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I recently started playing UO and have a mage currently on the Atlantic
shard. I have a question about getting more spells in my spellbook. I
had thought you would just drag a scroll onto the spellbook but that
does not seem to work. I tried with a circle one spell.

Appreciate any help... Thanks
 
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"Felwynne" <felwynne@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> I recently started playing UO and have a mage currently on the Atlantic
> shard. I have a question about getting more spells in my spellbook. I
> had thought you would just drag a scroll onto the spellbook but that
> does not seem to work. I tried with a circle one spell.
>
> Appreciate any help... Thanks
>

If the spell is already in the book a drag/drop will not work. Maybe that
is what happened.

I play Atlantic and would be happy to fix you up with a full book and some
gear if you want.
 
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Todd Bailey wrote:
> "Felwynne" <felwynne@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1110933855.297238.286810@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> > I recently started playing UO and have a mage currently on the
Atlantic
> > shard. I have a question about getting more spells in my
spellbook. I
> > had thought you would just drag a scroll onto the spellbook but
that
> > does not seem to work. I tried with a circle one spell.
> >
> > Appreciate any help... Thanks
> >
>
> If the spell is already in the book a drag/drop will not work. Maybe
that
> is what happened.
>
> I play Atlantic and would be happy to fix you up with a full book and
some
> gear if you want.

That is what was so odd. It was not in the book already; I double
checked that as that was my first thought. I dragged the scroll to the
book and it just dropped back into inventory. Is there a spell limit
based on magery skill?

Thanks for offering to help. I did ask a mage who came into the magic
shop for advice as to the above and he helped with some starting gear
and a full spellbook. I am in Haven still working on Uzeraan's quests.

I must say, I am enjoying the community very much in UO so far. I have
found it much better than my experiences in WoW.
 
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d.kaufmann@raumcomputer.com wrote:
> you still chose the wrong server ;)
> come to siege perilous and learn what real community means.

I noticed that on the UO site and was going to read up on it at lunch
here at work. What makes it more fun?
 
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On 16 Mar 2005 07:18:51 -0800, "Felwynne" <felwynne@yahoo.com> wrote:

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>d.kaufmann@raumcomputer.com wrote:
>> you still chose the wrong server ;)
>> come to siege perilous and learn what real community means.
>
>I noticed that on the UO site and was going to read up on it at lunch
>here at work. What makes it more fun?

People can kill you and steal from you. That tends to draw the
community closer together but not everyone considers it fun.

It was intended as a place for experienced UO players to go
play. I'd stick to Atlantic for now if I were you. :)

Reg LeCrisp - Atlantic
 
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Alergic Alchemist wrote:
> "Felwynne" <felwynne@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1110986331.839808.128310@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > d.kaufmann@raumcomputer.com wrote:
> >> you still chose the wrong server ;)
> >> come to siege perilous and learn what real community means.
> >
> > I noticed that on the UO site and was going to read up on it at
lunch
> > here at work. What makes it more fun?
> >
[Snip a large piece of an excellent reply-for brevity's sake]
> Despite what the nay-sayers here have already said, firstly, there's
no
> insurance. That means no safety net, so, yes, you can and will lose
items.
> However, it also means that:
> - two, as soon as you can, find the NEW guild. It's the best start
you can
> get to the shard - details are at www.frejasp.dk/new

Thank you for such a detailed and informative post. I did play UO but
it was over 4 years ago and even then I did not play for long due to RL
circumstances. I am back in the MMO market and have tried most of them
and find many come up short or are completely filled with 1337
OMGPWNJOO types. With my experience level such as it is with UO, I
figure I am better off, for the time being, to stay on Atlantic and
stay away from pvp for a while. I have enough to deal with the
monsters right now :) and learning the skills system and general
gameplay. I am still using the "templates" provided rather than the
advanced tab right now.

I have saved your response and noted the link so I can try a holiday
over there after a while. Once again, thank you for your response.

John
 

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On 16 Mar 2005 07:18:51 -0800, "Felwynne" <felwynne@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>d.kaufmann@raumcomputer.com wrote:
>> you still chose the wrong server ;)
>> come to siege perilous and learn what real community means.
>
>I noticed that on the UO site and was going to read up on it at lunch
>here at work. What makes it more fun?

Its only more fun for him, because he can steal from you, and kill
you. It is the kind of play that almost killed UO in the first two
years. They finally got smart and developed Trammel so you did
not have to be a victim or killer if you did not want to.
 
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you still chose the wrong server ;)
come to siege perilous and learn what real community means.
 
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> Todd Bailey wrote:
> > "Felwynne" <felwynne@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:1110933855.297238.286810@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> > > I recently started playing UO and have a mage currently on the
> Atlantic
> > > shard. I have a question about getting more spells in my
> spellbook. I
> > > had thought you would just drag a scroll onto the spellbook but
> that
> > > does not seem to work. I tried with a circle one spell.
> > >
> > > Appreciate any help... Thanks
> > >
> >
> > If the spell is already in the book a drag/drop will not work. Maybe
> that
> > is what happened.
> >
> > I play Atlantic and would be happy to fix you up with a full book and
> some
> > gear if you want.
>
> That is what was so odd. It was not in the book already; I double
> checked that as that was my first thought. I dragged the scroll to the
> book and it just dropped back into inventory. Is there a spell limit
> based on magery skill?

As far as I know skill has nothing to do with dropping spell scrolls into a
spell book. The only other thing that I can think of is that you were
trying to drop a necromancy scroll into a regular mages spellbook. Was the
scroll green by any chance? If it was a proper magery spell that was not
already in the book then either the book or the scroll might be bugged. I
have never heard of that before but, with the new player made spell books,
who knows?

> Thanks for offering to help. I did ask a mage who came into the magic
> shop for advice as to the above and he helped with some starting gear
> and a full spellbook. I am in Haven still working on Uzeraan's quests.

You are welcome. I have a newbe "free store" at my house. Nine vendors
filled with armor, weapons, jewelry and other gear and everything is free.
If you need anything let me know and I'll see if I can fix you up.

> I must say, I am enjoying the community very much in UO so far. I have
> found it much better than my experiences in WoW.

Glad to hear that you are having fun. That is what it is all about. I
suspose that Atlantic has it's fair share of 733+ D3wd5 and jerks but, to be
honest, I seldom run into them. I think that most people are OK, it is just
the bad apples who get all the press! ;-)
 
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> d.kaufmann@raumcomputer.com wrote:
>> you still chose the wrong server ;)
>> come to siege perilous and learn what real community means.
>
> I noticed that on the UO site and was going to read up on it at lunch
> here at work. What makes it more fun?
>
Despite what the nay-sayers here have already said, firstly, there's no
insurance. That means no safety net, so, yes, you can and will lose items.
However, it also means that:

- there are very few people running around in 100% artifact outfits that
they bought on ebay.

- with a few exceptions, such as the veteran players who can bless ONE item
with a old bless deed, everyone is reliant on armour and weapons that can be
bought, found as loot, or crafted. The combat playing field, while not
perfectly level, is a lot more balanced than standard shards, where you
either need a ton of gold to buy and insure the uber-suit, or to go ebaying.

- there are no irritating banksitters outside West Brit Bank. In fact, WBB
is practically deserted. If you want to trade, do it in the player-run
towns - towns made up of player-owned houses and shops.

Apart from the lack of insurance...

- there is a lot of role-play there. You are more likely to find someone who
doth speak unto thee in this manner than someone who sp33kz t0 yoo lik3
thiz.

- there is a strong sense of player community, and team spirit. Player
justice, while not perfect, does exist. In some ways, it's a kangaroo court,
but in many ways it does keep newcomers to the shard safer than, for
example, someone who had just lost their 'young' status stepping through the
Fel moongate for the first time on Atlantic.

- unless you become a hermit, there is a strong liklihood that word will
soon spread as to who you are, and what you are like. You actually have a
chance to build a reputation here, in whatever direction you choose.

- Guilds arrange and publicise player-run events, in addition to the normal
EM run events. While some are guild-specific, many are open to all comers.

- Recall does not work, nor does Sacred Journey. Gate is the only way to
travel magically. This means that if you don't want magery, you will rely on
other people's gates (and there will usually be someone willing to offer you
one - just be careful who you trust!) , or go by foot/mount. That's not as
bad as it sounds - there are NOT killers lurking behind every bush, but you
will get to see a lot of the player towns, meet more people, etc. In short -
a more exciting way of playing the game, rather than just magically bouncing
from place to place. There's that nervous feeling of 'who might be waiting
on the other side of the gate I just opened', or 'is this route going to
take me past the vampire guild?' (yes, we have some who role-play vampires.
How well they do it is a matter of opinion.)

- You can not sell to NPCs. However, the other players will buy things from
you - a quick way to get money is cow whacking in Delucca, or sheep shearing
in Yew. People are always looking for bandages, leather, etc. Mining is
still profitable on Siege, and so is lumberjacking. Scribes get fairly
rich - 1000gp per 10 gate scrolls is a fairly common price, and gate scrolls
are always in high demand.

- Red does not always mean evil, and blue does not always mean good. Red
means that you've broken one or more of Lord British's laws, which, if you
read the game fiction, could be taken to mean any number of things. I
regularly meet and talk to several red players, and they do not kill me on
sight. Similarly, there are blues who will go out of their way to get you
killed, using a variety of interesting methods.

I could go on, but the best I can tell you is to have a look for yourself,
and make your own mind up. Generally, if you ask someone what a shard that
they don't play on, (or is not similar to the one they play on) is like, you
will receive a stream of negativity.
Spend a week or two there, and come to your own conclusions.

Two tips if you do choose go there, even for a holiday :

- one, if you choose to use the paladin template, post something on stratics
beforehand, so someone can come and get you off the island of Ocllo -
there's no moongate where the paladins start for some unknown reason.

- two, as soon as you can, find the NEW guild. It's the best start you can
get to the shard - details are at www.frejasp.dk/new
 
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<slight snippage, for brevity's sake>
> Thank you for such a detailed and informative post. I did play UO but
> it was over 4 years ago and even then I did not play for long due to RL
> circumstances. I am back in the MMO market and have tried most of them
> and find many come up short or are completely filled with 1337
> OMGPWNJOO types. With my experience level such as it is with UO, I
> figure I am better off, for the time being, to stay on Atlantic and
> stay away from pvp for a while. I have enough to deal with the
> monsters right now :) and learning the skills system and general
> gameplay. I am still using the "templates" provided rather than the
> advanced tab right now.
>
> I have saved your response and noted the link so I can try a holiday
> over there after a while. Once again, thank you for your response.
>
> John
>
You're very welcome! I'm glad you're giving UO a second chance, regardless
of which shard you choose! Just for interest's sake - one more small example
of the differences between Siege and other shards -
tonight, the second phase of the Tokono event went live on Siege. On most
shards, you'll be able to take your minor artifacts to be exchanged easily,
maybe with some slight lag if it's a busy shard, and the area ends up
resembling WBB at rush hour.

On Siege, it's busy, but 70% of the people there are thieves. I ran into one
who was RP'ing a Fagin type character, pretending to beg, with a long, well
thought-out sob story as to why he was on hard times, while his assistant
snooped my pack from behind. They're easy enough to avoid - I didn't lose
anything, even with more than two dozen thieves around - but it does add to
the general atmosphere. At least, I think it does!

Glad Siege is on your list of potential holiday destinations! Hope to see
you here one day - we have lovely beaches, and some are even PvPer free! :)
 
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>> Thank you for such a detailed and informative post. I did play UO but
>> it was over 4 years ago and even then I did not play for long due to RL
>> circumstances. I am back in the MMO market and have tried most of them
>> and find many come up short or are completely filled with 1337
>> OMGPWNJOO types. With my experience level such as it is with UO, I
>> figure I am better off, for the time being, to stay on Atlantic and
>> stay away from pvp for a while. I have enough to deal with the
>> monsters right now :) and learning the skills system and general
>> gameplay. I am still using the "templates" provided rather than the
>> advanced tab right now.
>>
>> I have saved your response and noted the link so I can try a holiday
>> over there after a while. Once again, thank you for your response.
>>
>> John
>>
> You're very welcome! I'm glad you're giving UO a second chance, regardless
> of which shard you choose! Just for interest's sake - one more small
> example of the differences between Siege and other shards -
> tonight, the second phase of the Tokono event went live on Siege. On most
> shards, you'll be able to take your minor artifacts to be exchanged
> easily, maybe with some slight lag if it's a busy shard, and the area ends
> up resembling WBB at rush hour.
>
> On Siege, it's busy, but 70% of the people there are thieves. I ran into
> one who was RP'ing a Fagin type character, pretending to beg, with a long,
> well thought-out sob story as to why he was on hard times, while his
> assistant snooped my pack from behind. They're easy enough to avoid - I
> didn't lose anything, even with more than two dozen thieves around - but
> it does add to the general atmosphere. At least, I think it does!
>
> Glad Siege is on your list of potential holiday destinations! Hope to see
> you here one day - we have lovely beaches, and some are even PvPer free!
> :)
>
Hell. After all that info, I'm thinking of taking a vacation there just to
check things out. LOL.

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Reg LeCrisp wrote:

> On 16 Mar 2005 07:18:51 -0800, "Felwynne" <felwynne@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>>d.kaufmann@raumcomputer.com wrote:
>>
>>>you still chose the wrong server ;)
>>>come to siege perilous and learn what real community means.
>>
>>I noticed that on the UO site and was going to read up on it at lunch
>>here at work. What makes it more fun?
>
>
> People can kill you and steal from you. That tends to draw the
> community closer together but not everyone considers it fun.
>
> It was intended as a place for experienced UO players to go
> play. I'd stick to Atlantic for now if I were you. :)
>
> Reg LeCrisp - Atlantic


I don't think there are enough people left on SP to consider it
a community actually.

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Alergic Alchemist wrote:

> "Felwynne" <felwynne@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Similarly, there are blues who will go out of their way to get you
> killed, using a variety of interesting methods.


By all means, please expound... :p

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Todd Bailey wrote:


>
> You are welcome. I have a newbe "free store" at my house. Nine vendors
> filled with armor, weapons, jewelry and other gear and everything is free.
> If you need anything let me know and I'll see if I can fix you up.

Can we have some directions pease?? Touch of Clas is getting
expensive.

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Sticky_314 wrote:

>>Glad Siege is on your list of potential holiday destinations! Hope to see
>>you here one day - we have lovely beaches, and some are even PvPer free!
>>:)
>>
>
> Hell. After all that info, I'm thinking of taking a vacation there just to
> check things out. LOL.
>
> Sticky_314
>

A few leaves would be nice though.


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> Todd Bailey wrote:
>
>
> >
> > You are welcome. I have a newbe "free store" at my house. Nine vendors
> > filled with armor, weapons, jewelry and other gear and everything is
free.
> > If you need anything let me know and I'll see if I can fix you up.
>
> Can we have some directions pease?? Touch of Clas is getting
> expensive.
>

My house is in Trammel wayyy up north of the Justice shrine at about 116o
37' north by 10o 37' west. It's white marble with a little carrel on the
south west side.
 
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On 16 Mar 2005 03:53:43 -0800, "Felwynne" <felwynne@yahoo.com> wrote:

>That is what was so odd. It was not in the book already; I double
>checked that as that was my first thought. I dragged the scroll to the
>book and it just dropped back into inventory. Is there a spell limit
>based on magery skill?

No, but if the spellbook is open then you can't add spells to it. Close
it before dropping scrolls onto it.

>Thanks for offering to help. I did ask a mage who came into the magic
>shop for advice as to the above and he helped with some starting gear
>and a full spellbook. I am in Haven still working on Uzeraan's quests.
>
>I must say, I am enjoying the community very much in UO so far. I have
>found it much better than my experiences in WoW.

Wow? Someone had the arrogance to actually name their game that?

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"Michael Cecil" <macecil@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> On 16 Mar 2005 03:53:43 -0800, "Felwynne" <felwynne@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >That is what was so odd. It was not in the book already; I double
> >checked that as that was my first thought. I dragged the scroll to the
> >book and it just dropped back into inventory. Is there a spell limit
> >based on magery skill?
>
> No, but if the spellbook is open then you can't add spells to it. Close
> it before dropping scrolls onto it.

Actually, you can drop new spell scrolls into an open spell book - unlike
dropping marked runes or recall scrolls into a rune book. If the spell book
is open when you drop in the spell scroll, the new spell will not show up
until you close and re-open the spell book though.
 
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> Alergic Alchemist wrote:
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>> "Felwynne" <felwynne@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:1110986331.839808.128310@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com..
>>
>> Similarly, there are blues who will go out of their way to get you
>> killed, using a variety of interesting methods.
>
>
> By all means, please expound... :p
>
Hmmm.... let's see....

- the 'lure a ton of monsters onto you while pretending that you were just
running away from them' method, usually used by people just starting to
learn to grief.

- the 'here's a gate to Moonglow, I'm sure you'll find someone to rez your
pet there... oops, sorry, wrong rune, I didn't know that one went to the
lich lords' method. (with dispel cast on the gate straight after the victim
goes through, and usually a tamer with nightmare or wyrm waiting to kill the
liches and get the victim's loot straight afterwards)

- the 'kill people just often enough to avoid going red' method. Not a huge
problem.

- the 'go red, but re-create my character with the same name once every ten
days with all my skills saved on soulstones' method.

- the 'take you spawn hunting, and then go invisible while using GM detect
hidden on you' method.

- the guild-ganking method, although that's less of a problem since a recent
patch.

- the 'stealth up to where you're whacking monsters, and reveal myself
hoping that you'll hit me accidentally so I'm actually defending myself'
method.

- the 'oh gee, I accidentally released my white wyrm right next to you and
hid, so sorry' method.

- the 'don't worry, if we're partied, guards won't whack you while we spar
in town' method, usually used to grief newbies.

just about all of which allow a griefer to remain blue, while behaving
badly, getting you killed, and looting you - even with the occasional wait
for the corpse to become available. There are others, but those are the
first ones that come to mind, having had to rescue, or listen to the sob
stories of, several newbies who fell prey to them!
 
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> Sticky_314 wrote:
>
>>>Glad Siege is on your list of potential holiday destinations! Hope to see
>>>you here one day - we have lovely beaches, and some are even PvPer free!
>>>:)
>>>
>>
>> Hell. After all that info, I'm thinking of taking a vacation there just
>> to check things out. LOL.
>>
>> Sticky_314
>>
>
> A few leaves would be nice though.
>
>
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> Wow? Someone had the arrogance to actually name their game that?
>
Blizzard.... World of Warcraft...
'Course their arrogance is based in some damn solid games as well... Not
that I've played WoW though....
 
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On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 22:47:38 -0700, "Alminair"
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>
>
>>
>> Wow? Someone had the arrogance to actually name their game that?
>>
>Blizzard.... World of Warcraft...
>'Course their arrogance is based in some damn solid games as well... Not
>that I've played WoW though....

Oh. The guys who took Nethack and called it Diablo. Pass.

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On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 04:04:33 -0600, Michael Cecil
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>On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 22:47:38 -0700, "Alminair"
><Alminair@*Nospam*Earthlink.Net> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Wow? Someone had the arrogance to actually name their game that?
>>>
>>Blizzard.... World of Warcraft...
>>'Course their arrogance is based in some damn solid games as well... Not
>>that I've played WoW though....
>
>Oh. The guys who took Nethack and called it Diablo. Pass.

I've been playing WoW far more than UO for the last couple of months.
It's a very good game and far more fun than anything I've done in UO
for years.

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It seems to be a very stupid game to me. Why do people waste time to play?