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Official VEKN Malkavian Antitribu NEWSLETTER, June 2005
VOLUME IV, Issue XI

1. INTRODUCTION

This newsletter is dedicated to using Protean in Malk/!Malk decks. As
usual with the out-clan Disciplines, some elder vampires of these clans
possess inferior Protean, and one (Rachel Brandywine) even has it at
superior level.
Why the Protean is so important? Because it provides Malks/!Malks with
the best possible support they need - good and cheap combat cards! Our
clan Disciplines enable stealth-bleed and, possibly, even
stealth-voting decks, but they don't provide really good combat cards
neither to avoid combat (strike:combat ends) nor to prevail in combat.
Even inferior Protean is often enough to create a completely different
deck.

2. HERE WE ARE

There are no !Malks with superior Protean, but Louhi, Rodolfo and
Imogen have it at inferior. Unfortunately, Imogen isn't very good, but
Louhi really is, and Rodolfo is adequate in a bleed-oriented deck. If
we would get at least one more vampire with Protean in the fourth
group, it would enable a 3-4 group Protean-based deck with Louhi and
Rodolfo.
Nowadays, though, a superstar of all Malk/!Malk Protean deck is Rachel
Brandywine, which has superior Protean and +1 bleed. Louhi has more
votes, more disciplines and a great ability, but Rachel's advantages
are much more important in a stealth-bleed deck with Protean. Rachel
can also use Greger Anderssen, a good 7-cap support Prince with
Protean.
And don't forget that Rachel doesn't have to fear PTO, while Louhi can
cancel only PTO of your predator!

3. CARDS OF THE MONTH

Name: Earth Meld
Cardtype: Combat
Discipline: Protean
[pro] Strike: combat ends.
[PRO] As above, and this vampire untaps before combat ends.

The BEST Strike: Combat Ends ever! Majesty for 1 blood is very good -
but what about a FREE Majesty? :)
Even inferior Protean is enough to end combat, at superior your vampire
ends combat and untaps. This can be used both offensively (your action
is blocked, you escape from combat and perform another action) and
defensively - you block something, play Earth Meld, and you are ready
to block something else.
This card is the main reason of playing Protean in !Malk decks - your
large vampires with Protean can survive with it. Earth Meld is used in
large numbers most of the time.

Name: Form of Mist
Cardtype: Combat
Discipline: Protean
[pro] Strike: dodge
[PRO] Strike: combat ends. If this vampire is acting, he or she may
burn 1 blood to continue the action at +1 stealth as if unblocked (this
action can still be blocked). A vampire may play only 1 Form of Mist at
superior each action.

This card requires superior Protean to be effective, as nobody would
use such card for a Dodge (after all, there are Dodges in our clan
disciplines). If your vampire has superior Protean, you may allow an
important blocker to block you (and tap), play Form of Mist and
continue the action. Sometimes this forces the opponent to waste good
combat cards (cards usable before range is determined and maneuvers).
But the more important advantage is the fact that the opponent would be
forced to play Wake and get +1 intercept to block this action again,
and in many cases he would be unable to do this. The main reason of
playing Form of Mist is "clearing the way" for all your vampires. Since
the card is rather cornercase, it's usually used in low quantities (2-3
copies).

Name: Claws of the Dead
Cardtype: Combat
Cost: 1 blood
Discipline: Protean
[pro] For the remainder of this round, this vampire's hand damage is
aggravated.
[PRO] Maneuver.

A "staple" of Gangrels, this card makes your hand damage aggravated.
Malks use this card as a "fear strike" to avoid being considered
"harmless" in combat. Nobody likes aggravated damage, especially
combined with Rotschreck :)
This is our "heavily armed" warning - a good replacement for Coma, as
it's much cheaper, it enables Rotschreck and works even after Immortal
Grapple. Don't rush our vamps, and yours will be safe!

4. VAMPIRES OF THE MONTH

Name: Rodolfo [BH:U2]
Clan: Malkavian antitribu
Group: 3
Capacity: 8
Discipline: pro AUS DEM OBF
Sabbat bishop: +1 bleed.

Rodolfo is slightly underpowered: 7 points of disciplines + 0.5 for
Bishop's title + 1 for bleed bonus = 8.5 points while normal should be
9 for his capacity, but the Malk/!Malk stealth-bleed decks with Protean
use ALL his points, and in these decks he actually is much better that
many "good" vampires with a lot of unused disciplines. He is exactly
what you need - all clan disciplines at superior, inferior Protean and
+1 bleed.
Rodolfo's title doesn't allow playing most useful Sabbat cards, that
require at least Archbishop, bu it's still useful. Besides the obvious
advantage of having an additional vote, it enables using Powerbase:
Madrid on Rodolfo, if you're planning to play some politics, and he can
play Red List on somebody!

Name: Imogen [Sabbat:V, BH😛M]
Clan: Malkavian antitribu
Group: 2
Capacity: 9
Discipline: obf pro vic AUS DEM
Sabbat Archbishop of Miami: Imogen may exchange a random card from the
hand of your prey or predator with a library card from that
Methuselah's ash heap as a +1 stealth (D) action.

Imogen is one of the worst vampires in the whole game. Her ability is
hardly usable: who would waste an action of 9-cap vampire just to put
an unneeded card into somebody's hand? Considering the ability useless,
her powers cost only 8 points (7 points of disciplines + 1 for
Archbishop title), while the normal number for her capacity is 11! And
even those 8 points is nearly impossible to use in a single deck, as
she has five different disciplines... Finally, Imogen even doesn't have
all clan disciplines at superior!
Nevertheless, Imogen still has superior Dementation and inferior
Protean, and sometimes she is used in stealth-bleed decks with Protean
- just because there are no better vamps. Her AUS and DEM allow her to
play The Call at superior, which may eventually compensate for her
disadvantages. Still, she should be avoided if possible... folks, she's
so ugly not without a reason!

Name: Rachel Brandywine [CE:V/PM]
Clan: Malkavian
Group: 3
Capacity: 10
Discipline: ani AUS DEM OBF PRO
Camarilla Prince of Cleveland: If Rachel is ready, at the end of your
discard phase, you may place cards you discard during that discard
phase in your library (shuffle afterward). +1 bleed.

Rachel is great! She has virtually everything you need for a
stealth-bleed deck with Protean - all clan disciplines at superior,
superior Protean, +1 bleed and the Prince title. (Note that Cleveland
isn't too overcrowded, and Rachel's title may be contested only by
Selma the Repugnant or Praxis Seizure: Cleveland, which is good).
Rachel can play any cards in your deck, and she is the only vamp with
superior Protean we may use. Obviously, she would play Forms of Mist to
"remove" dangerous blockers, she would play The Calls to get younger
vamps cheaper and faster, and so on. Currently Rachel is a primary
vampire of any Malk/!Malk stealth-bleed deck with Protean.
Rachel's Prince title is also very useful, as the decks based on her do
use some cards that require it. Second Traditions, Fifth Traditions and
Parity Shifts are the most popular among them. Her ability is obviously
useful, too, especially if you can discard several cards during each
discard phase (say, with Barrens or Powerbase: Los Angeles). Your deck
usually doesn't contain unusable cards, but some cards may be
temporarily not needed. For instance, it would be great to shuffle the
Archon Investigation you don't need right now into your deck instead of
discarding it.
Inferior Animalism is the only Rachel's ability that remains unused in
most stealth-bleed decks. But it's relatively easy to use it for
summoning animal retainers like Raven Spy or playing inferior Read the
Winds. Rachel is really outstanding.

Name: Greger Anderssen [DS:V, CE😛M]
Clan: Malkavian
Group: 2
Capacity: 7
Discipline: dom pro AUS OBF
Camarilla Prince of Stockholm.

Greger is used in most Rachel deck as a support vampire, which can play
all cards except for the cards that require Dementation. Lack of the
primary discipline really hurts, but having an extra 7-cap Prince is
good, especially the Prince of Stockholm, whose title can be contested
only by the Praxis Seizure :)
In the Rachel deck Greger Anderssen usually works as the
blocker/bouncer, as he can play Telepathic Misdirections and Second
Traditions, and he has Protean to play Earth Meld after blocking. He
can also play Fifth Traditions to refill other vampires when needed and
Parity Shifts to regain some pool.

5. DECKS OF THE MONTH

Deck Name : mALK_!mALK protean party (TWD October 23, 2004 Quebec
Canada)
Author : Marc "Fouez" Desaulniers

Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 3 max: 10 average: 8.25
------------------------------------------------------------

4x Rachel Brandywine 10 AUS DEM OBF PRO ani prince Malk:3
2x Imogen 9 AUS DEM obf pro vic archbishop !Malk:2
3x Rodolfo 8 AUS DEM OBF pro bishop !Malk:3
2x Greger Anderssen 7 AUS OBF dom pro prince Malk:2
1x Midget 3 DEM obf pre !Malk:3

Library [90 cards]
------------------------------------------------------------

Master [15]
1x Bleeding the Vine
2x Blood Doll
1x Direct Intervention
1x Giant's Blood
2x Golconda: Inner Peace
4x Minion Tap
2x R-tschreck
1x Secure Haven
1x Vox Domini

Action [15]
4x Call, The
2x Entrenching
2x Fifth Tradition: Hospitality
5x Kindred Spirits
2x Sibyl's Tongue

Action Modifier [17]
4x Confusion
3x Elder Impersonation
2x Eyes of Chaos
4x Faceless Night
4x Lost in Crowds

Action Modifier/Combat [6]
2x Deny
4x Swallowed by the Night

Combat [15]
1x Bone Spur
2x Claws of the Dead
9x Earth Meld
3x Form of Mist

Equipment [1]
1x Winchester Mansion

Reaction [18]
1x My Enemy's Enemy
4x Telepathic Counter
6x Telepathic Misdirection
7x Wake with Evening's Freshness

Retainer [3]
1x J. S. Simmons, Esq.
1x Mr. Winthrop
1x Tasha Morgan

This is a tournament-winning deck from The Lasombra's TWD archive. Note
the primary differences between this deck and the "usual" Kindred
Spirits stealth-bleed deck:

1). Protean-based combat module that partially replaces usual bleed
module. Such decks rely on permanent bleed modifiers (Rachel and
Rodolfo have +1 bleed, and there are bleed-increasing retainers)
instead of packing a lot of single-use bleed cards. Low-capacity
Kindred Spirits decks cannot use permanent modifiers, since their
vampire are fragile and can be easily torporized.
2). Lower number of stealth cards. This corresponds to the lower number
of actions you need to cover, and Forms of Mist actually "replace"
stealth cards. Still, the deck should have some Spying Missions (IMHO),
especially since it usually bleeds for 3.
3). Relatively large number of reactions - this is typical for decks
with Protean; some of them even play Homunculus to untap and block the
dangerous actions. Marc's deck concentrates on defending against bleed,
though he can block with Mr. Winthrop or Telepathic Misdirection. The
chosen vampires are very expensive, and this deck simply cannot afford
being seriously bled.
4). A lot of blood-gaining cards (Giant's Blood, Entrenching, Fifth
Traditions) to recover blood lost in combat or returned with Minion
Taps.


Deck Name: She's a Cross-Eyed Beast (TWD March 29, 2003 Greensboro
NC)
Created By: David Cherryholmes

Crypt: (12 cards, Min: 23, Max: 40, Avg: 8.17)
----------------------------------------------
6 Rachel Brandywine ani AUS DEM OBF PRO 10, Malkavian, Prince
1 Quentin King III AUS DEM obf pre 7, Malkavian, Prince
2 Greger Anderssen AUS dom OBF pro 7, Malkavian, Prince
1 Anatole AUS DEM dom for OBF 8, Malkavian
1 Persia aus DEM obf 5, Malkavian
1 Adelaide Davis aus dem obf 4, Malkavian

Library: (80 cards)
-------------------
Master (18 cards)
1 Barrens, The
2 Dreams of the Sphinx
1 Fragment of the Book of Nod
1 Giant's Blood
4 Madness Network
1 Powerbase: Montreal
2 Rotschreck
6 Zillah's Valley

Action (11 cards)
1 Blessing of Chaos
3 Call, The
6 Kindred Spirits
1 Pulse of the Canaille

Action Modifier (15 cards)
6 Confusion
4 Elder Impersonation
5 Faceless Night

Political Action (4 cards)
1 Domain Challenge
1 Kindred Restructure
2 Parity Shift

Reaction (8 cards)
8 Second Tradition: Domain, The

Combat (18 cards)
3 Claws of the Dead
8 Earth Meld
2 Flesh of Marble
5 Form of Mist

Retainer (4 cards)
4 Homunculus

Equipment (2 cards)
2 Aaron's Feeding Razor

This deck is also from the TWD archive, but it's completely different.
Instead of a "regular" stealth-bleed deck, this one is a "combo" based
on Madness Network and Homunculus. At each player's untap phase your
vampires use their Homunculae to untap, then bleed after the minion
phase through Madness Network. Rachel would be able to bleed for 2
during each player's turn (for 10 pool minimum in a 5-player game),
which is really devastating.
Note the distinctive traits of a "combo" deck: SIX Zillah's Valley (to
get Rachel fast), two Dreams (to ALWAYS get Rachel fast or to cycle for
the combo parts), Barrens and Fragment of the Book of Nod (for the same
purpose). Note also that this deck has only Second Traditions as
reactions, nothing else.
This deck is strictly Malkavian, as Madness Network doesn't work for
!Malks, so this deck shouldn't appear in my newsletter, but there were
at least two good reasons to include it: firstly, it's very beautiful
(like most successful combo decks); and secondly, IMHO, it may be
improved by replacing all vampires without Protean by !Malks and
including some Sibyl's Tongues. Worth a try, doesn't it?

That's all for August,
As usual, all comments and ideas are appreciated,

Yours,
Ector
 
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Ector wrote:

> This deck is also from the TWD archive, but it's completely different.
> Instead of a "regular" stealth-bleed deck, this one is a "combo" based
> on Madness Network and Homunculus. At each player's untap phase your
> vampires use their Homunculae to untap, then bleed after the minion
> phase through Madness Network. Rachel would be able to bleed for 2
> during each player's turn (for 10 pool minimum in a 5-player game),
> which is really devastating.

Hey man, if you'd told me you were going to use the deck in a
newsletter, I could have given you an updated decklist. That list is
pretty old. For example, there wasn't any Sibyl's Tongue when I built
it. More importantly, Perfectionist hadn't been printed yet, either,
and that card makes this deck go nuclear. And the table-switchers are
illegal now. And actually, when Rachel pulses, she can bleed for 30
around the table.
 
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The main reason of
playing Form of Mist is "clearing the way" for all your vampires. Since

the card is rather cornercase, it's usually used in low quantities (2-3

copies).


CORNERCASE?!?
Are it that rare that your Malkaviens with dem or dom gets blocked when
bleeding???

/Bubbi
 
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bubbi_Bear@hotmail.com wrote:
> The main reason of
> playing Form of Mist is "clearing the way" for all your vampires. Since
>
> the card is rather cornercase, it's usually used in low quantities (2-3
>
> copies).
>
> CORNERCASE?!?
> Are it that rare that your Malkaviens with dem or dom gets blocked when
> bleeding???
>
It should be. The worst thing you can do against a stealth bleed deck
is try to block it without intercept or bounce. It just cycles their
bleed mods back into hand.
 
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Peter D Bakija wrote:
> Chris Berger wrote:
>
> > It should be. The worst thing you can do against a stealth bleed deck
> > is try to block it without intercept or bounce. It just cycles their
> > bleed mods back into hand.
>
> See, but the Form of Mist foils the intercept too--if I block your S+B,
> thinking "Huh. I have enough intercept to reliably stop you", I block you,
> and then you FoM for an additional +1 stealth, which hoses me unless I used
> a Forced.
>
> I'm not seeing Form of Mist as corner case in any situation.
>
It's cornercase only in that you have to expect to have an intercept
deck as your prey. Or a deck with only casual intercept that is
foolish enough to block you after they see the first FoM hit the table.

Which means it depends on your metagame. I was just responding to the
contention that it shouldn't be very rare for someone to block your S&B
deck. There are really 4 defenses for S&B - block, bounce, reduce, or
just take it and don't let them cycle. Blocking is generally the worst
of those defenses, and should only be used by a dedicated intercept
deck (and then, you have to hope that your intercept is better than
their stealth).

FoM isn't a cornercase card in general, but for S&B... I'm thinking
Earth Meld is better and FoM *might* be cornercase, based on how often
you expect to be blocked. It certainly *does* hose blocking.
 
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On Tue, 23 Aug 2005, Peter D Bakija wrote:

> See, but the Form of Mist foils the intercept too--if I block your S+B,
> thinking "Huh. I have enough intercept to reliably stop you", I block you,
> and then you FoM for an additional +1 stealth, which hoses me unless I used
> a Forced.
>
> I'm not seeing Form of Mist as corner case in any situation.

Agreed. It's also swell combat defense if you're being rushed by War
Ghouls or Shambling Hordes or Howler or pretty much anything that isn't
Grapple or Psyche! combat. It's even okay against Grapple and Psyche! if
you have a spare maneuver or extra Forms of Mist.

Form of Mist is even better against bounce. The bouncer will often
attempt to block so you'll play stealth. You know the drill. I've just
found that it works really well, especially when you've got some extra
bleeding to do after that.

Matt Morgan

(but that was last year's deck)
 
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Chris Berger wrote:

> It should be. The worst thing you can do against a stealth bleed deck
> is try to block it without intercept or bounce. It just cycles their
> bleed mods back into hand.

See, but the Form of Mist foils the intercept too--if I block your S+B,
thinking "Huh. I have enough intercept to reliably stop you", I block you,
and then you FoM for an additional +1 stealth, which hoses me unless I used
a Forced.

I'm not seeing Form of Mist as corner case in any situation.


Peter D Bakija
pdb6@lightlink.com
http://www.lightlink.com/pdb6

"So in conclusion, our business plan is to sell hot,
easily spilled liquids to naked people."
-Brittni Meil
 
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Now, don't get me wrong, it is a good deck, but if the whole table
doesn't immediately start shooting for you as though you just dropped
Arika on the table, there is some brain damage present... By the by,
how do Arika decks keep winning! Kill that bizzo!
~m
 
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On Tue, 23 Aug 2005, Peter D Bakija wrote:

> Chris Berger wrote:
>
>> It's cornercase only in that you have to expect to have an intercept
>> deck as your prey. Or a deck with only casual intercept that is
>> foolish enough to block you after they see the first FoM hit the table.
>
> I dunno--I think there are enough situations overall that mainlining, like,
> 10-12 or more Form of Mist in a bleedy deck is perfectly reasonable, as it
> works against getting blocked as well as stealth does, but also saves you in
> combat (which stealth doesn't do) and saves you when you block stuff (also
> which stealth doesn't do). I mean, like, yeah, if you are in a situation
> where you never get in combat *and* your prey refuses to block you *and* you
> can't block anyone, then you might choke on Form of Mist. But most of the
> time, you'll run into only one of these.

10-12 seems a little high to me, but in general I agree with the
sentiment. Also Rachel Brandywine and Rodolfo both have +1 bleed.
Assuming 1-2 more minions on the table, you're bleeding your non-blocking
prey for 5-6 every turn which is pretty much what most stealth bleed decks
aspire to do anyway.

That was my most-played deck for 2004. I won a 20 person tournament in
Baltimore with it, got 5th in a large qualifier and 20th at the NAC.
Trust me, it's good.

Matt Morgan
 
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Chris Berger wrote:

> It's cornercase only in that you have to expect to have an intercept
> deck as your prey. Or a deck with only casual intercept that is
> foolish enough to block you after they see the first FoM hit the table.

I dunno--I think there are enough situations overall that mainlining, like,
10-12 or more Form of Mist in a bleedy deck is perfectly reasonable, as it
works against getting blocked as well as stealth does, but also saves you in
combat (which stealth doesn't do) and saves you when you block stuff (also
which stealth doesn't do). I mean, like, yeah, if you are in a situation
where you never get in combat *and* your prey refuses to block you *and* you
can't block anyone, then you might choke on Form of Mist. But most of the
time, you'll run into only one of these.


Peter D Bakija
pdb6@lightlink.com
http://www.lightlink.com/pdb6

"So in conclusion, our business plan is to sell hot,
easily spilled liquids to naked people."
-Brittni Meil
 
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Matthew T. Morgan wrote:

> 10-12 seems a little high to me, but in general I agree with the
> sentiment.

With 10-12, I'm thinking along the lines of, like, a Proteolicious type deck
(i.e. weenie PRO/computer hacking or Obf/Pro computer hacking). In, like, a
S+B Obf/Dem/Pro deck, I'd probably go lower, like 6-8.

> Also Rachel Brandywine and Rodolfo both have +1 bleed.
> Assuming 1-2 more minions on the table, you're bleeding your non-blocking
> prey for 5-6 every turn which is pretty much what most stealth bleed decks
> aspire to do anyway.

Pretty much.

> That was my most-played deck for 2004. I won a 20 person tournament in
> Baltimore with it, got 5th in a large qualifier and 20th at the NAC.
> Trust me, it's good.

Yep--totally good.


Peter D Bakija
pdb6@lightlink.com
http://www.lightlink.com/pdb6

"So in conclusion, our business plan is to sell hot,
easily spilled liquids to naked people."
-Brittni Meil
 
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Peter D Bakija wrote:
> Chris Berger wrote:
>
> > It's cornercase only in that you have to expect to have an intercept
> > deck as your prey. Or a deck with only casual intercept that is
> > foolish enough to block you after they see the first FoM hit the table.
>
> I dunno--I think there are enough situations overall that mainlining, like,
> 10-12 or more Form of Mist in a bleedy deck is perfectly reasonable, as it
> works against getting blocked as well as stealth does, but also saves you in
> combat (which stealth doesn't do) and saves you when you block stuff (also
> which stealth doesn't do). I mean, like, yeah, if you are in a situation
> where you never get in combat *and* your prey refuses to block you *and* you
> can't block anyone, then you might choke on Form of Mist. But most of the
> time, you'll run into only one of these.
>
But in all situations other than being blocked, Earth Meld is better
than FoM. So I'd be tempted to remove several FoM's for Earth Melds.
But again, it depends on your metagame. If you expect to be blocked,
10-12 FoM's isn't out of the question. If you don't expect to be
blocked, 4 FoM's and 8 or so Earth Melds would be way better. For
probabilities in between, adjust FoM's and EM's accordingly. In either
case, Earth Meld is still useful when blocked and FoM is still useful
when you block or are rushed.

I'm really thinking that Protean is way too powerful currently - some
prevention, the best S:CE in the game by far, stealth, minor intercept,
probably the best agg damage other than daimoinen, plus utility stuff
like untap, maneuvers, presses, expensive additional strikes... Maybe
not as powerful as dominate, but still.
 
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nozleopeli@hotmail.com wrote:
> Now, don't get me wrong, it is a good deck, but if the whole table
> doesn't immediately start shooting for you as though you just dropped
> Arika on the table, there is some brain damage present... By the by,
> how do Arika decks keep winning! Kill that bizzo!

Killing Arika whereever she appears on the table as a knee-jerk reaction
just makes Arika's predator win -- it doesn't help you win.

- --
Derek

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david.cherryholmes@gmail.com wrote:
> Ector wrote:
>
> > This deck is also from the TWD archive, but it's completely different.
> > Instead of a "regular" stealth-bleed deck, this one is a "combo" based
> > on Madness Network and Homunculus. At each player's untap phase your
> > vampires use their Homunculae to untap, then bleed after the minion
> > phase through Madness Network. Rachel would be able to bleed for 2
> > during each player's turn (for 10 pool minimum in a 5-player game),
> > which is really devastating.
>
> Hey man, if you'd told me you were going to use the deck in a
> newsletter, I could have given you an updated decklist. That list is
> pretty old. For example, there wasn't any Sibyl's Tongue when I built
> it. More importantly, Perfectionist hadn't been printed yet, either,
> and that card makes this deck go nuclear. And the table-switchers are
> illegal now. And actually, when Rachel pulses, she can bleed for 30
> around the table.

David,
First of all, my newsletter doesn't include ANY offense to you or your
decklist. Moreover, when I wrote the newsletter, I was aware that there
were no Sibyl's Tongues at that time. I just suggested an exercise to
my readers - how the deck could be modified using the Tongues now?
Generally, I simply cannot request a new versions of the old decks I'm
going to cite from the famous and experienced players - this would be a
major nuisance for them. And, of course, I would be happy if you could
send me an updated version of the deck.

Yours,
Ector
 
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Matthew T. Morgan wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Aug 2005, Ector wrote:
>
> > Generally, I simply cannot request a new versions of the old decks I'm
> > going to cite from the famous and experienced players - this would be a
> > major nuisance for them.
>
> I think you're mistaken there. Most players find it flattering to have
> someone interested in a deck or wanting to include it in a newsletter. It
> can't hurt to ask. If the player doesn't respond or tells you to get
> lost, then just use the one in the TWD archive.
>
> Nice newsletter, by the way.
>
> Matt Morgan

I'm not famous nor particularly experienced and I do find it flattering
to see one of my deck in a newsletter. I don't have a new version of
that deck because I almost never play a tournament winning deck twice.
I also prefer to see decks from the TWD archive as they have proven
their validity in a competitive environment. I think that the best of
both worlds would be to include the original deck list and to ask the
author for possible updates or "tweaking keys". I know that I would try
to find a place for Mylan Horseed, 2-3 Spying Mission and 2-3 Confusion
of the Eyes in my deck.

BTW, I think that Earth Meld is broken and should cost 1 at supperior.
I also won another tournament with a deck with even more Earth meld and
Form of the Mist (Harmut's Corporation) 😉

Fouez
 
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On Wed, 24 Aug 2005, Ector wrote:

> Generally, I simply cannot request a new versions of the old decks I'm
> going to cite from the famous and experienced players - this would be a
> major nuisance for them.

I think you're mistaken there. Most players find it flattering to have
someone interested in a deck or wanting to include it in a newsletter. It
can't hurt to ask. If the player doesn't respond or tells you to get
lost, then just use the one in the TWD archive.

Nice newsletter, by the way.

Matt Morgan