New Homepage Feedback Round 3

[Mr_Man]

Like it a lot! More compact, yet easier to navigate. It also seems more logical that you have the breakdown of Graphics, Storage, etc. most recent news right above the most recent news. The old way was kind of clunky, but I like this!

 

[chaosgs]

They have no intention of changing this back do they? Would like to know why they changed it in the first place!

 

[angelraiter]

They have no intention of changing this back do they? Would like to know why they changed it in the first place!

Guess not.. 🙁 Very disappointing. I read through all the feedback and it seems the vast majority of people didn't like this layout. I hope Tom's didn't ask for feedback just for the hack of it and actually listens to us and does something about it.

 

[Kreth]

As an aside, I encourage you to take the Tom's Hardware System Builder widget for a spin. You'll find quite a number of impressive builds created by users there.

Have you made it in an environment on this webpage yet?, no then i shall wait till you do or i wont see it ^^

 

[jpishgar]

I just checked again and it is no longer happening.

Good to hear! May have just been a temporary glitch.

Have you made it in an environment on this webpage yet?, no then i shall wait till you do or i wont see it ^^

Facebook will assimilate you yet. Mark my words. Oh yes. It will come in the night for you and your children, and your children's children. *glares ominously*

But apart from that, having the builder app here independently would work too... I think. Stripping the sharing portion becomes a bit of an issue, and the inability to Like. We'll take a look.

They have no intention of changing this back do they?

Not particularly. We went through three full betas, with tons and tons of feedback from our users the whole way through. Most of the features you see now, including the placement, come directly from you guys, implemented in the three different iterations. We understand there will be some natural resistance to the change, but that's always the case when a site undergoes a revamp.

 

[El Pol]

I don't like it, the ads are intrusive

 

[pepe2907]

You may got a ton of responses, suggestions and whatever, but gues what - all the responses you got were from people curious for some change. Because all of us who were relatively satisfied with the old design had never looked at any of your betas /or just don't commented them, because they don't like any of them, and they hoped at the end you'll come to something satisfactory without their criticism/. So you got all of your many responses from a specific group - the group, who wants tomshardware to change to tomschickchat. Ever thought about that?
Not that the old design were perfect - there was plenty to improve, but this new one is just not for a hardware article site - there are almost no indication of hardware related articles. Regardless that every lesson on web site usability teaches that your front page should show your primary agenda, main line of work, your mission, or whatever most important thing you have to do with this site. So, according to this, what's the most important thing you do now?
Excuse me, but now your site becames an example of how sites shouldn't be done.

 

[hpak]

Completely agree.

Don't like the new layout and what's with Facebook every other link?

I come here to read reviews and articles related to hardware, not link up to a social network.

Please change things back or at least give us a choice of layout. And btw, there is no "classic Tom's" button anywhere. Then again, my eyes are getting older so maybe I'm blind to it.

 

[andy5174]

I really don't understand why you would force everyone to use the new style.


WAS "making users happier" what you borne in mind when designing the new style?

IMO, it wasn't, implied from the force change.


In addition, since many peoples don't bother to leave comments and simply changed it back to

the "OLD" style right after realizing that the "NEW" one is MUCH WORSE, the feedback you

collected from previous betas reflect nothing IMHO. The best way to see what users prefer is

creating a poll of "OLD v.s. NEW v.s. Don't care" on top of the main page.


It's fine if you really want to keep the "NEW" style which might have been put a lot of money/efforts into.

However, please include the "OLD STYLE" option as before.


Regards

Andy

 

[K-zon]

The forum for the feeedback changes as well, to say, but of it though, again, i say option for choices, in some means or another.

 

[IFLATLINEI]

Well.....You guys didnt f%$# it up like every other tech site that does a redesign. Nice job!

 

[edgar]

Consider putting the "Latest News" section of links back in the center--I'm getting a crick in my neck <grin>.

 

[g00ey]

I have one question; how do I revert back to the old layout? Thanks...

 

[businesssense]

It boggles the mind how the vast majority of users that visit a website--the ones whose existence generates the revenue that keeps the website in business--can hate a new site design like this one, can beg and plead for it to be changed back to the way it was, and be completely ignored by the people whose salaries are paid by them.

How do you guys justify this? Shouldn't you strive to keep your readership happy because without them you would not be in business?

I am serious here, i'd like a response to this from one of you admins. In what financial reality does pissing off your readers like this and turning a blind eye and deaf ear to their frantic requests make good business sense?

 

[aune]

I miss having the department headings (ie. graphics, cpu's, ssd's, etc) with the 5 most recent articles hyper-linked under them.
Other than that, I like that i don't have to scroll, and scroll to see the whole web page.

 

[randomizer]

I am serious here, i'd like a response to this from one of you admins. In what financial reality does pissing off your readers like this and turning a blind eye and deaf ear to their frantic requests make good business sense?

What about the people who like the change? Should they be ignored as well? How do you know what the majority of readers think?

 

[zagan]

I like the new site.

Before it was getting far and away too cluttered, there were ADs and articles and bits and pieces all over the place and no real way to work out where stuff was.

it used to be real clean like this new page revamp, real easy to find stuff and read it, that would have been around 2000 I would think now.

then for a few years just utter mess, it was getting to the point where I'd like to use this site to find out about things but due to the utter mess there wasn't much point bothering to come here to look up stuff, to see if it was worth while buying it.

I would hope the current page revamp is kept.

 

[zagan]

It boggles the mind how the vast majority of users that visit a website--the ones whose existence generates the revenue that keeps the website in business--can hate a new site design like this one, can beg and plead for it to be changed back to the way it was, and be completely ignored by the people whose salaries are paid by them.

How do you guys justify this? Shouldn't you strive to keep your readership happy because without them you would not be in business?

I am serious here, i'd like a response to this from one of you admins. In what financial reality does pissing off your readers like this and turning a blind eye and deaf ear to their frantic requests make good business sense?

These sites aren't run the same as a normal business, much like mags newspapers etc.

They need people to come to the site and read about stuff they want to see, if you clutter the pages up with 85% of useless stuff or ADs etc then people won't come to the site they will goto other sites because you can find what you need much quicker and read it properly.

That in turn could be what makes the sale for the end Advertiser business.

for example If I'm looking to buy a CPU and I come here I'll be wanting to find the CPU benchmarks.

If I can't find them then this site has failed simple as that or if I don't come back here to look at stuff again it has also failed.

If I can find them but it's too hard to read or follow this site has failed again as people won't have gotten any info about CPUs from this site.

If I can come here and can find the info and also read it easily then this site has won a reader because they will come back.

If that leads to a sale for Intel or AMD right after that then Intel and AMD are more likely to keep sending hardware and do ADs on this site.

This site is the big cog to the little cogs of business and ADs/sales.

If this site is too hard to read/use, there will be no readership here then business will go elsewhere and this site will die.

Mags newspapers, websites run on readership buying stuff via the ads on their website, as they in turn ghet money from the businesses that do ads with them.

I would have thought you'd have had the business sense to work that out.

 

[cronik93]

I absolutely hate it. Is they're a way to switch back so my eyes don't bleed?

 

[businesssense]

These sites aren't run the same as a normal business, much like mags newspapers etc.

They need people to come to the site and read about stuff they want to see, if you clutter the pages up with 85% of useless stuff or ADs etc then people won't come to the site they will goto other sites because you can find what you need much quicker and read it properly....

Wait, were you replying to my comment? Sorry, I was trying to say if it ain't broke don't try to fix it if the mass majority like it the way it was and hate the new design.

Let me ask you this, if Toms gains 10,000 readers thanks to this new design, but loses 100,000 current readers because they wouldn't listen to what they wanted, how does that improve their business?

As for the person up there who replied to me about what about those who like the site design, that's totally cool. Let's have a vote. If the majority like it, then the majority rule. Sounds fair to me.

 

[chaosgs]

I dont like it and am finding I use the site less and less already, and using anandtech/fudzilla more and more.

Dumbasses lose, and people who listen win.

 

[angelraiter]

I think toms should just put up a poll on their website with the old version available so that we all would be able to vote on our favorite design with both designs fresh on our memories. That would settle this whole thing. The admin above that replied to us says that this new design is based on lots of feedback. Lets see this feed back in action than instead of force feeding us this crappy layout.

If you are so sure that the new layout is what most of your users want, what does it cost you to have a poll run for a couple of days with a button that activates the old layout like you had during the betas?

 

[Vudoo32x]

I rarely log into my account but I had to for this one. As many others have pointed out, the new layout is bull. It reminds me of the mess that became of the new layout for newegg. Anyways, there should be a button to use the old layout if your going to force everyone; if not i'll be taking my reading some other place. (I've tried the beta 2/3 layouts also and they were no good)

 

[geraldfryjr]

I don't care for it at all!!! One of them wasn't to bad but I don't remember which one it was,I much prefer the old format I also didn't like it as well compared to the one you had when I first started reading Toms Hardware. jer

 

[warezme]

I'm sorry but I don't care for it either. It seems random even though I'm sure someone has been obsessing about it, trying to fit the real articles while making room for advertising but it just does not work.