Question New cpu and motherboard in old setup

[Barrdock]

Hello. My setup is: Cpu:i7 7700K,Gpu:MSI GTX 1080 gaming x(8gb),Motherboard:ASUS STRIX Z270F GAMING,RAM:CORSAIR CMK8GX4M1A2400C14R VENGEANCE LPX DDR4 2400MHZ 64GB,SSD:SAMSUNG 970 EVO,Cpu cooler:CRYORIG H7,PSU:Super flower golden green HX series 750 Watt(SF-750P14XE).Case:Cooler Master CM90-III.My question is:Which i7,i9,Ryzen 7 Ryzen 9 cpu and cpu air cooler with which motherboard can fit to this setup? My budget is 450-500 euros.This pc is used for gaming .Note:GPU Will be changed in the future.

 

[Lutfij]

Which platinum PSU from Seasonic do you have? How old is the PSU in your build? You mentioned the currency but where are you located? Preferred site for purchase? So we can locate something closer to you).

If you want to go with concurrent Intel gear, you'll need at least a 360mm AIO while beefy air coolers can be possible with the AM5 platform Ryzen.

Make and model of your case?(it's to understand any clearance issues you might run into).

 

[Barrdock]

Which platinum PSU from Seasonic do you have? How old is the PSU in your build? You mentioned the currency but where are you located? Preferred site for purchase? So we can locate something closer to you).

If you want to go with concurrent Intel gear, you'll need at least a 360mm AIO while beefy air coolers can be possible with the AM5 platform Ryzen.

Make and model of your case?(it's to understand any clearance issues you might run into).

Sorry i was wrong about my PSU. it's this:

PSU SUPER FLOWER GOLDEN GREEN HX SERIES 750W (SF-750P14XE)​

and its 7 years old. My case is this: CoolerMaster Cm 590 III​ As for cpu i want the best for the rest of hardware but i prefer air coolers.So if i understood what are you saying AMD is my only choice.I just want to keep RAM as it is.I live in Greece and i will buy everything from here but from many local sites.

 

[Barrdock]

This is the site i'll buy everything https://www.skroutz.gr/c/32/cpu-epeksergastes/m/21/AMD.html

 

[geofelt]

Your case is good for air cooling.
You have a 200mm front intake and 171mm height available.

Not a greek reader, but I think you can get a I5-14600K for 300e.
You should be able to find a lga1700 DDR4 motherboard for about 200e.
Nobody overclocks any more; a Z690/Z790 motherboard will be fine.
You may need such to handle 4 sticks of ram.
But, B660 and B760 MATX motherboards are less expensive and some do have 4 ram slots.


You can reuse your DDR4 ram. Intel is not sensitive to ram compatibility.

You would need a lga1700 adapter for your cooler.
But a cooler like the thermalright peerless asassin is a twin tower cooler that might go for 40e.

Your I7-7700K has 8 processing threads and a passmark rating of 9654. That is when all 8 threads are fully utilized.
Not likely to happen unless you play multiplayer games.
The single thread performance rating is2725.

The I5-14600K has 20 threads and a rating of 40395 with a single thread rating of 4294.
Do not try to save a few euros with the 14600KF and not get integrated graphics.
Such pennypinching always seems to bite you when you have GPU issues.

A ryzen build will be competitive on the cpu/mobo price/performance.
But your ram is not likely to be compatible.

Ryzen is different and since you now use intel, you will have fewer issues.

 

[Eximo]

It would be between the 12700K and 13600K myself. Not a huge difference between the 13600K and 14600K to justify the price increase.

With no intention to overclock, 13400 is not a bad choice either.

DDR4 or DDR5, so you have to pick out the proper motherboard if you want to keep your DDR4. Otherwise you should be able to squeeze in some 5600-6400 CL28-32 DDR5.

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

Hey there,

If you purely for gaming, you could also opt for last gen Ryzen in the same way the guys above have suggested a 12th/13th gen Intel.

Something like this, and factoring faster ram, you could go this way:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5700X 3.4 GHz 8-Core Processor ($160.85 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($36.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK MAX WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard ($149.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory ($94.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $442.73
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-07-25 10:26 EDT-0400

Neither the Intel or AMD have much options for upgrading due to being last gen. But, you still get great gaming chops relatively cheaply.

 

[Barrdock]

Your case is good for air cooling.
You have a 200mm front intake and 171mm height available.

Not a greek reader, but I think you can get a I5-14600K for 300e.
You should be able to find a lga1700 DDR4 motherboard for about 200e.
Nobody overclocks any more; a Z690/Z790 motherboard will be fine.
You may need such to handle 4 sticks of ram.
But, B660 and B760 MATX motherboards are less expensive and some do have 4 ram slots.


You can reuse your DDR4 ram. Intel is not sensitive to ram compatibility.

You would need a lga1700 adapter for your cooler.
But a cooler like the thermalright peerless asassin is a twin tower cooler that might go for 40e.

Your I7-7700K has 8 processing threads and a passmark rating of 9654. That is when all 8 threads are fully utilized.
Not likely to happen unless you play multiplayer games.
The single thread performance rating is2725.

The I5-14600K has 20 threads and a rating of 40395 with a single thread rating of 4294.
Do not try to save a few euros with the 14600KF and not get integrated graphics.
Such pennypinching always seems to bite you when you have GPU issues.

A ryzen build will be competitive on the cpu/mobo price/performance.
But your ram is not likely to be compatible.

Ryzen is different and since you now use intel, you will have fewer issues.

Can i buy i7 13700k or 14700k if i want to reuse my ram or i5 14600K is my only choice?

 

[Barrdock]

It would be between the 12700K and 13600K myself. Not a huge difference between the 13600K and 14600K to justify the price increase.

With no intention to overclock, 13400 is not a bad choice either.

DDR4 or DDR5, so you have to pick out the proper motherboard if you want to keep your DDR4. Otherwise you should be able to squeeze in some 5600-6400 CL28-32 DDR5.

if i want to keep my DDR4 12700K is the best i7 i can use?I'am also thinking about i9 12900.

 

[Barrdock]

Hey there,

If you purely for gaming, you could also opt for last gen Ryzen in the same way the guys above have suggested a 12th/13th gen Intel.

Something like this, and factoring faster ram, you could go this way:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5700X 3.4 GHz 8-Core Processor ($160.85 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($36.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK MAX WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard ($149.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory ($94.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $442.73
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-07-25 10:26 EDT-0400

Neither the Intel or AMD have much options for upgrading due to being last gen. But, you still get great gaming chops relatively cheaply.

I would like to keep my ddr4.But is there a motherboard for lga1700 socket compatible with ddr4 and ddr5 if i want to upgrade to ddr5 in the future?

 

[Eximo]

if i want to keep my DDR4 12700K is the best i7 i can use?I'am also thinking about i9 12900.

Best would be the i7-14700k or i7-14900k, but your budget will have to include a motherboard, so the 12700k, 13600k or 13700k make more sense.

i9-12900k and the i7-13700k are functionally equivalent, both 8P core 8 E core chips, minor clock speed differences. 14700k has 8P cores and 12E cores. 13900k/14900k have 8P cores and 16E cores. Useful for multitasking, but not so much for gaming.

Cryorig H7 may not work with LGA1700 either, so you may need to invest in a replacement cooler. Some motherboards have dual LGA1200 and LGA1700 holes. If they look weird and elongated, they are usually the dual ones.

See this ASUS Prime board picture, you can easily see the double hole set:

https://webobjects2.cdw.com/is/image/CDW/7342057?$product-detail$

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

I would like to keep my ddr4.But is there a motherboard for lga1700 socket compatible with ddr4 and ddr5 if i want to upgrade to ddr5 in the future?

DDR4 2400mhz is not gonna help any new system it will be the slowest component which will effect how the system runs. It is very slow. As you can see from the link, faster ram is quite reasonably priced.

 

[Eximo]

I would like to keep my ddr4.But is there a motherboard for lga1700 socket compatible with ddr4 and ddr5 if i want to upgrade to ddr5 in the future?

No motherboards are either DDR4 or DDR5, not both.

64GB is a lot to throw out though. But if you keep it with the original motherboard it is at least a usable core system.

You can also try overclocking that memory now to see if you can push it to 2666 or 3000.

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

64GB is a lot to throw out though. But if you keep it with the original motherboard it is at least a usable core system.

You can also try overclocking that memory now to see if you can push it to 2666 or 3000.

I don't disagree with you necessarily, just that the difference between 2400mhz ram and 3600mhz is a lot of performance to leave behind. In some games it's about 30% performance. I'd rather have 32gb of 3600/CL16 ram than 64gb 2400mhz. The extra ram won't affect gaming at all.

Of course the OP could simply sell the 64gb, which will ease the purse strings further for getting faster ram and more FPS, given this is a gaming machine.

I wouldn't recommend trying to overclock standard ram, as they are simply not designed to run at 3200/3600mhz ram, even if you pump the voltage way up.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtAFg9Vg3UY

 

[Barrdock]

DDR4 2400mhz is not gonna help any new system it will be the slowest component which will effect how the system runs. It is very slow. As you can see from the link, faster ram is quite reasonably priced.

DDR4 with 4000 mhz 32 GB with 70 euros is a good choice?https://www.skroutz.gr/s/27203926/G...ytita-4000-gia-Desktop-F4-4000C18D-32GVK.html

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

Yes, this should work okay.