Build Advice New GPU but it's being held back, what needs to change?

[conorcharleskelly]

I've had this PC since 2018 and have been making upgrades here and there when possible.
At present these are my specs:

GIGABYTE AB350 Gaming - DDR4 ATX Motherboard

Ryzen 5 2600 CPU

ROG-STRIX-850G (850W)

Corsair VENGEANCE PRO DDR4 RAM 16GB (2x8GB) 3200MHz

XFX Speedster MERC319 RX 6950XT (16gb)

1TB Seagate Barracuda ST1000DM010 - 3.5" Hard Drive/HDD

Samsung 860 EVO 500 GB SSD

OS: Windows 10

GPU drivers are up to date

I bought this new GPU, the RX 6950 XT, in April this year aiming to get better fps in big titles like cyberpunk and also the less graphic intensive League of Legends.

While I can play cyberpunk at high settings and get 80 frames, when I try to go higher my PC really struggles and even at high settings my GPU gets incredibly loud and the heat the fans produce is pretty hot.

More worrying is that I haven't seen much of a performance increase in LOL at all. At low settings and stationary I reach 144fps, but when i start moving and for the entire rest of the game I am getting constant frame drops down to 70 and sometimes even 50 frames.

From what I've seen, and the price of the card, I feel I should be able to get a lot more out of the card. I'm fairly certain my CPU is bottle necking the GPU but is there anything else?

What can I upgrade this Christmas season to get the most out of this card, and what should I upgrade to?

Cheers for any help!

 

[Order 66]

The CPU is probably limiting your GPU. (I don't like the word bottleneck because it is so misused.) What are your temps? I would definitely upgrade your CPU to maybe a 7600x. you will need new RAM though since AM5 only supports DDR5.

 

[geofelt]

There is always a limiting factor, usually cpu or gpu.
Your results suggest a cpu limitation.

Single thread performance of the master thread is critical.
Run the cpu-Z bench and look at the single thread performance rating.
You should see about 475:

CPU-Z Benchmark for AMD Ryzen 5 2600 (1T) - CPU-Z VALIDATOR

Best CPU performance - 64-bit - October 2023

valid.x86.fr

 

[conorcharleskelly]

The CPU is probably limiting your GPU. (I don't like the word bottleneck because it is so misused.) What are your temps? I would definitely upgrade your CPU to maybe a 7600x. you will need new RAM though since AM5 only supports DDR5.

How detrimental is it to stick with the AM4 platform. I've seen a few issues with AM5 and the performance increase seems to be very minimal, at least at this stage.
I would love to be able to keep my current AM4 motherboard just to save myself the trouble of having to take everything out and then re wire it all.
For AM4 is the Ryzen 7 5800X any good?

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[Order 66]

How detrimental is it to stick with the AM4 platform. I've seen a few issues with AM5 and the performance increase seems to be very minimal, at least at this stage.
I would love to be able to keep my current AM4 motherboard just to save myself the trouble of having to take everything out and then re wire it all.
For AM4 is the Ryzen 7 5800X any good?

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With AM4, you don't have any future upgrade path. With AM5, you get at least another generation maybe even two more generations of CPUs. The 2600 scores about 7500 in cinebench r23 and the 7600x scores about 15000. going from the 2600 to a 7600x is a huge jump in performance. The 5800x will be better, but then you don't really have an upgrade path.

 

[Bob.B]

How detrimental is it to stick with the AM4 platform. I've seen a few issues with AM5 and the performance increase seems to be very minimal, at least at this stage.
I would love to be able to keep my current AM4 motherboard just to save myself the trouble of having to take everything out and then re wire it all.
For AM4 is the Ryzen 7 5800X any good?

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How fat is your wallet?
Look at the 5800x3d.

 

[Zerk2012]

I've had this PC since 2018 and have been making upgrades here and there when possible.
At present these are my specs:

GIGABYTE AB350 Gaming - DDR4 ATX Motherboard

Ryzen 5 2600 CPU

ROG-STRIX-850G (850W)

Corsair VENGEANCE PRO DDR4 RAM 16GB (2x8GB) 3200MHz

XFX Speedster MERC319 RX 6950XT (16gb)

1TB Seagate Barracuda ST1000DM010 - 3.5" Hard Drive/HDD

Samsung 860 EVO 500 GB SSD

OS: Windows 10

GPU drivers are up to date

I bought this new GPU, the RX 6950 XT, in April this year aiming to get better fps in big titles like cyberpunk and also the less graphic intensive League of Legends.

While I can play cyberpunk at high settings and get 80 frames, when I try to go higher my PC really struggles and even at high settings my GPU gets incredibly loud and the heat the fans produce is pretty hot.

More worrying is that I haven't seen much of a performance increase in LOL at all. At low settings and stationary I reach 144fps, but when i start moving and for the entire rest of the game I am getting constant frame drops down to 70 and sometimes even 50 frames.

From what I've seen, and the price of the card, I feel I should be able to get a lot more out of the card. I'm fairly certain my CPU is bottle necking the GPU but is there anything else?

What can I upgrade this Christmas season to get the most out of this card, and what should I upgrade to?

Cheers for any help!

5700X is a good upgrade 180 bucks but you need to buy a decent cooler for it. About 50% faster than what you have.

https://www.amazon.com/AMD-5700X-16-Thread-Unlocked-Processor/dp/B09VCHQHZ6?th=1