[SOLVED] Need help for selecting components.

[Icebreaker8236]

Hello everyone! I am planning to put together a computer which I'll be using for software development and gaming.

In gaming, I mostly play sim-racing titles and I am planning to upgrade my display to a 4K display in the future.

In sim-racing I play iRacing, Assetto Corsa Competizione, Assetto Corsa, F1 2020.

I need some help in finalizing all the components. The components that I have shortlisted are as follows,

CPU: Intel Core i9-11900K
Motherboard: GIGABYTE Z590 AORUS ELITE
RAM: CORSAIR Vengeance RGB Pro 32GB
GPU: MSI GeForce RTX 3070 Gaming X Trio
M.2: SAMSUNG 980 PRO M.2
SSD: WD Blue 3D NAND 2TB
PSU: CORSAIR HX Series HX850
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken Z63 280mm
Case: NZXT H510i

Any suggestions are welcome!

Thanks!

 

[Dj0gany]

Everything is good except the case.
A close front panel with only 1 rear and 1 top exhaust fan isnt something i would put in a 11900K/3070 in.
Also 11900K, for gaming only??
And at 4K?
At 4K, there would be little difference between a 3300X and a 11900K, since that is all on GPU.
That is way overboard.
But with the given "budget", something like this would make way more sense imo:
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-10700K 3.8 GHz 8-Core Processor ($325.64 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i RGB PLATINUM SE 63 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z590 Extreme WiFi 6E ATX LGA1200 Motherboard ($214.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($174.99 @ Best Buy)
Storage: Samsung 970 EVO Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($319.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 3070 8 GB GAMING OC Video Card ($1399.99 @ Monoprice)
Case: Corsair 5000D AIRFLOW ATX Mid Tower Case ($162.56 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2018) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($144.99 @ Best Buy)
Total: $2903.14
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-03-16 15:53 EDT-0400

 

[Eximo]

Probably overkill on the drive. 980 Pro is very good, but do you have storage needs like that? I suggest going down to the 970 Evo if you don't plan on massive data transfers constantly.

Additional SSD is okay, though best to start off small. Or go for a 2TB M.2 SSD to start.

Intel, not a good choice. Rival Ryzen 5800X wipes the floor with it in all but a few tasks. Cheaper motherboards too.

3600Mhz memory would be more in keeping with Ryzen or an overclockable Intel.

HX850 is a little large for the build. A good 650W should do. Though with prices as they are, if it is $180 for 650, why not 850 for $200.

And of course, good luck with getting an RTX 3070.

 

[Eximo]

Only thing Intel has going for it is availability. Though AMD has been doing relatively okay keeping chips in stock the last few days. They were absent early last week.

 

[Icebreaker8236]

Everything is good except the case.
A close front panel with only 1 rear and 1 top exhaust fan isnt something i would put in a 11900K/3070 in.
Also 11900K, for gaming only??
And at 4K?
At 4K, there would be little difference between a 3300X and a 11900K, since that is all on GPU.
That is way overboard.
But with the given "budget", something like this would make way more sense imo:
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-10700K 3.8 GHz 8-Core Processor ($325.64 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i RGB PLATINUM SE 63 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z590 Extreme WiFi 6E ATX LGA1200 Motherboard ($214.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($174.99 @ Best Buy)
Storage: Samsung 970 EVO Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($319.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 3070 8 GB GAMING OC Video Card ($1399.99 @ Monoprice)
Case: Corsair 5000D AIRFLOW ATX Mid Tower Case ($162.56 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2018) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($144.99 @ Best Buy)
Total: $2903.14
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-03-16 15:53 EDT-0400

I thought of 11900K because I am going to use the system for software development as well, and planning to use this computer for a while.

 

[Icebreaker8236]

Probably overkill on the drive. 980 Pro is very good, but do you have storage needs like that? I suggest going down to the 970 Evo if you don't plan on massive data transfers constantly.

Additional SSD is okay, though best to start off small. Or go for a 2TB M.2 SSD to start.

Intel, not a good choice. Rival Ryzen 5800X wipes the floor with it in all but a few tasks. Cheaper motherboards too.

3600Mhz memory would be more in keeping with Ryzen or an overclockable Intel.

HX850 is a little large for the build. A good 650W should do. Though with prices as they are, if it is $180 for 650, why not 850 for $200.

And of course, good luck with getting an RTX 3070.

Noted. I was a little skeptical about Ryzen and AMD because of bad experiences in the past, but after taking a look at it, it seems like a viable option.


PS: Hope I can get one RTX 3070 at a decent price this year

 

[Eximo]

Even if you were picking the fastest consumer chip available, it wouldn't be the Intel.

Heck the 10900k is a 10 core, the 11900k is a an 8 core, so if you wanted throughput, the older chip is faster.

AMD offers a faster 12 core, though that is admittedly still hard to come by.

 

[Eximo]

Only issue I am aware of with Ryzen 5000 and X570 was a small issue with USB, but that has been solved with updates this week.

 

[Dj0gany]

Only issue I am aware of with Ryzen 5000 and X570 was a small issue with USB, but that has been solved with updates this week.

And the BIOS update is needed on all motherboards i believe : )

 

[Eximo]

Yes, B550 as well. I do recall some rumors that it affected B450 with Ryzen 5000 CPUs, but I never saw anything on X470 etc. But if the fix solves a fundamental problem, all the better. PCIe 4.0 and USB conflict or something.

Just odd that it seemed to pop up all of a sudden, when people have had these boards for a good while. Maybe paired with a Windows update, or one of the previous AGESA releases.

Don't own one, so going by second hand knowledge only on this.

 

[Icebreaker8236]

Yes, B550 as well. I do recall some rumors that it affected B450 with Ryzen 5000 CPUs, but I never saw anything on X470 etc. But if the fix solves a fundamental problem, all the better. PCIe 4.0 and USB conflict or something.

Just odd that it seemed to pop up all of a sudden, when people have had these boards for a good while. Maybe paired with a Windows update, or one of the previous AGESA releases.

Don't own one, so going by second hand knowledge only on this.

So, I've been digging around some configurations and came up with this.

Apparently, the motherboard listed here has a USB Flashback capability so I'll be able to flash the BIOS without an older CPU in it.

Let me know what you think about this build.

 

[Dj0gany]

Actually, im having second thoughts on the H700i.
Innitially i wanted to flame you for picking NZXT again, but when i take a closer look at it doesnt seem like THAT bad of a idea.
360mm wont fit, go for 280mm/240mm.
Everything else is good.

 

[Dj0gany]

I take the 360mm part back, it will fit at the front.
But the case has a closed front panel, so imo a 240/280mm AIO mounted on top would cool much better.

 

[Icebreaker8236]

I take the 360mm part back, it will fit at the front.
But the case has a closed front panel, so imo a 240/280mm AIO mounted on top would cool much better.

I see. How about a Kraken Z73 would it be better?

 

[Dj0gany]

The Cappelix has a wider socket support, but that wont matter much to you since both are compatible with AM4.
The cappelix is cheaper, while being more silent, and wider socket support.

 

[Why_Me]

Hello everyone! I am planning to put together a computer which I'll be using for software development and gaming.

In gaming, I mostly play sim-racing titles and I am planning to upgrade my display to a 4K display in the future.

In sim-racing I play iRacing, Assetto Corsa Competizione, Assetto Corsa, F1 2020.

I need some help in finalizing all the components. The components that I have shortlisted are as follows,

CPU: Intel Core i9-11900K
Motherboard: GIGABYTE Z590 AORUS ELITE
RAM: CORSAIR Vengeance RGB Pro 32GB
GPU: MSI GeForce RTX 3070 Gaming X Trio
M.2: SAMSUNG 980 PRO M.2
SSD: WD Blue 3D NAND 2TB
PSU: CORSAIR HX Series HX850
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken Z63 280mm
Case: NZXT H510i

Any suggestions are welcome!

Thanks!

You might want to have a look at the i7 11700K ... same amount of cores for cheaper.

https://www.newegg.com/intel-core-i7-11700k-core-i7-11th-gen/p/N82E16819118233
Intel Core i7-11700K Rocket Lake 8-Core $418.99

And something like this Seasonic psu to save a few more dollars.

https://www.newegg.com/seasonic-focus-gm-series-focus-gm-850-750w/p/N82E16817151231
Seasonic FOCUS GM-850, 850W 80+ Gold, Semi-Modular $126.99

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232885
G.SKILL Aegis 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) CL16 Intel XMP 2.0 $159.99

And with the money saved look into an RTX 3080 if you plan on gaming at 4K.

 

[Icebreaker8236]

You might want to have a look at the i7 11700K ... same amount of cores for cheaper.

https://www.newegg.com/intel-core-i7-11700k-core-i7-11th-gen/p/N82E16819118233
Intel Core i7-11700K Rocket Lake 8-Core $418.99

And something like this Seasonic psu to save a few more dollars.

https://www.newegg.com/seasonic-focus-gm-series-focus-gm-850-750w/p/N82E16817151231
Seasonic FOCUS GM-850, 850W 80+ Gold, Semi-Modular $126.99

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232885
G.SKILL Aegis 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) CL16 Intel XMP 2.0 $159.99

And with the money saved look into an RTX 3080 if you plan on gaming at 4K.

Thanks! Also, if overclocking is not a priority and if I decide to go for a non K CPU, how much of a performance difference does that make?

 

[Dj0gany]

Thanks! Also, if overclocking is not a priority and if I decide to go for a non K CPU, how much of a performance difference does that make?

Depends on the game but not that much.

 

[Why_Me]

Thanks! Also, if overclocking is not a priority and if I decide to go for a non K CPU, how much of a performance difference does that make?

Slim to none although if you feel you need the extra 6 - 8 FPS you can always unlock the block multiplier (turbo boost) .. just make sure you have a decent cpu cooler just like you'd need for an unlocked cpu.

Asrock gave theirs a name (base frequency boost).

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-comet-lake-overclocking-asrock-base-frequency-boost

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S13Pdar7WKE