My eventual part list for my First PC build

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Louis Napoleon

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So I finally make the decision to purchase the parts tomorrow and build my PC myself for the first time. I'm trying to avoid as many problem as possible by posting this list here. https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/louisrossberg/saved/#view=RjM8dC

Please any possible teak and suggestion appreciated.

my major concerns:
1. Is the motherboard support the
i5-6600K.

2.any effects on gaming/daily use if i install Windows Embedded 8.1 industry Pro ( is it 64-bits as I can get it for free)
3. is 144hz monitor a wise choice for me. ( I am going to play battlefield 1 max setting at 1080P, assuming I'll get average 110FPS . Overwatch average 140FPS)



 
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looks a good board in all honesty - i have a bit of disdain for msi boards mate so am somewhat biased,good higher end baords,poor low end boards - thats msi.
That board is squarely in the middle.
still think for another 15 quid id personally stump for the gigabyte z170 (especially if you havent purchased the ram yet)...

I made some tweak to my orders and I ended up getting a i7-6700, because I decided not to take the risk of overclocking the CPU, as the PC is also gonna be used as my work station. For the motherboard, the X1/3.1 feature is good but I haven't seen the H170 mobo gets a lot of good reviews in newegg. people complaining about how difficult it is to install it for the first time.
I really wanna compare it to the MSI Gaming mate . http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/s9Gj4D/msi-motherboard-b150gamingm3 which seems getting pretty good reviews
 
Asrock is a better board mate , trust me on that.

That MSI board on release had no support for the i7 , there were loads of people having massive problems with it .
Its been added by the look of it now , but out of principle now I wouldn't buy it.

Dont like MSI boards full stop , stocking nice red heatsinks everywhere & putting a 'gaming' moniker in the name does not make them a good board IMO.

Newegg reviews , mmmm - generally full of numpty's IMO.

Take user reviews with a grain of salt, 95% of people don't leave reviews ,vthe 5 % that do will bebthe ones who have had problems.
90% of those will be down to user error or inexperience.
 

Only thing that makes the installation difficult is the case you install it in, not how the MoBo is built.

As requested, a comparison between AsRock H170A-X1/3.1 and MSI B150 Gaming M3.
(I'll list only the differences.)

Expansion slots
AsRock: 2x PCI-Ex16 (PCIE2: x16 mode, PCIE4: x4 mode); 3x PCI-Ex1 slots
MSI: 2x PCI-Ex16; 2x PCI-Ex1 slots; 3x PCI slots

Storage
AsRock: 6x SATA
MSI: 6x SATA; 1x SATAe; 1x M.2 2280 Key M; 1x TPM header

USB
AsRock: 1x USB 3.1 type-C; 1x USB 3.1 type-A; 8x USB 3.0; 4x USB 2.0
MSI: 6x USB 3.1; 6x USB 2.0

Audio ports (rear)
AsRock: 3x
MSI: 5x; Optical SPDIF

Sources,
AsRock: http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/H170A-X13.1/?cat=Specifications
MSI: https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B150-GAMING-M3.html#hero-specification

And layouts as well:

AsRock
H170A-X13.1(L2).jpg


MSI
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is http://motherboardbenchmark.net/ a good reference site ? are they reliable ?

 
Not really no, their ratings make very little sense at all mate

Your going to get the same actual CPU performance out of just about any locked CPU/locked board combo be it a cheapo h110 or a high end h170.
Makes no difference whatsoever .
Buy the board based on features you may need, looks & component quality - especially the vrm set when youre using an i7.

 


Just look at the spec, msi seems to be much better, am i right ?
 
You'll get more and better features with more expensive MoBo (MSI is about 20 quid more than AsRock).

Also, B-series is oriented for businesses while H-series is for common desktop users. (Z-series is for overclockers, Q-series for corporations and X-series for servers.)

I, personally, prefer MSI.
 

I have no idea what the quality of a motherboard needs in order to match up i7 well.

 
Every board listed is fine for the i7 mate,if you really want to go for the msi ,go right ahead - its decent enough quality in all fairness.
The days of b series for business,h for general rigs,z for enthusiast rigs doesnt really stand anymore.
MAnufacturers put more & more features on lower end chipsets now that its pretty much a free for all.
NOt really a difference between b150 & h170 anymore.

IM just thinking that if you're still going for the 6700k then just why not drop the money on a 90 quid z series board in case you ever do want to overclock 2 or 3 years down the line.

Yes that b150 is feature laden BUT are you going to run 6 x usb3.1 devices (short of external ssd drives there really isnt any use for it at the moment),youve already picked a standard 850 evo so m2 & sata express are of little interest to you

Features for features sake are pointless if youre not actually going to use them.

The major benefit of the z series board ( apart from the obvious overclocking) is compatibility with faster ram - & faster ram does make a difference with skylake chips,make no mistake about that.

& to put into context if you havent bought that 2133 lpx ram yet you can get 3000mhz for the same price.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-CMK16GX4M2B3000C15-Vengeance-Performance-Desktop/dp/B0134EW7G8/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1476287065&sr=1-1&keywords=ddr4+3000

Up to 103 quid for the motherboard & you can get this gigabyte gaming which is just a really really nice board

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Gigabyte-Z170%C2%A0Gaming-K3%C2%A0EU-1151%C2%A04x-DDR4%C2%A0Max/dp/B01AUSEBHE/ref=as_li_ss_tl?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1462895288&sr=1-1&keywords=Gigabyte+Z170-Gaming+K3&linkCode=sl1&tag=trroundup-21&linkId=d8d271ee0b1904a159a4381b61f7c726
 


I decided to go for the ASRock H170A X1 mate. thank you for the support
 


What happen to the ASRock H170A-X1 on amazon ? it says Windows 8.1 included in technical detail

 


I'm thinking about going for the MSI H170 gaming mate 3, For £88
 


Really? I haven't heard this. My MSI Z97 board is still running pretty strong. Is this only on Z170? Definitely agree on Asrock.

Newegg reviews , mmmm - generally full of numpty's IMO.

Take user reviews with a grain of salt, 95% of people don't leave reviews ,vthe 5 % that do will bebthe ones who have had problems.
90% of those will be down to user error or inexperience.

Definitely agree here. I saw a Newegg review on a laptop I was looking at that was really the definition of why I am not fond of store reviews. :lol:
 


looks a good board in all honesty - i have a bit of disdain for msi boards mate so am somewhat biased,good higher end baords,poor low end boards - thats msi.
That board is squarely in the middle.
still think for another 15 quid id personally stump for the gigabyte z170 (especially if you havent purchased the ram yet)

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Gigabyte-Z170-GAMING-Socket-Express-Motherboard/dp/B01AUSEBHE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1476425863&sr=8-1&keywords=gigabyte+z170

but yeah,the msi will do the job fine - you are overthinking it a little bit in all honesty.




 
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Really? I haven't heard this. My MSI Z97 board is still running pretty strong. Is this only on Z170? Definitely agree on Asrock.

Some wierd things with the skylake boards from msi,you relly do have to check compatibility becasue a lot of these boards were released with first revision bios's that only support half the skylake chips.
I dont understand that because there havent really been any refresh chips like haswell,all the skylakes were pretty much released at the same time.
Yes there have been bios updates after but if you get a board with an older bios from the factory then you are still laying a guressing game.
That h170 board for instance 'may' require an update to run the 6100 - & thats the first skylake chip that was released to my knowledge??