[SOLVED] New cpu

[benmills45]

Hi everyone, i'm not sure what to do with upgrading my cpu and wanted some help ( my current pcpartpicker list -https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/HxrwQq )
i currently play on a 1080p 60hz monitor but will be upgrading to either 1080p 144hz or 1440p 60hz, i'm not sure if i could play 1440p 144hz
i was thinking about buying a used i7 6700 or 7700 to go with my 2060 or should i sell my motherboard and buy newer hardware?
i play mostly single player games such as far cry 5 and f1 2020.
Any 27inch monitor suggestions would be great too
thanks,
ben

 

[logainofhades]

I would sell what you have, and buy new. With 4th gen Ryzen coming, you may want to wait, but if not a couple of options.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor (£164.97 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool GAMMAXX GTE V2 64.5 CFM CPU Cooler (£32.47 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B550 GAMING X ATX AM4 Motherboard (£134.99 @ AWD-IT)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory (£92.99 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £425.42
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-08-19 21:16 BST+0100

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PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-10600K 4.1 GHz 6-Core Processor (£236.40 @ Technextday)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H5 Universal 65 CFM CPU Cooler (£45.99 @ Currys PC World)
Motherboard: Gigabyte Z490 GAMING X ATX LGA1200 Motherboard (£168.18 @ CCL Computers)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory (£92.99 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £543.56
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-08-19 21:19 BST+0100

I would also recommend a higher quality PSU. Coolermaster PSU's are not very good.

PCPartPicker Part List

Power Supply: Corsair TXM Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply (£79.98 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £79.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-08-19 21:18 BST+0100

 

[tennis2]

You definitely want a minimum of 4c/8t these days. Unfortunately, that's currently a Ryzen 3300X / Intel i3-1030. Both of which are pretty cheap compared to a used 6th or 7th gen i7.

The downside is having to upgrade your mobo (and ideally your RAM since yours is only 2400MHz)

To get your money's worth out of a platform upgrade, I'd shoot for a 6c/12t Ryzen 3600 or 10th gen Intel i5

 

[Turtle Rig]

You have to make up your mind is it 1080p or 2k resolution ? Also the last thing you want is 2k resolution at 60hz. So it seems as tho you are a 1080p 144hz gamer. If that is the case your video card is fine and your CPU is fine as well if your overclock it that is. Now if you get a newer CPU your frame rate will go up at 1080p but not buy a lot fo you to even notice. If you get 90fps lowest area in a game. Then with a CPU upgarde you will get maybe 110 or 115FPS. If that is worth it to you at this moment which I don't think you should do then by all means upgrade and get a AMD or Intel build. Go AMD if you are on a tight budget and go Intel if you don't mind spending money and what not. 😜🙉

 

[logainofhades]

You have to make up your mind is it 1080p or 2k resolution ? Also the last thing you want is 2k resolution at 60hz. So it seems as tho you are a 1080p 144hz gamer. If that is the case your video card is fine and your CPU is fine as well if your overclock it that is. Now if you get a newer CPU your frame rate will go up at 1080p but not buy a lot fo you to even notice. If you get 90fps lowest area in a game. Then with a CPU upgarde you will get maybe 110 or 115FPS. If that is worth it to you at this moment which I don't think you should do then by all means upgrade and get a AMD or Intel build. Go AMD if you are on a tight budget and go Intel if you don't mind spending money and what not. 😜🙉

For modern titles, 4c/4t gaming is essentially dead. 4c/8t, like an older 6700k/7700k, or a more modern 3300x would have is really the new minimum, with 6c/12t being the sweet spot, for price/performance. If you want to do more than game, or want to ensure a bit of headroom, as games take more advantage of cores/threads, then my earlier recommendation, of the 10600k would be replaced with a 3700x.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor (£281.94 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B550 GAMING X ATX AM4 Motherboard (£134.99 @ AWD-IT)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory (£92.99 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £509.92
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-08-19 21:40 BST+0100

 

[Turtle Rig]

For modern titles, 4c/4t gaming is essentially dead. 4c/8t, like an older 6700k/7700k, or a more modern 3300x would have is really the new minimum, with 6c/12t being the sweet spot, for price/performance. If you want to do more than game, or want to ensure a bit of headroom, as games take more advantage of cores/threads, then my earlier recommendation, of the 10600k would be replaced with a 3700x.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor (£281.94 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B550 GAMING X ATX AM4 Motherboard (£134.99 @ AWD-IT)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory (£92.99 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £509.92
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-08-19 21:40 BST+0100

I must agree with the moderator. I used to have a 4930k at 4.5Ghz with my current video card it is six core 12 threads and my CPU usage while gaming was 20 to 60 percent depending on the game and I got my triple digits FPS with all nVidia panel settings turned on to the max and using all AA methods MSAA and so on and in game highest or Ultra details at 2k resolution. This is why I say his 7700k is good but yes its a quad core model and that will hurt. This is why the 8700k came out. Which is still relevant for gaming as it gives about the same perfformance as current gen CPU's and is a darling of a CPU. Anyhow nice parts list my friend. The 3700x will really bring up his FPS and since it is a AMD system at minimum he needs a 3600Mhz kit which you got him. 16GB is the bare minimum IMO. You go higher then that you get more cache so he can open apps fast and multitask and what not and guarantee no stutter in games especially with ton of stuff loaded in the system tray and what not. I guess he can fill in those two other slots one day when he feels like it. That is also a good enough motherboard for the 3700x you picked him. He will have no issues and enjoy his gaming. 👍👌

 

[tennis2]

My brother and I have the same RX480 GPU. He's got an i5-4590K and I have an i7-3770. We're both running at around 4.3GHz. He's 2560x1080 and I'm at 2560x1440.

We play Destiny 2 together, we use the same quality settings. I get around 90FPS and he's around 70FPS. And I'm pushing more pixels! The hyperthreading (extra threads) is a significant advantage obviously.

 

[Turtle Rig]

My brother and I have the same RX480 GPU. He's got an i5-4590K and I have an i7-3770. We're both running at around 4.3GHz. He's 2560x1080 and I'm at 2560x1440.

We play Destiny 2 together, we use the same quality settings. I get around 90FPS and he's around 70FPS. And I'm pushing more pixels! The hyperthreading (extra threads) is a significant advantage obviously.

Yes my friend altough most games and I mean most do not fully support HTing or SMTing it still doesn't matter and they will get some usage inside of games as the CPU is not dependent on anything however the GPU is dependent on the graphics which has nothing to do with having more threads. However since the CPU is so responsible for a lot of in game things like AI, Sound, Music, In game weapons and objects then yes you will get about 20FPS more then him. Also I really suggest going to a RX 580 one day along with your brother as that will really boost things up big time and not allow for dips under 60fps in certain areas of a map. You can buy used for a really good price perhaps you can do it one person at a time and I promise a big boost in performance. ✝

 

[benmills45]

Hi everyone just want to thank you all for your replies.
I have attached a screenshot of my i5 6400 bottlenecking really bad in far cry 5 - the low clock speed is killing me.

https://imgur.com/a/1oYWKfx

View: https://imgur.com/a/1oYWKfx

I'm still a bit undecided about what resolution i want to play at- is 144hz really that good?
I will be waiting a few weeks before buying any new hardware as i will be going on holiday soon.
Hopefully ryzen prices come down a bit by then. my budget for cpu and motherboard is around £300
Do you think a ram upgrade is really worth it? I have a small OC to 2666Mhz
unfortunately i bought ram in 2018 when the prices were through the roof :/
i had a corsair 650w psu that died within a few month but my current psu has been fine.
Once again thank you all for replying.
thanks,
Ben

 

[tennis2]

Also I really suggest going to a RX 580 one day along with your brother as that will really boost things up big time and not allow for dips under 60fps in certain areas of a map.

RX480 = RX580. The only difference is frequency, which I can easily hit 1400+MHz on my RX480 without any power or thermal throttling.

Also, despite it being an EXACT side-grade, an RX580 is not a good performance tier for 1440p gaming.

 

[Turtle Rig]

RX480 = RX580. The only difference is frequency, which I can easily hit 1400+MHz on my RX480 without any power or thermal throttling.

Also, despite it being an EXACT side-grade, an RX580 is not a good performance tier for 1440p gaming.

That is true tennis2 guru. Sorta how a 570 = a 580. But facts are fact its one generation newer so your guaranteed higher FPS without a overclock and also frequency Mhz isn't everything as even the new 3080Ti that is coming out next month as similar Mhz GPU and Memory clock specs as a 2080Ti. If you want a over the board upgarde try a 1660Ti one day. But go one brother at a time. ✝😷

 

[tennis2]

This is getting to be a side-rant, I should probably do this as a PM, but...

No....literally an RX580 = RX480. The chips are identical, resources and all. An RX580 is a factory OC'd RX480. You can simply flash an RX480 vBIOS to an RX580.

For 1440p I always recommend RTX2060/5600XT as a minimum these days. Can you get away with less?, yes, obviously, I'm an example of that, but you're gonna have to sacrifice quality settings to maintain decent FPS in more demanding games.