.
AIO cooler recommendations are also welcomed.

Edit: would prefer minimal RGB or no RGB at all, no rainbow puke please.

 

[Lucky_SLS]

Thermalright peerless assassin or deep cool ag620

 

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Thermalright peerless assassin or deep cool ag620

Ahh, been looking for these and you have the same recommendations. Thermalright isn't available here, deepcool ag 620 or ak620? Ram clearance is an issue here.

 

[Lucky_SLS]

Ak620 got better fans. And I think ram clearance is about the same in both models...

 

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I have gone with these items -

https://imgur.com/a/0dMcxlL

View: https://imgur.com/a/0dMcxlL


Only change is the CL32 ram instead of a CL30, went with CL 32 coz it was 45 dollars cheaper than the CL30 ram.
Will be getting the 7900 XTX from USA, my friend will be there on 5th of this month and will also be upgrading to a 1000W 80 plus gold PSU once the GPU arrives.

Will update once the GPU arrives.

 

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Update - I will receive my GPU - Sapphire Nitro+ 7900XTX by this Sunday or Monday.

I can't decide what to buy since I can't find a clear winner, please suggest some good 80 plus gold fully modular 1000w PSUs.

Additionally please suggest a good 4k 144hz monitor as well, kinda confused which one to go for approx. 600-700 dollars price range.

 

[Lucky_SLS]

Psu - rme1000 - https://www.vedantcomputers.com/pc-...r-supply-cp-9020250-in?sort=p.price&order=ASC

Monitor - odyssey g7 43" mini led - https://www.amazon.in/Samsung-43-in...95226579&sprefix=samsung+odess,aps,142&sr=8-4

 

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not sure about rme1000 I think Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 1000W is better.
That odyssey g7 43 is okay instead odyssey neo G7 32 is way better and is one of the best monitor out there, but the problem is it's way too costly, I am looking for something around 600ish, 700 only if the deal is good .

 

[Lucky_SLS]

The gf3 is the better choice. Go for it.

Suggested the g7 43" if you have the desk space and cuz of its 360 zone full array back-lit. I have the same display.

Alternate 32" suggestion:

Amazon.in

 

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The gf3 is the better choice. Go for it.

Suggested the g7 43" if you have the desk space and cuz of its 360 zone full array back-lit. I have the same display.

Alternate 32" suggestion:

Amazon.in

What are you thoughts on odyssey G7 S28 it is perfectly fitting my budget, the others are a bit costly.

 

[Lucky_SLS]

28" for a 4k is a bit of waste of money if you ask me. 32" and above makes sense.

Or you could explore 34" ultrawides

Amazon.in

 

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28" for a 4k is a bit of waste of money if you ask me. 32" and above makes sense.

Or you could explore 34" ultrawides

Amazon.in

ohh thought so too, evryone is saying the same thing ppi will be very tight.

 

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Also if I am to buy Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 1000W I think I will be short on pcie cable, it comes with two 6+2 cable wherein I will be needing three 8 pin or 6+2pin connectors to run the gpu. @Lucky_SLS

 

[Lucky_SLS]

It got separate 8 pin eps connectors.

So with 2 x 8 pin eps and 4 X 8 pin pcie, it should be sufficient for a single gpu system?

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/HXjBD3/thermaltake-toughpower-gf3-tt-premium-1000-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ps-tpd-1000fnfagu-4

 

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It got separate 8 pin eps connectors.

So with 2 x 8 pin eps and 4 X 8 pin pcie, it should be sufficient for a single gpu system?

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/HXjBD3/thermaltake-toughpower-gf3-tt-premium-1000-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ps-tpd-1000fnfagu-4

Let me rephrase -
it comes with only 2 PCIE connectors with four 6+2 connections, but since one 8pin connector can only power up upto 150w I will be needing a third one which isn't included with the power supply.
I am afraid to use the 2 extra PCIE connectors attached to the 2 main connectors since it is not recommended at all for the high end GPUs, what should I do in this case?
Will the 2 PCIE 6+2pin connectors suffice the 7900XTX included in the box, meaning 1 cable with 1 connection and the 2nd cable with two connections.