Nvidia Announces GTX 1050 Ti, GTX 1050 Graphics Cards, But No Founder's Edition

[renz496]

If they come in at MSRP (or lower), I could see a 1050Ti in my future.

Some will, but it looks like they're going to populate a range of prices. Cable-equipped models with upgraded cooling and considerable binning/overclocking will command a decent premium.

...If the RX 470 was dropped to close to the price of the 1050 ti then AMD could have near complete control of the budget segment of video cards.

I will respectfully disagree. For new builders, you could be right. For people upgrading systems with dicey and/or under-powered PSUs, not needing a PCIe power cable is a Big Deal. This will be especially true if low-profile versions are released.

At current prices, sure. But if they DO drop the 470 down to around $150, it expands your options for upgrading an existing OEM box, if it's ATX. I'd be eyeing a fairly inexpensive ~450 Watt 80 Plus Bronze PSU. I mean even at regular prices you're looking at $40 for such a PSU.

Now if the funds aren't available for that, and your PSU is junk, then yeah 1050 is the way to go. If the machine is a slim model that can only use low-profile cards, obviously form factor is your biggest limiting... factor. So there will hopefully be some decent low-profile models. Time will tell.

you should look at what happen with 270 vs 750ti. this is segment where budget is very tight. and some of them just want to play games even on lowered setting instead of using their very weak integrated graphic. while they do care about "best bang for buck" their first priority will always "what best gpu i can get without changing anything else".

 

[Decends]

"AMD has already talked about cutting the 470's price to compete with the 1050ti. First leaks suggest the 1050ti was going to be $149 so I think we will see near the MSRP."

That doesnt make any sense, the 470 isnt in competition with the 1050ti, it should wipe the floor with it.

If you consider a 1060(6gp) and a 480 generally equal. 1060 faster in dx11, 480 faster in dx12. Lets just call them equal rather then argue which would be better.

The 1050ti is 40% less shaders, and 19% lower clock speed = ~51% cut off the 1060(6gb).

The 470 is 11% less shaders and 5% less clock speed = ~15% cut off the 480(8gb)

Even if we didnt call the 1060 and 480 equal, and we called the 480 75% of a 1060(which i dont even think a diehard nvidia fanboy would go that low)....then the 470 shoudl still be about 20% faster then the 1050ti.

The RX 470 is closest competitor to the 1050 Ti not counting the 1060. Besides there is rumors that the RX 470 was originally gonna be priced around $160 but because nvidia had nothing in the segment at launch AMD could afford to charge more for the RX 470. If the RX 470 was dropped to close to the price of the 1050 ti then AMD could have near complete control of the budget segment of video cards.

i think AMD never intend to price 470 that low. from what i can see that is people expectation of 470 price. because to most people AMD is cheap alternative. but if AMD did really price 470 at $150 that will also have to drop RX460 price further. they need to make some distance between 460 and 470 because the the gap of performance between the two. and ultimately AMD also need to make money. there are speculations that RX480 should be sold at much higher price. and if i remember correctly AMD said Polaris 10 will cover the price range up to $300.

even if 470 did come down to $150-$160 it is not a sure win for 470. back in 2014 something similar happen to 270 vs 750ti. amd drop 270 price down to $150 (from $200) to counter nvidia 750ti ($150) but for some people due to very limited budget and small power supply (250w-300w) they still end up choosing 750ti over 270.

At this point, GPU's have become pretty damn power efficient from both sides of the fence. Also the Rx 460 is going to need a price cut to fend off the regular 1050 since neither one has power pin and they are similarly priced. It is Rx 460 vs 1050. RX 470 vs 1050 ti. RX 480 vs 1060. RX 490 (if ever a thing) vs 1070. RX 490x (Again if ever a thing) vs GTX 1080. RX Fury (Vega) vs 1080 ti (if both end up being made). And last but not least. RX Fury X (Vega) (i think pattern is obvious by now) vs Titan XP.

 

[IceMyth]

Correct me, all AMD RX support VR right?
I went to GeForce website and checked for 1050 and seems it does not support VR, am I correct here? Also cant see if it supports SLI or not, I know 1060 does not but 1050 or 1050TI.

 

[TJ Hooker]

Correct me, all AMD RX support VR right?
I went to GeForce website and checked for 1050 and seems it does not support VR, am I correct here? Also cant see if it supports SLI or not, I know 1060 does not but 1050 or 1050TI.

Being 'VR Ready" comes down to whether a card is powerful enough to meet the requirements for VR. Most cards can technically support VR, but they aren't powerful enough to provide a good experience. Only select cards from either company are considered good enough for VR:
http://www.geforce.com/hardware/technology/vr/supported-gpus
http://www.amd.com/en-us/innovations/software-technologies/technologies-gaming/vr/vr-ready?utm_campaign=www.amd.com_vrready&utm_medium=redirect&utm_source=301

Also, no the GTX 1050/Ti do not support SLI. Neither does the 1060.

 

[renz496]

Correct me, all AMD RX support VR right?
I went to GeForce website and checked for 1050 and seems it does not support VR, am I correct here? Also cant see if it supports SLI or not, I know 1060 does not but 1050 or 1050TI.

no. VR is more about raw power. ideally the minimum gpu required for VR still RX480. with Oculus ASW the requirement has been lowered to GTX960 and AMD RX470. so RX460 still did not meed the minimum requirement needed for VR. as for SLI nvidia low end no longer get SLI support since long ago. with pascal they extend that to one step higher with 1060.