Northwood C or Barton?

[Tigr_K157]

I´m not trying to start a FlameWar or anything, but I´m considering going from AMD to Intel. I´ve been on AMD since the dreaded K6-2, then K6-3, Classic Athlon, Athlon XP and now Thoroughbred... My question is about the heat in Intel CPU´s. I´m a bit tired of hearing all the fans in my AMD system, and was wondering if a 3GHz Northwood C would be a less noisy? I might even go water-cooled, but is there a difference in the heat generation between the Northwood C and the Barton???

 

[speeduk]

Bartons run cool at stock on a decent cooler and run slightly warm when heavily overclocked on a good cooler. Barton is basically the tbred core with more cache, so its safe to say it runs at similar temps as the tbred b core.

All I can say from personal experience is that my tbred 2100 sitting at 2.25ghz on a mid range cooler with a 80mm fan on low setting is running at a healthy 46C idle and 52C full load (on 1.825 volts). At stock 1733mhz, 1.6v 39 idle and 43 full load.

Note: Its a warm 27C in the room where the pc is.

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<font color=red> 120% overclocker </font color=red> (cheapskate)

 

[slvr_phoenix]

I think technically the top end P4c outputs more thermal energy than the top end AXP. However, the P4's die has a larger surface area which means a more efficient transfer of heat to the heatsink. So in the end, I think these factors basically cancel each other out more or less. I could be wrong though.

But basically, if you want to spend a small fortune on something like a watercooling kit, what difference would it make? 😉 Get something like an Antec Sonata case with two low-RPM 120mm fans to get good airflow with low noise.

There's also the combination of a big heat sink and a big fan for a quiet solution that's cheaper than water cooling. You could do my new favorite: a Thermalright SLK-900, a 92mm-to-120mm adapter, and a speed-adjustable 120mm fan. Or you could do my previous favorite: a Swiftech MCX, an 80mm-to-120mm adapter, and a speed-adjustable 120mm fan. Both should be fun. (Though I've never set up either ... yet. They just look good in theory.)

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[Tigr_K157]

LOL, thanks for the post, I´ll give your new favourite a try, I´ll look for a SLK-900 solution. Thanks slvr_phoenix!

 

[Ganache]

Right now, I have an AMD but if I would buy tomorrow, i would get a 2.6 2.8c 800Mhz bus and an Asus mobo.

 

[jmecor]

THe barton should run a little cooler than the 3ghz p4 at stock speed, but if you want good performance go with the northwood c p4.

 

[Crashman]

Generally P4's use larger heatsinks and fans. While this is not always true, it's true often enough to say that P4 systems are usually a little quieter due to less needed fan speed with the larger cooler. As I've stated, this is not always true, just more often than not.

And the K6-2 was a perfect processor in many ways. I've had hundreds of perfectly stable K6-2 systems go out of my shop into service, with no failures. The problems most people had with K6 series processors were caused not by the CPU, but by garbage chipsets. K6-2's worked perfectly when mated with the Intel TX chipset (although the Intel TX unfortunately didn't support AGP).

<font color=blue>Watts mean squat if you don't have quality!</font color=blue>