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Anyone tried either of these? I'm looking for something
like Diablo that isn't Diablo (heh) and these are on the
budget shelf at my local store.

I've already tried (and loved, to various degrees)
Diablo 1,2
Darkstone
BG1,2,ToB
NWN,SoU,HotU
IWD 1,2
Planescape Torment
Fallout1,2
M&M2,6,7
KOTOR 1

Thanks!
 
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Vidmouse wrote:

>Anyone tried either of these? I'm looking for something
>like Diablo that isn't Diablo (heh) and these are on the
>budget shelf at my local store.
>
>I've already tried (and loved, to various degrees)
>Diablo 1,2
>Darkstone
>BG1,2,ToB
>NWN,SoU,HotU
>IWD 1,2
>Planescape Torment
>Fallout1,2
>M&M2,6,7
>KOTOR 1
>
>Thanks!
>
>
>
>
Maybe Guild Wars if you don't mind going online?

Amund
 
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Amund Trovåg wrote:
> Vidmouse wrote:
>
>> Anyone tried either of these? I'm looking for something
>> like Diablo that isn't Diablo (heh) and these are on the
>> budget shelf at my local store.
>>
>> I've already tried (and loved, to various degrees)
>> Diablo 1,2
>> Darkstone
>> BG1,2,ToB
>> NWN,SoU,HotU
>> IWD 1,2
>> Planescape Torment
>> Fallout1,2
>> M&M2,6,7
>> KOTOR 1
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
> Maybe Guild Wars if you don't mind going online?
>
> Amund

What about 'Fate', if you can get past the DRM issues it is a very nice
Diablo clone... and only $20.

http://www.playfate.com
 
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Vidmouse wrote:

>Anyone tried either of these? I'm looking for something
>like Diablo that isn't Diablo (heh) and these are on the
>budget shelf at my local store.

The 1st chapter of "Siege of Avalon" was a free d'l IIRC so you could
check this out pretty easily. If you don't know any of the Gothic-series
you should try out these. And the best "Diablo"-clone might be "Sacred
Plus". There is also an add-on available "Sacred Underworld" which adds
about 40% to the world and introduces two new races.
 
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On that special day, Thomas Engler, (thomas.engler@gmx.de) said...

> And the best "Diablo"-clone might be "Sacred
> Plus". There is also an add-on available "Sacred Underworld" which adds
> about 40% to the world and introduces two new races.

Don't call Sacred a Diablo clone, or people will be disappointed after
trying it. It is a game in its own right, but might not appeal to hard
core Meph and Baal runners. There is no point in doing such things in
Sacred. And doing the same things over and over, although it is
possible, soon becomes quite tedious in this game.

It is more story oriented, and has a fixed map. There are differences
in the handling of runes. There are no runewords, and no gems with
fixed values (except for those two dragon thingies). So you are much
more dependent on chance, when planning certain builds. Especially when
the skills are built with runes which have to be found firsthand.

The way characters are built, is different, and there are no spell
synergies, except for maybe such weak ones as the hell power - hell
disk combo. As a result, there are way less variants of certain builds
running about than in Diablo.

The game is obviously inspired by Diablo, yet I would say, it is less
similar to Diablo than Darkstone.


Gabriele Neukam

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Gabriele Neukam <Gabriele.Spamfighter.Neukam@t-online.de> wrote:

>On that special day, Thomas Engler, (thomas.engler@gmx.de) said...
>
>> And the best "Diablo"-clone might be "Sacred
>> Plus". There is also an add-on available "Sacred Underworld" which adds
>> about 40% to the world and introduces two new races.
>
>Don't call Sacred a Diablo clone, or people will be disappointed after
>trying it. It is a game in its own right, but might not appeal to hard
>core Meph and Baal runners. There is no point in doing such things in
>Sacred. And doing the same things over and over, although it is
>possible, soon becomes quite tedious in this game.
>
>It is more story oriented, and has a fixed map. There are differences
>in the handling of runes. There are no runewords, and no gems with
>fixed values (except for those two dragon thingies). So you are much
>more dependent on chance, when planning certain builds. Especially when
>the skills are built with runes which have to be found firsthand.
>
>The way characters are built, is different, and there are no spell
>synergies, except for maybe such weak ones as the hell power - hell
>disk combo. As a result, there are way less variants of certain builds
>running about than in Diablo.
>
>The game is obviously inspired by Diablo, yet I would say, it is less
>similar to Diablo than Darkstone.

When I played Sacred (at the 1.6 patch level, I believe), it was full
of significant bugs. Also, it very much had the feel of a
single-player game with (broken) multiplayer functionality grafted on
as an afterthought just hours before release. These concerns were far
more disappointing than any dissimilarities to Diablo 2.



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"Vidmouse" <vidmouse@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Anyone tried either of these? I'm looking for something
> like Diablo that isn't Diablo (heh) and these are on the
> budget shelf at my local store.
>
> I've already tried (and loved, to various degrees)
> Diablo 1,2
> Darkstone
> BG1,2,ToB
> NWN,SoU,HotU
> IWD 1,2
> Planescape Torment
> Fallout1,2
> M&M2,6,7
> KOTOR 1
>
> Thanks!
>
>

Nox was pretty cool. For a budgt title? Definitely worth picking up.
 
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"Vidmouse" <vidmouse@yahoo.com> once tried to test me with:

> Anyone tried either of these? I'm looking for something
> like Diablo that isn't Diablo (heh) and these are on the
> budget shelf at my local store.

Nox is a solid action/RPG, not really that similar to Diablo but definitely
worth a look. Don't expect to be wowed by the graphics, it's pretty old,
after all. But they were good for their day and should run very smoothly on
any reasonably current gaming rig. The multiplayer that shipped with it was
"deathmatch" style but they released a free add-on (should be able to
download it somewhere) that allowed you to do co-op play.

> I've already tried (and loved, to various degrees)
> Diablo 1,2
> Darkstone
> BG1,2,ToB
> NWN,SoU,HotU
> IWD 1,2
> Planescape Torment
> Fallout1,2
> M&M2,6,7
> KOTOR 1

M&M 4/5 were the best in that series, IMHO. I recommend giving them a go.
MM8 was not bad and MM9 is pretty fun if you can forgive bugs.

You do not list these games which I consider good RPGs:

Wizardry 8 (or any late wizardry)
Gothic 1 & 2
Ultima 7 (hard to find this one though)
Divine Divinity (sort of ultima-meets-diablo2)


Someone else mentioned Sacred, I would say you can probably get a good 20
hours of fun out of it before it becomes repetitive. Maybe more if you're
persistant. I haven't tried it with the later patches, it might be much
improved. I've been thinking about reinstalling it, actually.

Good luck and have fun!

--

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Once a Gamer, Always a Gamer.
 
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I didn't enjoy Divine Divinity at all though I did enjoy Gothic 2 and
especially Wiz8 (one of my very top games of all time).

I tried Siege of Avalon but fairly quickly decided that I didn't enjoy
it at all. I never tried Nox.

Based upon the original poster's list I would strongly recommend KotOR
2 as that is almost as good of a game as KotOR 1.
 
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U¿ytkownik "Vidmouse" <vidmouse@yahoo.com> napisa³ w wiadomo¶ci
news:11bao6lr9l14pe9@corp.supernews.com...
> Anyone tried either of these? I'm looking for something
> like Diablo that isn't Diablo (heh) and these are on the
> budget shelf at my local store.
>
> I've already tried (and loved, to various degrees)
> Diablo 1,2
> Darkstone
> BG1,2,ToB
> NWN,SoU,HotU
> IWD 1,2
> Planescape Torment
> Fallout1,2
> M&M2,6,7
> KOTOR 1
>
> Thanks!

Divine Divinity!!!! Absolutely fantastic game.

M.
 
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Thus spake "Craig Hulett" <First.Last@comcast.net>, Sun, 19 Jun 2005
06:42:16 -0600, Anno Domini:

>Amund Trovåg wrote:
>> Vidmouse wrote:
>>
>>> Anyone tried either of these? I'm looking for something
>>> like Diablo that isn't Diablo (heh) and these are on the
>>> budget shelf at my local store.
>>>
>>> I've already tried (and loved, to various degrees)
>>> Diablo 1,2
>>> Darkstone
>>> BG1,2,ToB
>>> NWN,SoU,HotU
>>> IWD 1,2
>>> Planescape Torment
>>> Fallout1,2
>>> M&M2,6,7
>>> KOTOR 1
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>> Maybe Guild Wars if you don't mind going online?
>>
>> Amund
>
>What about 'Fate', if you can get past the DRM issues it is a very nice
>Diablo clone... and only $20.
>
>http://www.playfate.com

2nd that!

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Thusly "Vidmouse" <vidmouse@yahoo.com> Spake Unto All:

>I'm looking for something
>like Diablo that isn't Diablo

Kult: Heretic Kingdoms.

>Planescape Torment
>Fallout1,2
>KOTOR 1

Not much Diablo about those four, though...

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on video games has a potential detrimental effect on grades."
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Thusly Amund Trovåg <st08661@student.uib.no> Spake Unto All:

> I'm looking for something
>>like Diablo that isn't Diablo

>Maybe Guild Wars if you don't mind going online?

Nothing diablo about it except its pedigree, though.

"We also found that for university students, total time spent in the recent past
on video games has a potential detrimental effect on grades."
-- Anderson & Dill makes a Discovery, in 'Video Games and Aggressive Thoughts,
Feelings, and Behavior in the Laboratory and in Life'. 2004.
 
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Mean_Chlorine <mike_noren2002@NOSPAMyahoo.co.uk> once tried to test me
with:

>>I'm looking for something
>>like Diablo that isn't Diablo
>
> Kult: Heretic Kingdoms.

I forgot that one. I'll second this as a fun Diabloish game.

--

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Once a Gamer, Always a Gamer.
 
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"Knight37" <knight37m@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns967BD6FC0F9F1knight37m@130.133.1.4...
> Mean_Chlorine <mike_noren2002@NOSPAMyahoo.co.uk> once tried to test me
> with:
>
> >>I'm looking for something
> >>like Diablo that isn't Diablo
> >
> > Kult: Heretic Kingdoms.
>
> I forgot that one. I'll second this as a fun Diabloish game.
>
> --
>
> Knight37 - http://knightgames.blogspot.com
>
> Once a Gamer, Always a Gamer.

I just finished Kult. I can't recommend it. Graphics are 2D and
sluggish.30-40 fps on an A64 machine w 1GB ram!!
Many fedex type quests. Pretty difficult in the beginning but ridiculously
easy towards the end. Probably would have been better 4-5 years ago but I
don't know.It didn't really do anything for me.
>
 
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