Mushkin 2-2-2 & P4P800 bad combo??

[Ron]

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Just built a P2.8C system on a P4P800 (have not tweaked/overclocked
anything yet). I was having problems with randaom reboots while
trying to apply the latest patches and updates to the OS (XP-Pro).
After running Memtest86, I found out why.....my 1GB (2x512) of Mushkin
2-2-2 was reporting errors. I have since popped in 512 (2x256) of
Twinmows/Winbond BH-5 and everything is running smooth. I have a high
degree of confidence that Mushkin was the culprit.

Here are my questions:

Mushkin is not on the apporved vendor list for this board, is that why
I am getting errors - or is it just that I got some bad RAM. Will
tweaking the memory timings / voltage help? (Keep in mind that the
timings were set loose and I was at stock voltage for the Memtest).

I saw somewhere that the P4P800 does not like to run at 2-2-2, but is
better at 2-3-2-6 or 2-3-2-7 - Anyone else agree with this statement
and why?

Ultimate goal is to have a fast/stable machine for gaming & video
editing. If the Muskin RAM won't work, any suggestions on what I
should throw in this machine? I will want 1GB Dual
Channel....somthing that could be overclocked if need be.

TIA

Ron

PS The BIOS has already been upgraded to the latest version 1016 (I
think thats the latest).

 

[user]

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my friend had mushkin for an abit board. his muskins were running 2.5V but
the mobo was giving like 2.7V at normal operation. he in the end burned the
RAM. the reason you are failing may be similar. it is not just timings.
voltages are also important.

"ron" <ron_mase@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:49ff3227.0404030928.58c86c3b@posting.google.com...
> Just built a P2.8C system on a P4P800 (have not tweaked/overclocked
> anything yet). I was having problems with randaom reboots while
> trying to apply the latest patches and updates to the OS (XP-Pro).
> After running Memtest86, I found out why.....my 1GB (2x512) of Mushkin
> 2-2-2 was reporting errors. I have since popped in 512 (2x256) of
> Twinmows/Winbond BH-5 and everything is running smooth. I have a high
> degree of confidence that Mushkin was the culprit.
>
> Here are my questions:
>
> Mushkin is not on the apporved vendor list for this board, is that why
> I am getting errors - or is it just that I got some bad RAM. Will
> tweaking the memory timings / voltage help? (Keep in mind that the
> timings were set loose and I was at stock voltage for the Memtest).
>
> I saw somewhere that the P4P800 does not like to run at 2-2-2, but is
> better at 2-3-2-6 or 2-3-2-7 - Anyone else agree with this statement
> and why?
>
> Ultimate goal is to have a fast/stable machine for gaming & video
> editing. If the Muskin RAM won't work, any suggestions on what I
> should throw in this machine? I will want 1GB Dual
> Channel....somthing that could be overclocked if need be.
>
> TIA
>
> Ron
>
> PS The BIOS has already been upgraded to the latest version 1016 (I
> think thats the latest).

 

[Guest]

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On Sun, 04 Apr 2004 00:11:08 GMT, "user" <user@rogers.com> wrote:

I'm having some serious problems with my Special 2-2-2's as well, on a
A7N8X-D board. One of the modules is as flakey as pastry.


>my friend had mushkin for an abit board. his muskins were running 2.5V but
>the mobo was giving like 2.7V at normal operation. he in the end burned the
>RAM. the reason you are failing may be similar. it is not just timings.
>voltages are also important.
>
>"ron" <ron_mase@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:49ff3227.0404030928.58c86c3b@posting.google.com...
>> Just built a P2.8C system on a P4P800 (have not tweaked/overclocked
>> anything yet). I was having problems with randaom reboots while
>> trying to apply the latest patches and updates to the OS (XP-Pro).
>> After running Memtest86, I found out why.....my 1GB (2x512) of Mushkin
>> 2-2-2 was reporting errors. I have since popped in 512 (2x256) of
>> Twinmows/Winbond BH-5 and everything is running smooth. I have a high
>> degree of confidence that Mushkin was the culprit.
>>
>> Here are my questions:
>>
>> Mushkin is not on the apporved vendor list for this board, is that why
>> I am getting errors - or is it just that I got some bad RAM. Will
>> tweaking the memory timings / voltage help? (Keep in mind that the
>> timings were set loose and I was at stock voltage for the Memtest).
>>
>> I saw somewhere that the P4P800 does not like to run at 2-2-2, but is
>> better at 2-3-2-6 or 2-3-2-7 - Anyone else agree with this statement
>> and why?
>>
>> Ultimate goal is to have a fast/stable machine for gaming & video
>> editing. If the Muskin RAM won't work, any suggestions on what I
>> should throw in this machine? I will want 1GB Dual
>> Channel....somthing that could be overclocked if need be.
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> Ron
>>
>> PS The BIOS has already been upgraded to the latest version 1016 (I
>> think thats the latest).
>

 

[Ron]

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I just got off the phone with Mushkin Tech support. Appearantly, the
Mushkin 2-2-2 needs to run at 2.75V. My P4P800 runs at 2.5 volts by
default. I am currently running Memtest at 2.75 (2-2-2-6-4) and all
appears to be running without error.



Ron




Robert P Drake <skull&bones@bush.net> wrote in message news:<8klu60tj9jidv1s2270en8f23qu1i5d2gm@4ax.com>...
> On Sun, 04 Apr 2004 00:11:08 GMT, "user" <user@rogers.com> wrote:
>
> I'm having some serious problems with my Special 2-2-2's as well, on a
> A7N8X-D board. One of the modules is as flakey as pastry.
>
>
> >my friend had mushkin for an abit board. his muskins were running 2.5V but
> >the mobo was giving like 2.7V at normal operation. he in the end burned the
> >RAM. the reason you are failing may be similar. it is not just timings.
> >voltages are also important.
> >
> >"ron" <ron_mase@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >news:49ff3227.0404030928.58c86c3b@posting.google.com...
> >> Just built a P2.8C system on a P4P800 (have not tweaked/overclocked
> >> anything yet). I was having problems with randaom reboots while
> >> trying to apply the latest patches and updates to the OS (XP-Pro).
> >> After running Memtest86, I found out why.....my 1GB (2x512) of Mushkin
> >> 2-2-2 was reporting errors. I have since popped in 512 (2x256) of
> >> Twinmows/Winbond BH-5 and everything is running smooth. I have a high
> >> degree of confidence that Mushkin was the culprit.
> >>
> >> Here are my questions:
> >>
> >> Mushkin is not on the apporved vendor list for this board, is that why
> >> I am getting errors - or is it just that I got some bad RAM. Will
> >> tweaking the memory timings / voltage help? (Keep in mind that the
> >> timings were set loose and I was at stock voltage for the Memtest).
> >>
> >> I saw somewhere that the P4P800 does not like to run at 2-2-2, but is
> >> better at 2-3-2-6 or 2-3-2-7 - Anyone else agree with this statement
> >> and why?
> >>
> >> Ultimate goal is to have a fast/stable machine for gaming & video
> >> editing. If the Muskin RAM won't work, any suggestions on what I
> >> should throw in this machine? I will want 1GB Dual
> >> Channel....somthing that could be overclocked if need be.
> >>
> >> TIA
> >>
> >> Ron
> >>
> >> PS The BIOS has already been upgraded to the latest version 1016 (I
> >> think thats the latest).
> >

 

[Guest]

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On 5 Apr 2004 15:31:58 -0700, ron_mase@yahoo.com (ron) wrote:

At least they answered your phone call...sat for ten minutes, left a
message and never heard back. BTW, 2.75 isn't an option on my board
(A7N8X-D), only 2.8v and Asus boards tend to over-volt. I did try at
2.7, and still got errors. Now, I get to look forward to another
hassle with actually getting it replaced.

>I just got off the phone with Mushkin Tech support. Appearantly, the
>Mushkin 2-2-2 needs to run at 2.75V. My P4P800 runs at 2.5 volts by
>default. I am currently running Memtest at 2.75 (2-2-2-6-4) and all
>appears to be running without error.
>
>
>
>Ron
>
>
>
>
>Robert P Drake <skull&bones@bush.net> wrote in message news:<8klu60tj9jidv1s2270en8f23qu1i5d2gm@4ax.com>...
>> On Sun, 04 Apr 2004 00:11:08 GMT, "user" <user@rogers.com> wrote:
>>
>> I'm having some serious problems with my Special 2-2-2's as well, on a
>> A7N8X-D board. One of the modules is as flakey as pastry.
>>
>>
>> >my friend had mushkin for an abit board. his muskins were running 2.5V but
>> >the mobo was giving like 2.7V at normal operation. he in the end burned the
>> >RAM. the reason you are failing may be similar. it is not just timings.
>> >voltages are also important.
>> >
>> >"ron" <ron_mase@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> >news:49ff3227.0404030928.58c86c3b@posting.google.com...
>> >> Just built a P2.8C system on a P4P800 (have not tweaked/overclocked
>> >> anything yet). I was having problems with randaom reboots while
>> >> trying to apply the latest patches and updates to the OS (XP-Pro).
>> >> After running Memtest86, I found out why.....my 1GB (2x512) of Mushkin
>> >> 2-2-2 was reporting errors. I have since popped in 512 (2x256) of
>> >> Twinmows/Winbond BH-5 and everything is running smooth. I have a high
>> >> degree of confidence that Mushkin was the culprit.
>> >>
>> >> Here are my questions:
>> >>
>> >> Mushkin is not on the apporved vendor list for this board, is that why
>> >> I am getting errors - or is it just that I got some bad RAM. Will
>> >> tweaking the memory timings / voltage help? (Keep in mind that the
>> >> timings were set loose and I was at stock voltage for the Memtest).
>> >>
>> >> I saw somewhere that the P4P800 does not like to run at 2-2-2, but is
>> >> better at 2-3-2-6 or 2-3-2-7 - Anyone else agree with this statement
>> >> and why?
>> >>
>> >> Ultimate goal is to have a fast/stable machine for gaming & video
>> >> editing. If the Muskin RAM won't work, any suggestions on what I
>> >> should throw in this machine? I will want 1GB Dual
>> >> Channel....somthing that could be overclocked if need be.
>> >>
>> >> TIA
>> >>
>> >> Ron
>> >>
>> >> PS The BIOS has already been upgraded to the latest version 1016 (I
>> >> think thats the latest).
>> >

 

[Ron]

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Yeah, I did have to wait on hold for quite some time with Mushkin
(probably in the 10min range), but when I talked to someone, she was
helpful. I asked her to send me the suggested timings/settings for
future reference, and she actually came through.

I ran memtest on it for 30+ minutes error free.

Ron


Robert P Drake <skull&bones@bush.net> wrote in message news:<bco370dt2thd0es0dpe2dp4mvrb61pvddh@4ax.com>...
> On 5 Apr 2004 15:31:58 -0700, ron_mase@yahoo.com (ron) wrote:
>
> At least they answered your phone call...sat for ten minutes, left a
> message and never heard back. BTW, 2.75 isn't an option on my board
> (A7N8X-D), only 2.8v and Asus boards tend to over-volt. I did try at
> 2.7, and still got errors. Now, I get to look forward to another
> hassle with actually getting it replaced.
>
> >I just got off the phone with Mushkin Tech support. Appearantly, the
> >Mushkin 2-2-2 needs to run at 2.75V. My P4P800 runs at 2.5 volts by
> >default. I am currently running Memtest at 2.75 (2-2-2-6-4) and all
> >appears to be running without error.
> >
> >
> >
> >Ron
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Robert P Drake <skull&bones@bush.net> wrote in message news:<8klu60tj9jidv1s2270en8f23qu1i5d2gm@4ax.com>...
> >> On Sun, 04 Apr 2004 00:11:08 GMT, "user" <user@rogers.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I'm having some serious problems with my Special 2-2-2's as well, on a
> >> A7N8X-D board. One of the modules is as flakey as pastry.
> >>
> >>
> >> >my friend had mushkin for an abit board. his muskins were running 2.5V but
> >> >the mobo was giving like 2.7V at normal operation. he in the end burned the
> >> >RAM. the reason you are failing may be similar. it is not just timings.
> >> >voltages are also important.
> >> >
> >> >"ron" <ron_mase@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> >news:49ff3227.0404030928.58c86c3b@posting.google.com...
> >> >> Just built a P2.8C system on a P4P800 (have not tweaked/overclocked
> >> >> anything yet). I was having problems with randaom reboots while
> >> >> trying to apply the latest patches and updates to the OS (XP-Pro).
> >> >> After running Memtest86, I found out why.....my 1GB (2x512) of Mushkin
> >> >> 2-2-2 was reporting errors. I have since popped in 512 (2x256) of
> >> >> Twinmows/Winbond BH-5 and everything is running smooth. I have a high
> >> >> degree of confidence that Mushkin was the culprit.
> >> >>
> >> >> Here are my questions:
> >> >>
> >> >> Mushkin is not on the apporved vendor list for this board, is that why
> >> >> I am getting errors - or is it just that I got some bad RAM. Will
> >> >> tweaking the memory timings / voltage help? (Keep in mind that the
> >> >> timings were set loose and I was at stock voltage for the Memtest).
> >> >>
> >> >> I saw somewhere that the P4P800 does not like to run at 2-2-2, but is
> >> >> better at 2-3-2-6 or 2-3-2-7 - Anyone else agree with this statement
> >> >> and why?
> >> >>
> >> >> Ultimate goal is to have a fast/stable machine for gaming & video
> >> >> editing. If the Muskin RAM won't work, any suggestions on what I
> >> >> should throw in this machine? I will want 1GB Dual
> >> >> Channel....somthing that could be overclocked if need be.
> >> >>
> >> >> TIA
> >> >>
> >> >> Ron
> >> >>
> >> >> PS The BIOS has already been upgraded to the latest version 1016 (I
> >> >> think thats the latest).
> >> >

 

[Guest]

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On 6 Apr 2004 11:34:00 -0700, ron_mase@yahoo.com (ron) wrote:

I eventually got through as well, and they decided to send another
module. I didn't want to try maxing the voltage out (not when its
mine, that is) so last night I did set it to 2.8v, and it works
without errors. My other module works fine at 2.6v. I don't want to
damage one to get the other to work.

>Yeah, I did have to wait on hold for quite some time with Mushkin
>(probably in the 10min range), but when I talked to someone, she was
>helpful. I asked her to send me the suggested timings/settings for
>future reference, and she actually came through.
>
>I ran memtest on it for 30+ minutes error free.
>
>Ron
>
>
>Robert P Drake <skull&bones@bush.net> wrote in message news:<bco370dt2thd0es0dpe2dp4mvrb61pvddh@4ax.com>...
>> On 5 Apr 2004 15:31:58 -0700, ron_mase@yahoo.com (ron) wrote:
>>
>> At least they answered your phone call...sat for ten minutes, left a
>> message and never heard back. BTW, 2.75 isn't an option on my board
>> (A7N8X-D), only 2.8v and Asus boards tend to over-volt. I did try at
>> 2.7, and still got errors. Now, I get to look forward to another
>> hassle with actually getting it replaced.
>>
>> >I just got off the phone with Mushkin Tech support. Appearantly, the
>> >Mushkin 2-2-2 needs to run at 2.75V. My P4P800 runs at 2.5 volts by
>> >default. I am currently running Memtest at 2.75 (2-2-2-6-4) and all
>> >appears to be running without error.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >Ron
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >Robert P Drake <skull&bones@bush.net> wrote in message news:<8klu60tj9jidv1s2270en8f23qu1i5d2gm@4ax.com>...
>> >> On Sun, 04 Apr 2004 00:11:08 GMT, "user" <user@rogers.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I'm having some serious problems with my Special 2-2-2's as well, on a
>> >> A7N8X-D board. One of the modules is as flakey as pastry.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >my friend had mushkin for an abit board. his muskins were running 2.5V but
>> >> >the mobo was giving like 2.7V at normal operation. he in the end burned the
>> >> >RAM. the reason you are failing may be similar. it is not just timings.
>> >> >voltages are also important.
>> >> >
>> >> >"ron" <ron_mase@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> >> >news:49ff3227.0404030928.58c86c3b@posting.google.com...
>> >> >> Just built a P2.8C system on a P4P800 (have not tweaked/overclocked
>> >> >> anything yet). I was having problems with randaom reboots while
>> >> >> trying to apply the latest patches and updates to the OS (XP-Pro).
>> >> >> After running Memtest86, I found out why.....my 1GB (2x512) of Mushkin
>> >> >> 2-2-2 was reporting errors. I have since popped in 512 (2x256) of
>> >> >> Twinmows/Winbond BH-5 and everything is running smooth. I have a high
>> >> >> degree of confidence that Mushkin was the culprit.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Here are my questions:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Mushkin is not on the apporved vendor list for this board, is that why
>> >> >> I am getting errors - or is it just that I got some bad RAM. Will
>> >> >> tweaking the memory timings / voltage help? (Keep in mind that the
>> >> >> timings were set loose and I was at stock voltage for the Memtest).
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I saw somewhere that the P4P800 does not like to run at 2-2-2, but is
>> >> >> better at 2-3-2-6 or 2-3-2-7 - Anyone else agree with this statement
>> >> >> and why?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Ultimate goal is to have a fast/stable machine for gaming & video
>> >> >> editing. If the Muskin RAM won't work, any suggestions on what I
>> >> >> should throw in this machine? I will want 1GB Dual
>> >> >> Channel....somthing that could be overclocked if need be.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> TIA
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Ron
>> >> >>
>> >> >> PS The BIOS has already been upgraded to the latest version 1016 (I
>> >> >> think thats the latest).
>> >> >