my new computer

[krimy]

well it cant convert to canada cuse they CAN'T ship it into canada ... but its still dumb but wait ill try to convert it .... 1,731.70 CAD .... thats whats it is ... its still alot lower than what i actually pay in here .... its just dumb ....

 

[PCAnalyst]

About .80 to .85 on the C - dollar right now. so 15 to 20% diff higher in Can... plus thier rates of purchase do not match the US with shipping and customs factored in.

And you don't have to use that value RAM on that board... you most certainly could use higher quality RAM if you like.

G.Skill, OCZ, Geil, Patriot makes some good stuff for around $240 USD.

 

[krimy]

okay so after OTHER changes ( must be the 5th time today ) i came up with this computer .... tell me what you think about it !

case : Thermaltake Black Armor Full-Tower ATX Case with 11 External Drive Bays, Clear Side

mobo : Asus P5B Intel Socket 775 ATX Motherboard / Audio / PCI Express / Gigabit LAN /

proc : Intel Core 2 Duo E6400 2.13GHz / 2MB Cache / 1066MHz FSB / Dual-Core / Socket 775 /

psu : Thermaltake / ToughPower / 700-Watt / ATX / 140mm Fan / SATA Ready / SLI Ready /

hard-drive : Western Digital / Caviar SE / 250GB / 7200 / 8MB / SATA-300 / OEM / Hard Drive

video : EVGA GeForce 7600 GT KO / 256MB GDDR3 / SLI / PCI Express / Dual DVI / HDTV /

ram : OCZ Dual Channel Gold XTC 2048MB PC8000 DDR2 1000MHz Memory (2 x 1024MB

screen : LG L1932TX-SF / 19" / Anti-Ghosting 4ms / 1400:1 / Silver-Charcoal / DVI-VGA

so this WHOLE computer + taxes + shipping goes to 2224.35$ Canadian ... its good for me but i was wondering what you think about it !

 

[Eurasianman]

Yea, that's pretty messed up. Well, if you have a buddy in the US, have him order the parts and put the majority of the stuff together. Just be sure he leaves the cards (graphics card, sound card, etc.) unplugged and bubble wrap as well as the CPU heatsink and that should work.

 

[krimy]

but what do you think about it ?? ..... i mean for all the pieces and all ... is it any good ? or what should i change ???

 

[Eurasianman]

okay so after OTHER changes ( must be the 5th time today ) i came up with this computer .... tell me what you think about it !

case : Thermaltake Black Armor Full-Tower ATX Case with 11 External Drive Bays, Clear Side

mobo : Asus P5B Intel Socket 775 ATX Motherboard / Audio / PCI Express / Gigabit LAN /

proc : Intel Core 2 Duo E6400 2.13GHz / 2MB Cache / 1066MHz FSB / Dual-Core / Socket 775 /

psu : Thermaltake / ToughPower / 700-Watt / ATX / 140mm Fan / SATA Ready / SLI Ready /

hard-drive : Western Digital / Caviar SE / 250GB / 7200 / 8MB / SATA-300 / OEM / Hard Drive

video : EVGA GeForce 7600 GT KO / 256MB GDDR3 / SLI / PCI Express / Dual DVI / HDTV /

ram : OCZ Dual Channel Gold XTC 2048MB PC8000 DDR2 1000MHz Memory (2 x 1024MB

screen : LG L1932TX-SF / 19" / Anti-Ghosting 4ms / 1400:1 / Silver-Charcoal / DVI-VGA

so this WHOLE computer + taxes + shipping goes to 2224.35$ Canadian ... its good for me but i was wondering what you think about it !

These are all my opinions!

Case: Good

Mobo: Eh, might want to opt for the P5B Deluxe. It'll be about $50 US more.

Processor: Good

PSU: Good

Hard Drive: This is normally user's preference. I like Seagates because they're smaller and quieter than the Western Digital drives I've owned.

Video: Fine. Since it's eVGA, you should be able to upgrade with no hassles. (Someone correct me if I'm wrong)

Ram: 2 GB is good! This will definitely allow for some overclocking. Else, DDR2 667 MHz or DDR2 800 MHz will be fine

Screen: If you like it, go for it. A little pricey. Might want to look into WideScreens since it's the "new thing". Also, try and find HDCP for future proof

Overall, nice! 8)

 

[krimy]

well got any ideas on the screen i should get .... cuse of course its for gaming ... i mean the big point of this computer is for gaming .... after that .... whats the big difference between the deluxe and the normal 1 ... and for the hard-drive let me look at the price real quick ..... and thanks alot

 

[Eurasianman]

The P5B doesn't have RAID capability where as the P5B Deluxe and the P5B Delixe w/ WIFI do. Just in case in the near future, you wish to do RAID 0 or RAID 1.

Monitors... how much are you willing to spend? LOL! I got my Samsung SyncMaster 940BW for $215 after tax (special Best Buy deal) It's a 19" WS with 5ms GTG. No ghosting at all and no dead pixels. Very vibrant and awesome in games. I've played F.E.A.R., Oblivion, Just Cause, Rainbox Six Vegas, Battlefield 2, Battlefield 2142, and just about every Steam game available and no issues at all. My only gripe is with FEAR, Just Cause, and Rainbow Six not supporting WS. Other than that, try for a 19" - 20" WS monitor Or buy a cheap monitor and wait for the newer ones to come out

 

[krimy]

yeah well im not into all that widescreen stuff .... i mean for games and stuff ... if i play 1024x768 (i think thats what it is )... its not the best thing .... i mean for 1st person shooter games .... and yeah for the mobo ... whats the WI/Fi on the mobo isnt it only on the notebook .... i mean how could you have an integrated wi-fi on your desktop motherboard ?

 

[Eurasianman]

I believe it uses a PCI Express slot. There's a site that shows you how to remove it if you wish. I have in integrated onto my motherboard, but I don't use it. Don't need it.

 

[PCAnalyst]

okay so after OTHER changes ( must be the 5th time today ) i came up with this computer .... tell me what you think about it !

case : Thermaltake Black Armor Full-Tower ATX Case with 11 External Drive Bays, Clear Side

mobo : Asus P5B Intel Socket 775 ATX Motherboard / Audio / PCI Express / Gigabit LAN /

proc : Intel Core 2 Duo E6400 2.13GHz / 2MB Cache / 1066MHz FSB / Dual-Core / Socket 775 /

psu : Thermaltake / ToughPower / 700-Watt / ATX / 140mm Fan / SATA Ready / SLI Ready /

hard-drive : Western Digital / Caviar SE / 250GB / 7200 / 8MB / SATA-300 / OEM / Hard Drive

video : EVGA GeForce 7600 GT KO / 256MB GDDR3 / SLI / PCI Express / Dual DVI / HDTV /

ram : OCZ Dual Channel Gold XTC 2048MB PC8000 DDR2 1000MHz Memory (2 x 1024MB

screen : LG L1932TX-SF / 19" / Anti-Ghosting 4ms / 1400:1 / Silver-Charcoal / DVI-VGA

so this WHOLE computer + taxes + shipping goes to 2224.35$ Canadian ... its good for me but i was wondering what you think about it !

Whoa man.... what was wrong with the Antec Truepower PSU you had picked out... that was by far plenty of high quality power!

And the RAM... you would do better with staying in the DDRII 800 area even with overclocks... the little bit of edge you get from higher RAM will not be noticable.

And get the Delux model of the Mobo as suggested by Eurasianman (good Catch) if you are doing RAID.

 

[chiefgabbai]

Video: Fine. Since it's eVGA, you should be able to upgrade with no hassles. (Someone correct me if I'm wrong)

I looked at eVGA's website and their upgrade (as they call it - Step-Up program) is good only for 90 days from the time you buy your card. Within 90 days you can upgrade to a better card. I don't know how they figure prices on the old for credit and if they charge MSRP for the new. So it might a great marketing tool, but in practice may be useless. If someone has used it, you might want to chime in.

 

[krimy]

yeah well ... its because i didnt knew if the ANTEC truepower 650watts was gonna fit in the thermaltake case ... and if so well i couldnt find it on my compagny website .... ( tigerdirect.ca ) and also ... well i tryed to get the valueram from tigerdirect too and couldnt find it ... so i went with the thing that was the closest to what i was looking for ....

 

[PCAnalyst]

yeah well ... its because i didnt knew if the ANTEC truepower 650watts was gonna fit in the thermaltake case ... and if so well i couldnt find it on my compagny website .... ( tigerdirect.ca ) and also ... well i tryed to get the valueram from tigerdirect too and couldnt find it ... so i went with the thing that was the closest to what i was looking for ....

Ahh... I C.... The antec is SLI certified if that matters to ya.

Isn't the TT case a Full Tower? PSU should fit in there...

I'll give a look through Tiger CA and see if I can dig up some optional RAM. There should be some Corsair C4 stuff you might consider.

Whats your budget on RAM?

 

[PCAnalyst]

Is THIS too Much?

or Even These?

 

[krimy]

ima be real honest with you ... my buisness is around 2250$ Canadian ... so i dont really care the rams i got right now on the computer

OCZ Dual Channel Gold XTC 2048MB PC8000 DDR2 1000MHz Memory (2 x 1024MB

cost 425.99$ Canadian dollars

so i dont really care ... you could get me anything that would do just fine with it lower and i would love it ... as long as its good in 1st person shooter games ....

my goal is to play CS , CS-Source , Battlefield2 , Call of duty 3 , Quake4 , Doom3 , Half-life2 , Farcry , Fear , etc. ....

so anything good that can run those would be fine

 

[krimy]

but some people say that they are picky on the memory ( the asus p5b-deluxe wifi/ap ) you can actually read it on the newegg site

heres the link : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131028

in the overview the 2nd guy talks about it ... to be honest i dont really know whats the big difference in timming and stuff ... so if you understand thats nice please let me know if it all gonna work out !

 

[krimy]

i also thought about this memory ... tell me if its any good ....

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1882393&sku=O261-8032

 

[krimy]

so what do yall think of this .... i updated it with all the pricing ( remember its in canadian money ) ... i also dropped the screen ... cuse i figured that it wasnt really usefull for now .... i can stick with my old CRT for at least 1 year so i dont really care ima just buy it later on .... so just tell me what yall think of this !

case : Thermaltake Black Armor Full-Tower ATX Case with 11 External Drive Bays, Clear Side, 184.99$

mobo : Asus P5B Deluxe Wifi-AP Intel Socket 775 ATX Motherboard / Audio / PCI Express / 279.99$

proc : Intel Core 2 Duo E6400 2.13GHz / 2MB Cache / 1066MHz FSB / Dual-Core / Socket 775 / 290.00$

psu : Thermaltake / ToughPower / 700-Watt / ATX / 140mm Fan / SATA Ready / SLI Ready / 203.99$

hard-drive : Seagate / Barracuda 7200.9 / 160GB / 7200 / 8MB / SATA-300 / OEM / Hard Drive 82.99$

hard-drive2: Seagate / Barracuda 7200.9 / 160GB / 7200 / 8MB / SATA-300 / OEM / Hard Drive 82.99$

video : EVGA GeForce 7600 GT KO / 256MB GDDR3 / SLI / PCI Express / Dual DVI / HDTV / 184.99$

ram : OCZ Dual Channel XTC 2048MB PC5400 DDR2 667MHz Gamer Memory (2 x 1024MB) 259.97$


total : 1803.92$

this is all canadian money ... all payed + taxes + shipping it goes to a total of 1803.92$. should i get this or should i work some other stuff ???

 

[bloodandsoil]

Why not go for the Barracuda 7200.10 instead of the 7200.9?

 

[NamelessMC]

Okay I don't mean to make an already time-consuming process more time-consuming, but I thought I'd throw this out there.

I've heard nothing but great things about the OCZ GameXstream 700 Power Supply.

If you can try to find that, I guarantee it's comparable in price to what you picked out already. (It has something like 38A @ 12v)

P5B Deluxe as others have mentioned, great for over-clocking, which is what you want to do with the E6400. (Not worth it to get a 6400 unless you're for SURE over-clocking. Stock speeds it's neck and neck with the 6300.)

As far as hard drives, I really never noticed a difference at ALL when using a raid 0 over regular SATA single drive. The only time you notice a difference is with SCSI drives and I hate those things. They're so small for the speed gain and again, the speed gain isn't noticeable.

There's something crazy like a 500 gigabyte Western Digital SATA drive (3.5gb bandwidth, 16 mb cache) for like 150 on Newegg. Maybe you can find something similar to that at a Canadian outlet.

If you want a good cheap case, since you're using a third party PSU, I recommend finding an Antec Cooler Master 5. It's a mid-tower ATX2.2 form factor case, with excellent cooling capabilities, reliable brand and perfect for what you're setting up.

 

[PCAnalyst]

ima be real honest with you ... my buisness is around 2250$ Canadian ... so i dont really care the rams i got right now on the computer

OCZ Dual Channel Gold XTC 2048MB PC8000 DDR2 1000MHz Memory (2 x 1024MB

cost 425.99$ Canadian dollars

So you certainly have some room

so i dont really care ... you could get me anything that would do just fine with it lower and i would love it ... as long as its good in 1st person shooter games ....

my goal is to play CS , CS-Source , Battlefield2 , Call of duty 3 , Quake4 , Doom3 , Half-life2 , Farcry , Fear , etc. ....

so anything good that can run those would be fine

Thats all I play as well... and you didn't mention Unreal Tournament!!!! the best of all of them... UT2007 coming out in June.

 

[PCAnalyst]

but some people say that they are picky on the memory ( the asus p5b-deluxe wifi/ap ) you can actually read it on the newegg site

heres the link : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131028

in the overview the 2nd guy talks about it ... to be honest i dont really know whats the big difference in timming and stuff ... so if you understand thats nice please let me know if it all gonna work out !

Low Timings are good to have, CL4 is all you need... with timings of 4 - 4 - 4 - 12 or there about... at DDR2 800 speeds.

 

[PCAnalyst]

i also thought about this memory ... tell me if its any good ....

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1882393&sku=O261-8032

Not bad... and if you are not thinking of overclocking your system 1:1 CPU:RAM then those are just right.

 

[PCAnalyst]

so what do yall think of this .... i updated it with all the pricing ( remember its in canadian money ) ... i also dropped the screen ... cuse i figured that it wasnt really usefull for now .... i can stick with my old CRT for at least 1 year so i dont really care ima just buy it later on .... so just tell me what yall think of this !

case : Thermaltake Black Armor Full-Tower ATX Case with 11 External Drive Bays, Clear Side, 184.99$

mobo : Asus P5B Deluxe Wifi-AP Intel Socket 775 ATX Motherboard / Audio / PCI Express / 279.99$

proc : Intel Core 2 Duo E6400 2.13GHz / 2MB Cache / 1066MHz FSB / Dual-Core / Socket 775 / 290.00$

psu : Thermaltake / ToughPower / 700-Watt / ATX / 140mm Fan / SATA Ready / SLI Ready / 203.99$

hard-drive : Seagate / Barracuda 7200.9 / 160GB / 7200 / 8MB / SATA-300 / OEM / Hard Drive 82.99$

hard-drive2: Seagate / Barracuda 7200.9 / 160GB / 7200 / 8MB / SATA-300 / OEM / Hard Drive 82.99$

video : EVGA GeForce 7600 GT KO / 256MB GDDR3 / SLI / PCI Express / Dual DVI / HDTV / 184.99$

ram : OCZ Dual Channel XTC 2048MB PC5400 DDR2 667MHz Gamer Memory (2 x 1024MB) 259.97$


total : 1803.92$

this is all canadian money ... all payed + taxes + shipping it goes to a total of 1803.92$. should i get this or should i work some other stuff ???

I really recommend you going back to your original choice of the Antec TruePower PSU 650W it is completely enough for your system and will save you a few bucks.

You might consider a nice aftermarket cooler if you have some extra cash laying around... Though the Stock CPU Heatsink and Fan are fine even up to moderate Overclocking... If you do decide you want to push your system (And It Will Push Considerably) a Zalman 9500 or 9700, or Tuniq T-120, Scyth(spelling) are some to think about.

Good Price!!!