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[citation][nom]son_of_the_kiss[/nom]it was proven in a magazine like last year, i can't recall the name of it, but i'm pretty sure it's still floating around on the tubes. and yes i am out of my mind, i pay the premium so that i don't have to worry about the fact that in about 3 years my computer will not be able to run some of the more advanced software because my manufacturer refuses to publish firmware upgrades till 70% of their consumers complain about it[/citation]

Instead your manufacturer just deletes the posts of people posting problems, so they look like they don't even exist. It just works!

Personally I think this whole situation is great. Mac provides competition to keep Microsoft honest, and Microsoft has exposed Mac for having overpriced hardware to which they have subsequently dropped the price on. We the consumers reap the benefits.
 
[citation][nom]dman3k[/nom]You mean that Lenovo's LED-backlit screen isn't built for consumers?Get over it! The only things different from a Mac to a "PC" are the Operating System and the motherboard bios which lock the system to only be able to use Apple-licensed hardware.Tell me how else Foxconn Mobo for the Apple is different from a Foxconn Mobo for the general PC. Tell me how else an Intel processor for the Apple functions differently than on a general PC. Tell how a NVIDIA GeForce 9400M is different for a Mac than it is for a general PC. Tell me how Crucial's RAM modules on a Apple are different than its modules on a general PC. Tell me!We can go all day at this and you will never win. Face it, Apple charges more for a license and a logo. It's a marketing SCAM![/citation]

you have seen the amount of miniaturization that Apple did to get the thing to work to their satisfaction.
i gladly pay the premium for truly clever technology, especially since i know that i won't have to buy a new computer till a completely new line comes out and the software is optimized for the new technology.
i'm guessing you're running XP and stop condemning marketing, mostly people pay more - by percent - for that silly AE shirt than they do for that 2 year old mac sitting on my desk
 
[citation][nom]deathblooms2k1[/nom]Instead your manufacturer just deletes the posts of people posting problems, so they look like they don't even exist. It just works!Personally I think this whole situation is great. Mac provides competition to keep Microsoft honest, and Microsoft has exposed Mac for having overpriced hardware to which they have subsequently dropped the price on. We the consumers reap the benefits.[/citation]

where's the evidence for the deletion? and according to a post earlier there really shouldn't be competition against PCs since they apparently run the world and holds most of the market
 
[citation][nom]sicundercover[/nom]BTW, Whats the best Graphics Configuration you can get on a Mac Pro right now today? 4x NVidia Geforce GT 120's (which is a renamed 9500GT)or one ATI Radeon HD 4870. Certainly not the best for Multimedia.[/citation]

You can actually get a GTX 285 for the Mac Pro or a Quadro FX 4800. Those are what I would call "decent" cards. You can't get one in a configured system but you can get them aftermarket.
 
[citation][nom]mrkenan[/nom]You can actually get a GTX 285 for the Mac Pro or a Quadro FX 4800. Those are what I would call "decent" cards. You can't get one in a configured system but you can get them aftermarket.[/citation]

yeah... that didn't help at all.
 
[citation][nom]son_of_the_kiss[/nom]please tell me at least some of the people here arguing against me has at least used a mac, at least a Linux, machine for more than a few hours[/citation]

i guess the hotheads have given up.
 
[citation][nom]son_of_the_kiss[/nom]you have seen the amount of miniaturization that Apple did to get the thing to work to their satisfaction. i gladly pay the premium for truly clever technology, especially since i know that i won't have to buy a new computer till a completely new line comes out and the software is optimized for the new technology. i'm guessing you're running XP and stop condemning marketing, mostly people pay more - by percent - for that silly AE shirt than they do for that 2 year old mac sitting on my desk[/citation]Oh yeah, that NVIDIDA video card is truly a clever technology on a MacBook than it is on a general PC... Oh wow! Look at how different those memory chips run on a Mac than it does on a general PC!

Oh wait, what does the benchmark say? OMG, a general PC half the cost of a Mac regularly beat the Mac in every single category? Boy, you say what?

Oh yeah, I think Macs are overpriced because I'm still using Windows XP. Wait, how are these two things related?

[citation][nom]mrkenan[/nom]You can actually get a GTX 285 for the Mac Pro or a Quadro FX 4800.[/citation]Yes, and run what on it?
 
[citation][nom]son_of_the_kiss[/nom]please tell me at least some of the people here arguing against me has at least used a mac, at least a Linux, machine for more than a few hours[/citation]
[citation][nom]son_of_the_kiss[/nom]i guess the hotheads have given up.[/citation]
yes, give people 1 minute to respond. btw, noticed how i only mention the general PC. yeah, we can run whatever we want on those! something Apple fanbois such as yourself fail to realize. what operating system i use is none of your business and isn't even important.

lenovo vs apple, debate is over. apple lost.
 
[citation][nom]rwpritchett[/nom]Why is the "Mac" GTX 285 over $100 more than the exact same spec/brand/etc. regular GTX 285???[/citation]

Driver support for a different operating system, for one, and the fact they won't sell as many of them because there aren't as many Macs out there as PCs. Not to mention that only a small percentage of mac users will put them in their systems. The less they make and sell the more they need to charge to turn a profit.
 
[citation][nom]rwpritchett[/nom]Why is the "Mac" GTX 285 over $100 more than the exact same spec/brand/etc. regular GTX 285???BTW son_of_the_kiss, I have a mix of PC's and macs at my house and yes, I've used linux.[/citation]

well do you use the mac? because if you do then you should at least see the merit in the different technology
 
[citation][nom]deathblooms2k1[/nom]Here's your evidence from our very own toms articles.http://www.tomshardware.com/review [...] ,1747.html[/citation]

news to me, then again i don't see the merit in the imac
 
What would you use the GTX 285 for on a mac? For "ILife because i don't have a life"? Just to see your pics in special HD or something, Macs are useless, they just hike up the price to make up their lack of sales.
 
[citation][nom]dman3k[/nom]yes, give people 1 minute to respond. btw, noticed how i only mention the general PC. yeah, we can run whatever we want on those! something Apple fanbois such as yourself fail to realize. what operating system i use is none of your business and isn't even important.lenovo vs apple, debate is over. apple lost.[/citation]

the basis of the argument is OS, without OS it's just a bunch of wires and silicon. the main difference is also the way the difference technologies use the hardware.
and the fact that you can run everything is part of the issue, windows is too easy to infect
 
[citation][nom]son_of_the_kiss[/nom]well do you use the mac? because if you do then you should at least see the merit in the different technology[/citation]I do use a 13" macbook and will give it kudos for battery life, startup time, build quality and aesthetics.

 
[citation][nom]Upendra09[/nom]What would you use the GTX 285 for on a mac? For "ILife because i don't have a life"? Just to see your pics in special HD or something, Macs are useless, they just hike up the price to make up their lack of sales.[/citation]

idk know about you, but there is that new bit of technology called OpenCL. and since you're so clever that you figured out their profit method why don't you come up with a different strategy that will benefit the company the same while lowering cost
 
[citation][nom]son_of_the_kiss[/nom]not all people use computers to watch stuff, there is actual computing going on. read the other posts. as far as benchmarking goes, Apple optimize everything they release so you don't need to clock your system so that it can do what it's supposed to do besides most if not all software built for the PC is 32 bit which never use all 4Gb of RAM, only 64 bit systems are capable of that and last time i checked only Apple and some Linux distributions use 64 bit as the base of operations. and i'm a computer engineering student.[/citation]

The only ppl who OC are people who are enthusiasts and like paying less and getting more, That's the point of OCing if u didn't know. And not everyone needs 64 bit computers, like netbooks, oh wait macs don't have netbooks do they?

[citation][nom]son_of_the_kiss[/nom]might be true, but the macs of today will not have the problem of not being able to use anymore than 2 Tb of memory. besides, if PCs notebooks are that much better why is it that so many things are done on macs instead of PCs[/citation]

Who needs more than 2 tb of memory? unless you are a person who needs lots of photo space , where you would get a workstation instead of a PC, which would still cost less than a MAC workstation.
 
[citation][nom]dman3k[/nom]Oh yeah, that NVIDIDA video card is truly a clever technology on a MacBook than it is on a general PC... Oh wow! Look at how different those memory chips run on a Mac than it does on a general PC!Oh wait, what does the benchmark say? OMG, a general PC half the cost of a Mac regularly beat the Mac in every single category? Boy, you say what?Oh yeah, I think Macs are overpriced because I'm still using Windows XP. Wait, how are these two things related?Yes, and run what on it?[/citation]

because the one you are worshipping haven't contributed to computing without hassle in about 3 years
 
[citation][nom]rwpritchett[/nom]I do use a 13" macbook and will give it kudos for battery life, startup time, build quality and aesthetics.[/citation]

excellent, but you haven't explored the power of the OS have you
 
[citation][nom]Upendra09[/nom]The only ppl who OC are people who are enthusiasts and like paying less and getting more, That's the point of OCing if u didn't know. And not everyone needs 64 bit computers, like netbooks, oh wait macs don't have netbooks do they? Who needs more than 2 tb of memory? unless you are a person who needs lots of photo space , where you would get a workstation instead of a PC, which would still cost less than a MAC workstation.[/citation]
[citation][nom]Upendra09[/nom]The only ppl who OC are people who are enthusiasts and like paying less and getting more, That's the point of OCing if u didn't know. And not everyone needs 64 bit computers, like netbooks, oh wait macs don't have netbooks do they? Who needs more than 2 tb of memory? unless you are a person who needs lots of photo space , where you would get a workstation instead of a PC, which would still cost less than a MAC workstation.[/citation]

yes i know what overclocking is. not everyone can be disgusted with the idea of doing completely different. and netbooks are just a poor excuse for people to lug around something that looks cute. true, but would you ever use a workstation for everyday things :/
 
I love how just about everyone here is a PC fanboi, so now it's illegal to be a fanboi, BUT ONLY if your on the loosing side. It's bullshit people. Everytime someone on the Mac side comes up with something valid, everyone just says "oh that? That's not true" and moves on.

Dman3k, it's not that the hardware is different, it's the performance Apple can squeeze out of it. They have developed Leopard Snow as small and optimized as it comes. Something that is coming in Win7, but not quite as much as with Leopard.

NOT TO MENTION: Apple claims that these are REAL peopl not actors in these adds, but they can go and "do a remake"?!So that it's more accurate. Just to shoot back, so some of what is in the Laptop hunter adds are true, a lot of it is bullshit that's completely misconceptions or Microsoft sucking the life out of stupid consumers. Microsoft has it easy, the general population they sell to is completely computer illiterate. Now granted us enthusiasts are not, but the general population IS. So the Laptop hunter adds are mostly cheap shots at Apple, aimed at uninformed buyers that MAKES Windows look like the perfect choice.
 
[citation][nom]Upendra09[/nom]What would you use the GTX 285 for on a mac? For "ILife because i don't have a life"? Just to see your pics in special HD or something, Macs are useless, they just hike up the price to make up their lack of sales.[/citation]
While they may be useless for you, they are perfect for me. I am a photographer/graphic designer/video editor and I love how CS3 runs in OSX. I also use Final Cut Pro which of course only runs in OSX. On the other hand I like to dabble in the gaming world so dual booting windows is great and thats where I'd get some use out of a GTX 285. Are the specs for gaming as good as they could be if I built my own system? No. But I can't justify having two systems right now so this is how its gonna be. I get two systems in one.
 
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