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High-Energy

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Hello all,

I'm looking to build a new system (my current system is almost 10 years old). So, I'd like to setup a decent gaming rig.

I was thinking about this motherboard at it's core (ROG Maximus XIII Hero (WiFi 6E) Z590 LGA 1200(Intel®11th/10th Gen) ATX Gaming Motherboard ).

Any suggestions of motherboards, memory, harddrive, SSD, sound card, video card, case, CPU, etc would be great.

Oh and are liquid cooled systems mandatory these days? or only for extreme overclocking?

Thanks in advance
 

Why_Me

Glorious
Hello all,

I'm looking to build a new system (my current system is almost 10 years old). So, I'd like to setup a decent gaming rig.

I was thinking about this motherboard at it's core (ROG Maximus XIII Hero (WiFi 6E) Z590 LGA 1200(Intel®11th/10th Gen) ATX Gaming Motherboard ).

Any suggestions of motherboards, memory, harddrive, SSD, sound card, video card, case, CPU, etc would be great.

Oh and are liquid cooled systems mandatory these days? or only for extreme overclocking?

Thanks in advance
What country are you located, what is your budget, what is your monitor resolution or is a monitor to be included in the budget?
 

High-Energy

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Hello all,

I'm looking to build a new system (my current system is almost 10 years old). So, I'd like to setup a decent gaming rig.

I was thinking about this motherboard at it's core (ROG Maximus XIII Hero (WiFi 6E) Z590 LGA 1200(Intel®11th/10th Gen) ATX Gaming Motherboard ).

Any suggestions of motherboards, memory, harddrive, SSD, sound card, video card, case, CPU, etc would be great.

Thanks in advance
Liquid cooling is hardly mandatory.

Have you deliberately eliminated 12th generation Intel processors?
No. I'm open to all suggestions.
 

High-Energy

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Modest budget.
Up to approximately $500 on CPU (if performance warrants)
Up to $400 on memory
Up to $400 or so on motherboard
Up to $600 on video card (if performance warrants)

Hopefully, that gives you an idea. I know it's quite easy to go overboard building a system.
 
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Why_Me

Glorious
This board down below hit Europe two weeks ago and is due to arrive in the US any day now. DDR5 RAM is new and expensive but by the looks of it you keep hold of your builds for a good long while. Anyways this down below gives you a rough idea of a decent gaming build for your resolution that will last you awhile.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1687326-REG/msi_mag_b660_tomahawk_wifi.html
MSI MAG B660 TOMAHAWK Wi-Fi $189.99

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/MAG-B660-TOMAHAWK-WIFI

https://www.newegg.com/p/1HD-002J-005K8 <---- watch the Newegg site get this board before anyone else in the states.

https://www.newegg.com/intel-core-i7-12700f-core-i7-12th-gen/p/N82E16819118359
Intel Core i7-12700F $312.99 + $5 off w/ promo code MDSBS2446

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/134592/intel-core-i712700f-processor-25m-cache-up-to-4-90-ghz.html

https://www.amazon.com/DeepCool-AK620-High-Performance-Dual-Tower-Dissipation/dp/B09CSXS3X4
DeepCool AK620 CPU Cooler $64.99

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/deepcool-ak620-review

https://global.deepcool.com/products/Cooling/cpuaircoolers/AK620-High-Performance-CPU-Cooler/2021/13067.shtml

https://www.newegg.com/corsair-32gb-288-pin-ddr5-sdram/p/N82E16820236828
CORSAIR Vengeance DDR5 5600 32GB (2x16GB) CL36 $269.99 + $10 off w/ promo code MDSBS24337

https://www.amazon.com/PNY-CS1030-Internal-Solid-State/dp/B08M446772/
PNY CS1030 2TB M.2 NVMe PCIe Gen3 x4 Internal SSD $164.99

https://www.antonline.com/Evga/Computers/Video_Cards/Graphic_Cards/1450434
EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Graphics Card + EVGA SuperNOVA 850W GA 80+ Gold Modular Power Supply $999.99
 

High-Energy

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This board down below hit Europe two weeks ago and is due to arrive in the US any day now. DDR5 RAM is new and expensive but by the looks of it you keep hold of your builds for a good long while. Anyways this down below gives you a rough idea of a decent gaming build for your resolution that will last you awhile.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1687326-REG/msi_mag_b660_tomahawk_wifi.html
MSI MAG B660 TOMAHAWK Wi-Fi $189.99

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/MAG-B660-TOMAHAWK-WIFI

https://www.newegg.com/p/1HD-002J-005K8 <---- watch the Newegg site get this board before anyone else in the states.

https://www.newegg.com/intel-core-i7-12700f-core-i7-12th-gen/p/N82E16819118359
Intel Core i7-12700F $312.99 + $5 off w/ promo code MDSBS2446

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/134592/intel-core-i712700f-processor-25m-cache-up-to-4-90-ghz.html

https://www.amazon.com/DeepCool-AK620-High-Performance-Dual-Tower-Dissipation/dp/B09CSXS3X4
DeepCool AK620 CPU Cooler $64.99

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/deepcool-ak620-review

https://global.deepcool.com/products/Cooling/cpuaircoolers/AK620-High-Performance-CPU-Cooler/2021/13067.shtml

https://www.newegg.com/corsair-32gb-288-pin-ddr5-sdram/p/N82E16820236828
CORSAIR Vengeance DDR5 5600 32GB (2x16GB) CL36 $269.99 + $10 off w/ promo code MDSBS24337

https://www.amazon.com/PNY-CS1030-Internal-Solid-State/dp/B08M446772/
PNY CS1030 2TB M.2 NVMe PCIe Gen3 x4 Internal SSD $164.99

https://www.antonline.com/Evga/Computers/Video_Cards/Graphic_Cards/1450434
EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Graphics Card + EVGA SuperNOVA 850W GA 80+ Gold Modular Power Supply $999.99
Thanks for all your insight and suggestions. I normally do upgrade my system every 3-4 years. I was finishing up my degree and such so it stretched longer than normal.
 
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High-Energy

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This board down below hit Europe two weeks ago and is due to arrive in the US any day now. DDR5 RAM is new and expensive but by the looks of it you keep hold of your builds for a good long while. Anyways this down below gives you a rough idea of a decent gaming build for your resolution that will last you awhile.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1687326-REG/msi_mag_b660_tomahawk_wifi.html
MSI MAG B660 TOMAHAWK Wi-Fi $189.99

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/MAG-B660-TOMAHAWK-WIFI

https://www.newegg.com/p/1HD-002J-005K8 <---- watch the Newegg site get this board before anyone else in the states.

https://www.newegg.com/intel-core-i7-12700f-core-i7-12th-gen/p/N82E16819118359
Intel Core i7-12700F $312.99 + $5 off w/ promo code MDSBS2446

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/134592/intel-core-i712700f-processor-25m-cache-up-to-4-90-ghz.html

https://www.amazon.com/DeepCool-AK620-High-Performance-Dual-Tower-Dissipation/dp/B09CSXS3X4
DeepCool AK620 CPU Cooler $64.99

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/deepcool-ak620-review

https://global.deepcool.com/products/Cooling/cpuaircoolers/AK620-High-Performance-CPU-Cooler/2021/13067.shtml

https://www.newegg.com/corsair-32gb-288-pin-ddr5-sdram/p/N82E16820236828
CORSAIR Vengeance DDR5 5600 32GB (2x16GB) CL36 $269.99 + $10 off w/ promo code MDSBS24337

https://www.amazon.com/PNY-CS1030-Internal-Solid-State/dp/B08M446772/
PNY CS1030 2TB M.2 NVMe PCIe Gen3 x4 Internal SSD $164.99

https://www.antonline.com/Evga/Computers/Video_Cards/Graphic_Cards/1450434
EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Graphics Card + EVGA SuperNOVA 850W GA 80+ Gold Modular Power Supply $999.99
Questions:

Can you recommend a case? Also, why did you choose an i7 vs i9? The motherboard is fairly inexpensive. Am I sacrificing anything?
 

Why_Me

Glorious
Questions:

Can you recommend a case? Also, why did you choose an i7 vs i9? The motherboard is fairly inexpensive. Am I sacrificing anything?
https://www.newegg.com/black-lian-li-lancool-ii-performance-atx-mid-tower/p/2AM-000Z-00086
LIAN LI LANCOOL II MESH C PERFORMANCE $120.99


https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-core-i7-12700k-review




i7 12700 / 12700F review.


i7 12700 / 12700F gaming benchmarks.

 

Why_Me

Glorious
Questions:

Can you recommend a case? Also, why did you choose an i7 vs i9? The motherboard is fairly inexpensive. Am I sacrificing anything?
That MSI board was rated #1 B660 board by Hardware Unboxed. You could go with a Z690 board which would give you more PCIe lanes, PCIe 5.0 and the ability to overclock but by the time card manufacturers start making 5.0 cards you'll be ready for a new build which will include a new board not to mention overclocking is a hobbyist thing anymore seeing how it gets you minimal gains along with the extra cost for board, cpu and cooling. Overclocking has become a hose job .. just like the i9 cpu's which not only cost a boatload of money but they are power hungry heat producing hogs.
 
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Why_Me

Glorious
Your advice is to go the DDR5 route correct?
Not if you plan on doing a rebuild within the next four years or so. When I saw your last build was ten years ago I went with DDR5. DDR4 is faster in regards to gaming not to mention it's a lot cheaper than DDR5.

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813144520?item=N82E16813144520
MSI MAG B660 TOMAHAWK WIFI DDR4 $189.99

https://us.msi.com/Motherboard/MAG-B660-TOMAHAWK-WIFI-DDR4

https://www.newegg.com/corsair-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820236541
CORSAIR Vengeance LPX DDR4 3200MHz 32GB (2x16GB) CL16 $116.99 + $3 off w/ promo code MDSBS24326
 
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Zerk2012

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These days no reason to overclock anything really not much left the way everything is made.
Could add some RGB if you wish. Move the original front fans to the top and put the extra fans in the front.

You will probably need the LGA1700 bracket for the CPU cooler Amazon sells them about 10 bucks.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | Intel Core i7-12700K 3.6 GHz 12-Core Processor | $376.99 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler | Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler | $109.95 @ Amazon
Motherboard | MSI MAG Z690 TOMAHAWK WIFI DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard | $269.99 @ Amazon
Memory | Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory | $129.99 @ Newegg
Storage | Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive | $219.99 @ Amazon
Video Card | EVGA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti 8 GB FTW3 ULTRA GAMING Video Card | $777.99 @ EVGA
Case | Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case | $94.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply | Corsair RMx (2021) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply | $134.99 @ Amazon
Operating System | Microsoft Windows 11 Home OEM 64-bit | $119.98 @ Amazon
Case Fan | ARCTIC P14 72.8 CFM 140 mm Fan | $10.99 @ Amazon
Case Fan | ARCTIC P14 72.8 CFM 140 mm Fan | $10.99 @ Amazon
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total | $2256.84
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-05-25 18:32 EDT-0400 |

With the 1440p monitor you could even go this way or keep the 12700K and up the video card.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | Intel Core i5-12600K 3.7 GHz 10-Core Processor | $274.99 @ Newegg
CPU Cooler | Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler | $109.95 @ Amazon
Motherboard | MSI MAG Z690 TOMAHAWK WIFI DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard | $269.99 @ Amazon
Memory | Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory | $129.99 @ Newegg
Storage | Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive | $219.99 @ Amazon
Video Card | EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 10GB 10 GB XC3 ULTRA GAMING Video Card | $929.00 @ Amazon
Case | Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case | $94.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply | Corsair RMx (2021) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply | $134.99 @ Amazon
Operating System | Microsoft Windows 11 Home OEM 64-bit | $119.98 @ Amazon
Case Fan | ARCTIC P14 72.8 CFM 140 mm Fan | $10.99 @ Amazon
Case Fan | ARCTIC P14 72.8 CFM 140 mm Fan | $10.99 @ Amazon
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total | $2305.85
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-05-25 19:03 EDT-0400 |
 
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Why_Me

Glorious
These days no reason to overclock anything really not much left the way everything is made.
Could add some RGB if you wish. Move the original front fans to the top and put the extra fans in the front.

You will probably need the LGA1700 bracket for the CPU cooler Amazon sells them about 10 bucks.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | Intel Core i7-12700K 3.6 GHz 12-Core Processor | $376.99 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler | Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler | $109.95 @ Amazon
Motherboard | MSI MAG Z690 TOMAHAWK WIFI DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard | $269.99 @ Amazon
Memory | Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory | $129.99 @ Newegg
Storage | Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive | $219.99 @ Amazon
Video Card | EVGA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti 8 GB FTW3 ULTRA GAMING Video Card | $777.99 @ EVGA
Case | Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case | $94.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply | Corsair RMx (2021) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply | $134.99 @ Amazon
Operating System | Microsoft Windows 11 Home OEM 64-bit | $119.98 @ Amazon
Case Fan | ARCTIC P14 72.8 CFM 140 mm Fan | $10.99 @ Amazon
Case Fan | ARCTIC P14 72.8 CFM 140 mm Fan | $10.99 @ Amazon
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total | $2256.84
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-05-25 18:32 EDT-0400 |
Just curious, but why the unlocked cpu + Z690 board?
 

High-Energy

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No and there no reason to spend 400 bucks on a motherboard.
EDIT what will the PC be used for? Gaming only?
Mostly gaming, but some video editing too (and work stuff too). I've gotten used to paying a premium for ASUS motherboards over the years. How things have changed.
 

Why_Me

Glorious
Mostly gaming, but some video editing too (and work stuff too). I've gotten used to paying a premium for ASUS motherboards over the years. How things have changed.
Unlike the 12700F (no integrated graphics) I posted earlier in this thread, this cpu down below will allow you to enable Intel's Quick Sync.

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/architecture-and-technology/quick-sync-video/quick-sync-video-general.html

https://www.newegg.com/intel-core-i7-12700-core-i7-12th-gen/p/N82E16819118368
Intel Core i7-12700 $342.98

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/134591/intel-core-i712700-processor-25m-cache-up-to-4-90-ghz.html
 
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Zerk2012

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Mostly gaming, but some video editing too (and work stuff too). I've gotten used to paying a premium for ASUS motherboards over the years. How things have changed.
I haven't bought a Asus product for myself in over 7 years, mostly just gimmicks and most of the time you can buy a better product for a lower price.

EDIT I try to talk customers out of Asus products!
 

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