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oh sorry den my mistake. the PC is not for my own use only altho I game and do video edit. My sister do watch movies and stuff so I gotta get a good sound system. Hence I tot if 2 GTX 285 is sufficent den I could put in a soundcard. About this im not so sure. Waiting for rauchster's reply.
2x 285 GTX in 2-way SLI of either of those models I listed above would power anything and everything you could throw at it. If you don't mind spending the money for them, go for it.
Recommendations for brands for Gfx Cards:
ASUS
MSI
EVGA
Gigabyte
I'm pretty sure it does, but double check that the Corsair 1000W Modular PSU you have chosen has 4x PCI-6pin plugs.
The only reason for going that powerful is if you plan on doing Crysis at 1920x1200+ resolution on Very High settings. I make videos using Adobe After Effects CS3, and have little to no problems on a MSI NX8800GT card. 2x 285GTX is overkill. I can play Crysis on that same card at Medium/High settings at 1680x1050 with about 20-25 FPS, peaking at 45FPS.
In reality a single 285GTX will really be enough to power most everything. But, like I said, if you don't mind the extra expense, do it. You won't regret it.
Recommendations for brands for Gfx Cards:
ASUS
MSI
EVGA
Gigabyte
I'm pretty sure it does, but double check that the Corsair 1000W Modular PSU you have chosen has 4x PCI-6pin plugs.
The only reason for going that powerful is if you plan on doing Crysis at 1920x1200+ resolution on Very High settings. I make videos using Adobe After Effects CS3, and have little to no problems on a MSI NX8800GT card. 2x 285GTX is overkill. I can play Crysis on that same card at Medium/High settings at 1680x1050 with about 20-25 FPS, peaking at 45FPS.
In reality a single 285GTX will really be enough to power most everything. But, like I said, if you don't mind the extra expense, do it. You won't regret it.
rauchster as far as you give me ur advice. Could you clarify my doubts for one last time. Between this 3 Graphic Cards which performance is the best and cheaper? [if possible can u state the prices of each one]
1. EVGA Geforce GTX 285 FTW x 2
2. EVGA Geforce GTX 260 Core 216 x 3
3. ATI Radeon HD 4870 x 2
1. EVGA Geforce GTX 285 FTW x 2
2. EVGA Geforce GTX 260 Core 216 x 3
3. ATI Radeon HD 4870 x 2
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My apologies, I've got to catch up a bit on this thread.
Memory: Memory speed depends on your overclocking strategy and how you set your BIOS timings. On an i7 build, I'd recommend the following, in descending order of preference: Mushkin (link), Corsair Dominator 1600s (link), G.Skill Pi Black (link), G.Skill CL7 (link).
Velociraptor: One 300GB Velociraptor is fine and plenty fast, if you don't need the extra storage space. Partition your drive for better speed, like this:
C: OS
D: Swap file
E: Apps
F: Games
G: Data
Just make sure you backup your data to either a USB stick or DVD+R. Physical drive configuration depends on other factors as well.
CPU cooler: From your list, I'd go with The TRUE 120, non-black edition. It does fit on the eVGA mobo and comes with a backplate and fan that you clip onto the heatsink itself. Don't forget to use Arctic Cooling MX-2 thermal paste to mount it.
SSD: If you want an SSD, look at the OCZ Apex series.
For video card configuration, 2 GTX 285s with an option for the third would be a good route, IMO.
For nVidia cards, my preference would be eVGA, XFX, Asus, in that order.
On the eVGA mobo, run 2 video cards with a PCI soundcard.
If only 2 GTX 285s, then the Corsair 850TX is a sufficient PSU. The 1000HX is for tri-SLI.
You mention video editing--will you be doing HD video editing? If so, then you will need more hardware.
For your video card solution, have a look at these two articles and decide for yourself:
GTX 295 in Quad SLI
3 GTX 260s vs. 2 GTX 280s
Prices in Singapore will be very different from that of the USA, so you'll have to pin those down yourself after you've done your homework.
Memory: Memory speed depends on your overclocking strategy and how you set your BIOS timings. On an i7 build, I'd recommend the following, in descending order of preference: Mushkin (link), Corsair Dominator 1600s (link), G.Skill Pi Black (link), G.Skill CL7 (link).
Velociraptor: One 300GB Velociraptor is fine and plenty fast, if you don't need the extra storage space. Partition your drive for better speed, like this:
C: OS
D: Swap file
E: Apps
F: Games
G: Data
Just make sure you backup your data to either a USB stick or DVD+R. Physical drive configuration depends on other factors as well.
CPU cooler: From your list, I'd go with The TRUE 120, non-black edition. It does fit on the eVGA mobo and comes with a backplate and fan that you clip onto the heatsink itself. Don't forget to use Arctic Cooling MX-2 thermal paste to mount it.
SSD: If you want an SSD, look at the OCZ Apex series.
For video card configuration, 2 GTX 285s with an option for the third would be a good route, IMO.
For nVidia cards, my preference would be eVGA, XFX, Asus, in that order.
On the eVGA mobo, run 2 video cards with a PCI soundcard.
If only 2 GTX 285s, then the Corsair 850TX is a sufficient PSU. The 1000HX is for tri-SLI.
You mention video editing--will you be doing HD video editing? If so, then you will need more hardware.
For your video card solution, have a look at these two articles and decide for yourself:
GTX 295 in Quad SLI
3 GTX 260s vs. 2 GTX 280s
Prices in Singapore will be very different from that of the USA, so you'll have to pin those down yourself after you've done your homework.
Haha nice to have ur advice again Akebono 98. First thing 1st I wont be doing overclocking as I dont have knowledge on doing it plus I fear my new hardwares may wear out or spoil if I do it wrongly. Hence Im looking for a 1333MHz Memory (3 x 2GB).
As for ur this part. What do mean Swap file and Data?
Are u referring to Ultra 120? Because I dont seem to see any True 120 on the website.
As for Graphic cards, Im looking to see which of those graphic card would give me the best performance and also at a cheaper price. The last link u gave me it is a Comparison between GTX 260 and GTX 280 not GTX 285. hehe
As for ur this part. What do mean Swap file and Data?
Are u referring to Ultra 120? Because I dont seem to see any True 120 on the website.
As for Graphic cards, Im looking to see which of those graphic card would give me the best performance and also at a cheaper price. The last link u gave me it is a Comparison between GTX 260 and GTX 280 not GTX 285. hehe
Partitioning in this style doesn't affect your speed or performance in any positive way. All it does is help some data be more secure and separate from others and impose limits on the size.
Regardless of how many partitions are on a drive, there are still only a set number of read/write heads within the drive. Therefore, a 1 partition HDD will run at approx the same speed as a same model HDD with multiple partitions.
The reason you create a completely separate OS drive, is partially for file distinction and retention, but more for utilizing one set of read/write heads for Windows functions/background programs, and utilizing another set of read/write heads for active programs. Thereby halving the total read times for loads/operation is a multi-tasking environment.
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Memory: If you just want DDR3-1333, then get the G.Skill CL7 that I linked above--1333 speed at CAS latency 7.
HDD Partitioning: You partition your HDD into different sections. Everyone has a different approach, but what I've suggested puts the more frequently accessed items on the outside edge of the platter, makes it easier to install a new OS, makes the swap file faster because it runs on the outside edge of the platter and doesn't fragment as much, and by separating your data files into a different partition, makes it simple to backup (e.g. backup the entire G: drive). By your response, I suppose that you might just be running one big partition and that is fine, but what I've suggested is a more advanced trick. Go to the Tom's Hardware Storage Forums if you want to read up on other partitioning methods.
TRUE: In these forums, because we have to keep typing out the names of various parts over and over again, "TRUE" is shorthand for "Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme". See what I mean?
260 vs. 280: Yes, my typo above. What you need to do with those articles I gave you is to read them and extrapolate a bit. GTX 285 is a little faster than 280, and you can also overclock the 260 to approximately 280 levels. Those articles also give you comparisons with the 4870x2, and all of the various configurations. If you want more detail, then you'll have to dig around for a few more benchmarks.
HD Video Editing: Generally, for HD video editing, you would want to have a fast quad core CPU, max RAM and 2 drives in RAID 0 for speed.
HDD Partitioning: You partition your HDD into different sections. Everyone has a different approach, but what I've suggested puts the more frequently accessed items on the outside edge of the platter, makes it easier to install a new OS, makes the swap file faster because it runs on the outside edge of the platter and doesn't fragment as much, and by separating your data files into a different partition, makes it simple to backup (e.g. backup the entire G: drive). By your response, I suppose that you might just be running one big partition and that is fine, but what I've suggested is a more advanced trick. Go to the Tom's Hardware Storage Forums if you want to read up on other partitioning methods.
TRUE: In these forums, because we have to keep typing out the names of various parts over and over again, "TRUE" is shorthand for "Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme". See what I mean?
260 vs. 280: Yes, my typo above. What you need to do with those articles I gave you is to read them and extrapolate a bit. GTX 285 is a little faster than 280, and you can also overclock the 260 to approximately 280 levels. Those articles also give you comparisons with the 4870x2, and all of the various configurations. If you want more detail, then you'll have to dig around for a few more benchmarks.
HD Video Editing: Generally, for HD video editing, you would want to have a fast quad core CPU, max RAM and 2 drives in RAID 0 for speed.
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Video Cards: For video cards, from your 3 options, I'd be inclined to go the GTX 285 route--start with 1 card now and then add a second one later. I think that you will find 1 GTX 285 to be sufficient until newer games come out.
HDD Partitioning: Regarding partitioning, there are physical hard drives (e.g. 2 velociraptors) and there are "virtual" drives (partition 1 Velociraptor into logical drives C and D). You can partition a single physical drive into different logical drives, making the computer think that you have several different hard drives when in fact you only have one. Partitioning serves many purposes, for example, if you separate all of your data into a different partition, then it makes it easier to back up that partition to another drive, etc. Think of it as watertight compartments on a ship.
Sounds like you've been running one big partition all along (everything in C: drive), so if you're happy with that, then don't worry about it and just continue doing what you're doing. You will notice that the people posting to these forums have fairly advanced needs, so we tend to use such configurations to facilitate our PC use.
What might have confused you, judging by your OP, is that a very common hard drive configuration is to use a Velociraptor for OS and apps and then a separate and large terabyte sized drive to store your data files. This way your computer would read C: and D: drives and they would be separate physical drives too. You do this because you want a smaller, faster drive to store things that are frequently accessed, and then a larger capacity drive to store data, because you might have more of it. Since you don't have much data, then it's even better to store it on the Velociraptor because that's a fast drive.
Another analogy goes like this. On your current system, you probably have a folder entitled "Data", under which you might store separate subfolders "Documents", "Movies", "Music", etc. When you break out a separate data partition, then the top level "Data" folder is moved to a separate logical drive (e.g. G: drive in my example above) and that logical drive has nothing on it except your data. So in the future if you want to upgrade to Windows 7 and do a clean install on the OS partition, then your data partition is not affected. Just makes life easier.
It's probably best to not partition your drive unless you know what you're doing. If you want to do this, then you should read up on it first.
HDD Partitioning: Regarding partitioning, there are physical hard drives (e.g. 2 velociraptors) and there are "virtual" drives (partition 1 Velociraptor into logical drives C and D). You can partition a single physical drive into different logical drives, making the computer think that you have several different hard drives when in fact you only have one. Partitioning serves many purposes, for example, if you separate all of your data into a different partition, then it makes it easier to back up that partition to another drive, etc. Think of it as watertight compartments on a ship.
Sounds like you've been running one big partition all along (everything in C: drive), so if you're happy with that, then don't worry about it and just continue doing what you're doing. You will notice that the people posting to these forums have fairly advanced needs, so we tend to use such configurations to facilitate our PC use.
What might have confused you, judging by your OP, is that a very common hard drive configuration is to use a Velociraptor for OS and apps and then a separate and large terabyte sized drive to store your data files. This way your computer would read C: and D: drives and they would be separate physical drives too. You do this because you want a smaller, faster drive to store things that are frequently accessed, and then a larger capacity drive to store data, because you might have more of it. Since you don't have much data, then it's even better to store it on the Velociraptor because that's a fast drive.
Another analogy goes like this. On your current system, you probably have a folder entitled "Data", under which you might store separate subfolders "Documents", "Movies", "Music", etc. When you break out a separate data partition, then the top level "Data" folder is moved to a separate logical drive (e.g. G: drive in my example above) and that logical drive has nothing on it except your data. So in the future if you want to upgrade to Windows 7 and do a clean install on the OS partition, then your data partition is not affected. Just makes life easier.
It's probably best to not partition your drive unless you know what you're doing. If you want to do this, then you should read up on it first.
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+1, and not too well at 16x10, either.
Here's a good place to start on HDD partitioning (Wikipedia): Disk Partitioning entry link.
And here are a few other decent reads:
Radified Partitioning Strategies link
PCStats Beginner's Guide link
Best Practices for Partitioning A Hard Disk link
Unfortunately, the Storage Forum doesn't have a sticky on partitioning. Some of the best information that I've read has just been on various threads discussing user needs. It may be worth your time to dig through some of these (look for ones with "partitioning" in the title) as well.
P.S. It's no trouble at all--that's what these forums are for.
Here's a good place to start on HDD partitioning (Wikipedia): Disk Partitioning entry link.
And here are a few other decent reads:
Radified Partitioning Strategies link
PCStats Beginner's Guide link
Best Practices for Partitioning A Hard Disk link
Unfortunately, the Storage Forum doesn't have a sticky on partitioning. Some of the best information that I've read has just been on various threads discussing user needs. It may be worth your time to dig through some of these (look for ones with "partitioning" in the title) as well.
P.S. It's no trouble at all--that's what these forums are for.
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