New PC build, 5000 dollar budget

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Hello,

My current pc is quite old, and I have been saving some money for a new one,
I'd like to be able to play some current and upcoming games that I haven't been able to play currently,

Could I get some help please? :)

Approximate Purchase Date: This doesn't really matter, I just need to know a good configuration for a pc build.

Budget Range: 5000 dollars or less :)

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming

Are you buying a monitor: No, I'll buy that later, not included in the price, though appreciated if you know any good ones.

Parts to Upgrade: A fresh new pc, so everything that needs to be in it :)

Do you need to buy OS: Yes, I don't know if I should get windows 7 pro or ultimate though

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: I would be able to search this up myself. :)

Location: Lelystad, Flevoland, The Netherlands, my uncle works at a computer company, and I'll assemble it there (under the supervision of professionals, since I am most likely to screw it up)

Parts Preferences: Nvidia GTX 690 and Nvidia 3960x, I don't know what kind of motherboard I should use, though people say the Asus Rampage IV Extreme is good.

Overclocking: If there is no risk, yes, if there is a risk, maybe

SLI or Crossfire: In the future

Your Monitor Resolution: 1920 x 1080, upgrading to 5760 x 1080 later on

Additional Comments: I just want to play games on maxed settings and enjoy it without any freezing or low fps

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: I can't run battlefield 3, and would like to run AC III, BF3 and Far Cry 3 :)
 
No need to spend $1K on a CPU and $1K on a video card to get a good gaming build. If you're spending that much on a system you definitely want to overclock. Try this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($214.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UP4 TH ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($192.86 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung Spinpoint F4 2TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Plextor PX-M3S Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($241.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 680 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($507.55 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 680 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($507.55 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Switch 810 (White) ATX Full Tower Case ($179.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic X Series 1050W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($211.82 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHES212-08 Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($84.98 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $2501.68
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-09-24 13:37 EDT-0400)

Get one of these for your monitor: http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-YAMAKASI-CATLEAP-Q270-SEi-27-LED-S-IPS-2560X1440-WQHD-6ms-DVI-D-PC-Monitor-/140853868709?pt=Computer_Monitors&hash=item20cb8b78a5

And whatever peripherals you want and you're still $2K ahead.
 


I appreciate it truly, though I saved this much for a pc to get a few years out of it, that's why I am interested in those two things.
Have been sitting here since 2008 with a shitty computer, and I finally am able to afford an overkill computer :)
 


Yeah but why pay $5K for a PC when you can pay 1/2 that and still max out everything you possibly can? The 3960X is overrated and expensive for what you get as the CPU that's 1/2 the money can be clocked to match or beat those speeds. X79 isn't really worth anything on a gaming rig - Z77 is a far better bet.

And dual 680's actually beat the 690 in advertised benchmarks.
 
I want this pc to last long, that's why I'll spend that much money on it,
I don't know if the 3960X is good, I've been hearing some nice things about the 3820?
Too be honest, I just want the best CPU you can get (Intel Core CPU that is)
And I want the 690 because in the future I'll go and do a gtx 690 quad sli :)
 
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/443?vs=551& <------ Intel Core i7 3960x- 3.3GHz vs Intel Core i7 3770K - 3.5GHz

Take a look at that page and look at the gaming benches (middle of that page on down) then take a look at the power consumption under load bench towards the bottom of that page. Now ask yourself what a $1,030.00 cpu gets you vs a $330 cpu or better yet a $230 cpu seeing how the 3570K runs pretty much dead even with the 3770K.
 


Again, X79 isn't worth it on a gaming rig period. Z77 is a far better bet - even the 3820 isn't worth the money. The 3570K is the best CPU on the market for gaming currently. The 690 isn't worth the money though - you can get dual 680s for cheaper and future proofing is a huge moot point.
 

This is exactly what you shouldn't do.
 
alright, at current exhange rates: 5000 US dollars = 3871.4650 euros.

Working from PC Parkpicker in Germany:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (€310.95 @ Amazon Deutchland)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler (€74.89 @ Amazon Deutchland)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard (€127.89 @ Amazon Deutchland)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (€78.16 @ Amazon Deutchland)
Storage: Crucial M4 512GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (€345.95 @ Amazon Deutchland)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€139.71 @ Amazon Deutchland)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 680 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) (€530.99 @ Amazon Deutchland)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 680 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) (€530.99 @ Amazon Deutchland)
Case: Antec Eleven Hundred ATX Full Tower Case (€104.49 @ Amazon Deutchland)
Power Supply: XFX 850W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (€97.74 @ Amazon Deutchland)
Optical Drive: Sony BD-5300S-0B Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer (€90.76 @ Amazon Deutchland)
Monitor: Asus ML239H 23.0" Monitor (€149.00 @ Amazon Deutchland)
Monitor: Asus ML239H 23.0" Monitor (€149.00 @ Amazon Deutchland)
Monitor: Asus ML239H 23.0" Monitor (€149.00 @ Amazon Deutchland)
Total: €2879.52
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-09-24 20:34 CEST+0200)

two GTX 680s in SLI, 3x 23" monitors, 16 GB of RAM, a 512GB SSD and a 3 TB storage drive, add 99 Euro for Windows Home Premium, or 140 Euros for Professional, max out the fans and you're just under 3K Euro
 




I am incredibly sorry if I seem ignorant, and I appreciate that both of you are helping me out, I didn't knew 3770k was better then 3960x, I thought you ment that it wasn't worth the money, though it was better.
I apologize for misreading what you wrote, could you explain to me what the difference is between a Z77 and a X79?
 


Z77 is the more consumer-friendly motherboard chipset - it's for socket LGA 1155. X79 is meant for hardcore enthusiasts and multimedia authors which is why most X79 motherboards have a higher RAM capacity than Z77 does.
 


Thanks dude, incredibly appreciate it 😀
 




Oh, I understand, thanks for explaining it to me,
I don't know much about pc's,
and this is the first time I am actually buying it in pieces and not fully build
 


The only thing about Sqrl's build is that the 3770K and 16GB of RAM won't be fully utilized for gaming - the 3570K and 8GB of RAM are all you need.

and this is the first time I am actually buying it in pieces and not fully build
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I'm personally not the biggest fan of doing builds that way - components become outdated and then you don't know if something fully works or not until you turn it on for the first time and by then if something doesn't you most likely won't be able to return your product.
 
Nothing is going to give you better GAMING performance, NOW, and for some time into the future, than i5-3570K and TWO GTX680's. Spending more, now, is pointless, unless you want to go for water cooling and, perhaps, Republic of Gamers motherboard, but that's as much for the computer enthusiast, as for the hard-core gamer.
By the time that rig is starting to struggle to keep up with the latest games, I GUARANTEE 4 690's is not going to be the way to go. Trying to "future proof" at the high end is a waste of time and money. The new Haswell processors, and 7xx graphics cards, will be with us within 12 months. If you want to ensure you are "up to date", in two years time, put $1000, or $1500 in the bank, and keep your options OPEN. Spend the rest on a REALLY good monitor, sound system etc.
 


It is nice to have a $5k budget, but I think I would spend it differently.

First of all, realize that if you buy the best today, it will be old hat by this time next year.
I would buy now, what you need now, and save some of your budget for an upgrade later.
I can see sch an upgrade coming for new graphics capabilities, less so for the cpu. Haswell will be 10% faster, and that will not obsolete today's ivy bridge cpu's.


1) I like the $1000 GTX690. Yes, it is expensive, but it is the strongest card available today. About the equivalent of GTX680 in sli with some other advantages, like less power and quieter operation.. The graphics card is the real engine of a gamer, so you are doing well to spend a lot of your budget there.
For any single monitor, a single GTX690 is as good as it gets. But, what will happen if you get into triple monitor gaming?
Again, the GTX690 should do very well. But if such a monitor arrangement is in the future, perhaps 6 months out or more, there will be a new generation of stronger cards available. The AMD8xxx series and Nvidia Kepler-2. Who knows what those cards will bring. I think your best strategy is to reserve some of your budget for your next upgrade for the time you need it. At that time, sell the GTX690 and replace it with the next best thing. I am guessing that there will be a new single card that does the job.

2) One of the few future proof PC purchases you can make today is a great monitor. I suggest you consider a 27" 2560 x 1440 monitor. It will give you more immersive gaming. They are also expensive, like $700. Samsung makes the panels for a number of other vendors, and I think they keep the best samples for themselves. I have never had a dead pixel from them.

3) Very few games can use more than 2-3 cores. The extra cores on a 6 core cpu, or the hyperthreads of a 3770K, will go largely unused. It is more important that the cores you have be fast, and 4 is enough. Today, the 3570K is as good as it gets for a gamer. The "K" is designed for simple multiplier overclocking, and it is trivial to get to 4.3 or thereabouts without fiddling with voltages. All you need is a decent aftermarket cpu air cooler.

4) For a top end build, Use a SSD for the os and games. 240gb will do the job. Buy only a reliable ssd. That will be Intel 330 or 520, or Samsung 830, or possibly the newly announced 840pro. Cost is about $1 per gb. Add a hard drive if you need more room to store video's or large files.

5) No need for pro or ultimate. No game uses more than 2-3gb of ram, so 8gb is a usual recommendation. But considering that ram is so cheap, I would buy a 16gb kit of 2 x 8gb of low profile DDR3 1600 ram. Faster does not help.

6) For a cpu cooler, I like the Noctua NH-D14, or the Phanteks.

7) Any Z77 based motherboard will do. They all will OC to sufficiently high levels. If you might want sli, then buy a motherboard capable of sli with separated X16 slots for cooling. No need to spend top dollar for more x16 slots or liquid nitrogen cooling capability.

8) For a psu, buy only quality. Period..
My short list of quality units would include Seasonic, PC P&C, Antec, Corsair and XFX.
A GTX690 will need a 620w psu, and sli gtx690 will need a 950w psu. Future cards will be more power efficient and will not need more.

9) For a case, looks count. Buy one you love. Bust your budget if you see one you really lust after. You will be looking at it for a long time.
Functionally, most cases will work so long as they hold your parts. If a case has at least two 120mm intake fans or equivalent output, it willhave adequate cooling.

10) I have been deliberately unspecific in suggesting parts. Do some research yourself if you find my suggestions useful.
Post a tentative list from web sites you have access to along with a description and, perhaps your comments.
 
9) For a case, looks count. Buy one you love. Bust your budget if you see one you really lust after. You will be looking at it for a long time.
Functionally, most cases will work so long as they hold your parts. If a case has at least two 120mm intake fans or equivalent output, it willhave adequate cooling.
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Case is a lot of personal preference but there's a LOT of junk manufacturers out there. Sure the cases look good but if you start going with off brands (Apevia, Xion, Xclio, Raidmax, etc) then that's where you get cases that are likely to fall apart on you.

2) One of the few future proof PC purchases you can make today is a great monitor. I suggest you consider a 27" 2560 x 1440 monitor. It will give you more immersive gaming. They are also expensive, like $700. Samsung makes the panels for a number of other vendors, and I think they keep the best samples for themselves. I have never had a dead pixel from them.
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You can get one of those Korean imports from eBay (Crossover, Yamakasi, etc) for like 1/2 of what the Samsung monitor goes for.
 


I can't disagree with you on either point.

I want to see what appeals to the OP. If he picks a crummy quality case, at least we will know a bit more of preferences.
It is usually the high "bling" cases that are junk.

Those catleap.. type monitors are an interesting option. I am not in the market, but did some research, and the buyers seem mostly happy. They use a- panels rejected fro apple which uses only a+ quality panels. If one does not mind a bad pixel or two the price is certainly right. Other features like OSD controls or sturdy stands might also be missing. Ane who knows about any warranty?
Still, 2560 x 1440 is such a compelling resolution that I might have tried one if I had been in the market.
 
Hi.
All of the builds suggested above are awesome but i made you the best of them all.It's overkill at it's best.It will be able to max out every game with its maximum settings.
Even Crysis 3.Yeah i said it.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3930K 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($499.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Thermaltake Water 2.0 Extreme 81.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus Rampage IV Formula ATX LGA2011 Motherboard ($349.98 @ NCIX US)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($114.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Mushkin Chronos Deluxe 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($159.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 680 4GB Video Card (4-Way SLI) ($587.86 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 680 4GB Video Card (4-Way SLI) ($587.86 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 680 4GB Video Card (4-Way SLI) ($587.86 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 680 4GB Video Card (4-Way SLI) ($587.86 @ Newegg)
Case: Enermax Fulmo GT (Black) ATX Full Tower Case ($204.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 1250W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($211.82 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On IHBS112-04 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus PA238Q 23.0" Monitor ($229.98 @ NCIX US)
Monitor: Asus PA238Q 23.0" Monitor ($229.98 @ NCIX US)
Monitor: Asus PA238Q 23.0" Monitor ($229.98 @ NCIX US)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) ($90.86 @ Amazon)
Total: $5023.97
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-09-24 15:47 EDT-0400)

The processor is the best one you can buy after the extreme edition.But the difference is extremely minor.
The graphics cards are.... well the best of the best nvidia has to offer.And you've got four of them.Nuff' said.
The fastest 7200RPM HDD and one of the fastest SSD's you can buy.
Three of the best 23" monitors you can buy.They feature outstanding picture quality and very wide viewing angles.
A Blu-Ray reader/writer
One of the best power supplies available.

Well ill just sum it up.It's all top end.There are NO compromises in this build.

And if you somehow decide that you need more power you can overclock the CPU very easily because of the top-quality motherboard and excellent water cooler.

And ill say it once more.Im pretty sure you do not need that kind of power but if you can get then go for it.
 
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