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Only games?
Make and model mouse?
Perhaps some other game or application has altered the mouse behavior.
Have you tried the mouse on another computer?
Start by downloading the drivers via the manufacturer's website. Reinstall the drivers and reconfigure the mouse.
Make and model mouse?
Perhaps some other game or application has altered the mouse behavior.
Have you tried the mouse on another computer?
Start by downloading the drivers via the manufacturer's website. Reinstall the drivers and reconfigure the mouse.
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No problem. Moderator's can unselect if your attempts to unselect failed.
It would be helpful to know the make and model mouse. Someone else following this thread may spot some error of omission or commission on my part.
Or have some direct knowledge that can be applied beyond just re-configuring or reinstalling the drivers.
Details matter. Helps to narrow down the troubleshooting process and researching applicable options/fixes.
It would be helpful to know the make and model mouse. Someone else following this thread may spot some error of omission or commission on my part.
Or have some direct knowledge that can be applied beyond just re-configuring or reinstalling the drivers.
Details matter. Helps to narrow down the troubleshooting process and researching applicable options/fixes.
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I tend to be very leery of such "fixes".
Keep working with it all and you will either get used to the mouse's behavior or learn more about what is actually going wrong.
And remember that Microsoft/Windows are pushing various updates, etc. for the next release. Not everything is working correctly and it is unlikely that any less than catastrophic issues will even be acknowledged. Just quietly fixed later (cynicism conceded).
Keep an eye on it all and either there will be some fix published or the issue will simply disappear.
Keep working with it all and you will either get used to the mouse's behavior or learn more about what is actually going wrong.
And remember that Microsoft/Windows are pushing various updates, etc. for the next release. Not everything is working correctly and it is unlikely that any less than catastrophic issues will even be acknowledged. Just quietly fixed later (cynicism conceded).
Keep an eye on it all and either there will be some fix published or the issue will simply disappear.
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Check for any updates that may have occurred.
Open Event Viewer and look for any error codes, warnings, or informational entries that preceded the return of the "slippery slow feel". Use the date and time stamps to narrow the searching and looking.
Something that happened, started, or stopped just before or at the time the problem returned.
Open Event Viewer and look for any error codes, warnings, or informational entries that preceded the return of the "slippery slow feel". Use the date and time stamps to narrow the searching and looking.
Something that happened, started, or stopped just before or at the time the problem returned.
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Open Task Manager or (alternatively) Resource Monitor.
Leave the window open but slide to one side or the other so you can watch what is happening.
Work, game/play as you normally do. When the mouse becomes a problem look for something that changed in the window. Maybe memory filled up. Or the CPU use spiked.... Any changes at all that correlate with the "slippery" behavior appearing and disappearing.
May take some time to catch the issue but keep working at it. Using the tool(s) will become easier as you become familiar with navigating within the window and the information being presented to you.
Leave the window open but slide to one side or the other so you can watch what is happening.
Work, game/play as you normally do. When the mouse becomes a problem look for something that changed in the window. Maybe memory filled up. Or the CPU use spiked.... Any changes at all that correlate with the "slippery" behavior appearing and disappearing.
May take some time to catch the issue but keep working at it. Using the tool(s) will become easier as you become familiar with navigating within the window and the information being presented to you.
i just noticed the delay is not always there. on desktop its not really there but in CS GO its crazy delayed you can see it catching up to what you do. PUBG has the same thing. but playing squad it felt buttery smooth and i had no issues.
damn it keeps on getting weirder. at first cs go had massive delay and restarted and now the delay is mostly gone. but it still feels like my shots arent hitting and its not doing what i want. it also randomly moves the mouse when i dont touch it.
this is probably the weirdest thing thats happened to me
this is probably the weirdest thing thats happened to me
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Check the game sites.
Look for anyone else experiencing similar problems.
You might also try some pathpings and tracerts targeting the game sites.
The delays may be via your ISP or further along the path to the game site.
Remember that the packet's path(s) are always changing. That would explain why the problem is intermittent.
Look for anyone else experiencing similar problems.
You might also try some pathpings and tracerts targeting the game sites.
The delays may be via your ISP or further along the path to the game site.
Remember that the packet's path(s) are always changing. That would explain why the problem is intermittent.
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ISP and "packet paths":
When you game (or actually do anything) on a network - which includes the internet, your actions and the responses to those actions are bundled into data packets, addressed, and sent back an forth.
Packets are of a fixed size and the data (say a video for example) is broken into many packets and sent to the destination IP address. The packets may take different routes and are simple reassembled when and as they arrive at the destination IP address
So if some of the packets get "lost" they be need to be resent. Or packets may get delayed along the way due to heavy traffic (just like a traffic jam) and/or some delays imposed by ISP's, cheaters (common in gaming), blocked routes, etc. Any number of reasons.
However, many home routers also allow the network administrator to prioritize traffic, block sites, impose restrictions via "parental controls". May or may not be some setting in your router slowing things down.
Or just a buggy router.
There are two "tools" that you as an end user can run from the command prompt on your computer to help find and identify bottlenecks slowing your "packets" incoming or outgoing.
The tools are "tracert" and "pathping". Both tools are limited and not a sure bet to find any given problem per se. They should however, provide some insight as to where the problem is occurring.
Start learning via the following link:
https://www.lifewire.com/what-are-hops-hop-counts-2625905
Then google for additional links and information as you feel necessary.
There are other tools. E.g.:
http://techgenix.com/top-11-networking-commands/
Focus on tracert and pathping. See what you can find and learn.
Do not immediately react and start changing your system. The key is to be very certain about the source of the problem and, hopefully, the fix to be applied.
When you game (or actually do anything) on a network - which includes the internet, your actions and the responses to those actions are bundled into data packets, addressed, and sent back an forth.
Packets are of a fixed size and the data (say a video for example) is broken into many packets and sent to the destination IP address. The packets may take different routes and are simple reassembled when and as they arrive at the destination IP address
So if some of the packets get "lost" they be need to be resent. Or packets may get delayed along the way due to heavy traffic (just like a traffic jam) and/or some delays imposed by ISP's, cheaters (common in gaming), blocked routes, etc. Any number of reasons.
However, many home routers also allow the network administrator to prioritize traffic, block sites, impose restrictions via "parental controls". May or may not be some setting in your router slowing things down.
Or just a buggy router.
There are two "tools" that you as an end user can run from the command prompt on your computer to help find and identify bottlenecks slowing your "packets" incoming or outgoing.
The tools are "tracert" and "pathping". Both tools are limited and not a sure bet to find any given problem per se. They should however, provide some insight as to where the problem is occurring.
Start learning via the following link:
https://www.lifewire.com/what-are-hops-hop-counts-2625905
Then google for additional links and information as you feel necessary.
There are other tools. E.g.:
http://techgenix.com/top-11-networking-commands/
Focus on tracert and pathping. See what you can find and learn.
Do not immediately react and start changing your system. The key is to be very certain about the source of the problem and, hopefully, the fix to be applied.
sorry but im honestly too dumb to do all this ISP stuff, but again a game like squad has no delay at all but other games like fortnite CS GO and PUBG have massive delay. i still feel like something is just turning on mouse acceleration or something like that
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No. You are not too dumb.
It all gets messy and complicated very fast because there are so many factors involved. And intermittent problems are even more difficult to resolve. Add in product/service marketing hype that is technically meaningless (e.g., "fastest", "fully compatible") and no one knows what to really expect.
Seems that you are succeeding to some extent in that you have narrowed the problem down to just a couple of specific games. Think about what makes those games different than the games without delays?
How do you play? Fast and furious I am sure - could be you just sometimes brush some keyboard key combination that would normally be ignored but in the speed of things makes the app go "What the.....".
You must be willing to look into possibilities that, to be fair, may not be at all relevant. Just as a matter of elimination if nothing else.
Mouse acceleration: try other mice and drivers. Keep using the monitors and the tools suggested. As you become more familiar with the tools, you are more likely to notice something.
Continue to be aware of what your system is doing at any given time. Background stuff in particular. Could be some app is trying to update and failing. Power saver attempting to kick in. Or some backup is launching. Or your system is looking for some shared device that is not longer there.
Fairly certain that you put a great deal of time, effort, and thinking into gaming. You need to match or exceed those levels with respect to troubleshooting the problem at hand.
Do so very methodically and watch everything. Clear the Event Viewer logs, watch Task Manager and Resource Monitor with and without gaming. Allow your system some time to stabilize between launching applications, etc.
And what you learn is likely to make you a better gamer. Knowledge pays off in many ways.
It all gets messy and complicated very fast because there are so many factors involved. And intermittent problems are even more difficult to resolve. Add in product/service marketing hype that is technically meaningless (e.g., "fastest", "fully compatible") and no one knows what to really expect.
Seems that you are succeeding to some extent in that you have narrowed the problem down to just a couple of specific games. Think about what makes those games different than the games without delays?
How do you play? Fast and furious I am sure - could be you just sometimes brush some keyboard key combination that would normally be ignored but in the speed of things makes the app go "What the.....".
You must be willing to look into possibilities that, to be fair, may not be at all relevant. Just as a matter of elimination if nothing else.
Mouse acceleration: try other mice and drivers. Keep using the monitors and the tools suggested. As you become more familiar with the tools, you are more likely to notice something.
Continue to be aware of what your system is doing at any given time. Background stuff in particular. Could be some app is trying to update and failing. Power saver attempting to kick in. Or some backup is launching. Or your system is looking for some shared device that is not longer there.
Fairly certain that you put a great deal of time, effort, and thinking into gaming. You need to match or exceed those levels with respect to troubleshooting the problem at hand.
Do so very methodically and watch everything. Clear the Event Viewer logs, watch Task Manager and Resource Monitor with and without gaming. Allow your system some time to stabilize between launching applications, etc.
And what you learn is likely to make you a better gamer. Knowledge pays off in many ways.
well one thing ive noticed is that in cs go i get fps spikes where my fps drops by like 10 or 20 and the game freezes for a milisecond or something. ive had this issue in other games but never in cs go but its there now.
and i dont think im just doing something random thats causing issues. i play games the same way its just that some games have massive delay and my mouse feels like a brick.
and i dont think im just doing something random thats causing issues. i play games the same way its just that some games have massive delay and my mouse feels like a brick.
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Well, "some games" is the key then.
The delays in those games could be due to heavy traffic, people cheating, ISP(s) throttling.....
An intermittent problem everywhere is one thing. With just certain games, then the source of the problem is unique to some particular combination of things.
May not have been in cs per se before. However, things are always changing and, for whatever reasons, cs is now being impacted.
Some software can handle minor hardware/driver glitches. However as the glitches increase, then any given application is likely to begin faltering.
Could be that, over time, some component in your system is slowly degrading. Problem will get worse.
Covering a lot of ground thus far. Question: have you cleaned your system? Opened it up, checked all connections, chips etc. to ensure that all are fully connected and tight.
Cleaned out dust and debris. Run Disk Cleanup and defrag (if applicable)?
The delays in those games could be due to heavy traffic, people cheating, ISP(s) throttling.....
An intermittent problem everywhere is one thing. With just certain games, then the source of the problem is unique to some particular combination of things.
May not have been in cs per se before. However, things are always changing and, for whatever reasons, cs is now being impacted.
Some software can handle minor hardware/driver glitches. However as the glitches increase, then any given application is likely to begin faltering.
Could be that, over time, some component in your system is slowly degrading. Problem will get worse.
Covering a lot of ground thus far. Question: have you cleaned your system? Opened it up, checked all connections, chips etc. to ensure that all are fully connected and tight.
Cleaned out dust and debris. Run Disk Cleanup and defrag (if applicable)?
probably a good idear to share my specs
Operating System
Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
CPU
Intel Core i5 2500K @ 3.30GHz
Sandy Bridge 32nm Technology
RAM
16.0GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 665MHz (9-9-9-24)
Motherboard
ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. P8H61-M LX2 (LGA1155)
Graphics
BenQ RL2450H (1920x1080@60Hz)
PL2390 (1920x1080@60Hz)
3071MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 3GB (ASUStek Computer Inc)
Storage
931GB SAMSUNG HD103SJ ATA Device (SATA)
PSU: cooler master 1200W silent gold
Operating System
Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
CPU
Intel Core i5 2500K @ 3.30GHz
Sandy Bridge 32nm Technology
RAM
16.0GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 665MHz (9-9-9-24)
Motherboard
ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. P8H61-M LX2 (LGA1155)
Graphics
BenQ RL2450H (1920x1080@60Hz)
PL2390 (1920x1080@60Hz)
3071MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 3GB (ASUStek Computer Inc)
Storage
931GB SAMSUNG HD103SJ ATA Device (SATA)
PSU: cooler master 1200W silent gold
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