Nvidia Found Guilty of Infringing Rambus Patents

[skit75]

[citation][nom]theubersmurf[/nom]They could possibly license it if they're into production already. It would provide them a way to get their cards out in a timely way, even if WE have to pay licensing fees.[/citation]
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In my opinion, you are not late to the DirectX 11.0 game unless there is a game we all want to play in DirectX 11.0.

 

[rick_h]

RAMBust are the most unethetical company in high tech. These assholes took technology that was being discussed in an open source forum and patented the technology and sued the people who developed the technology to begin with. These people are scoundrels and I hope that Nvidia wins their appeal.

 

[guderiancol]

rasmus and amd only make money in the courts,,,,lawyers figtht

 

[steve9207]

And I remember back in the day when I was going away to college and Rambus released the 'new' RDRAM that was supposedly superior that I got in my pre-configured Dell. What a pain in the ass (and costly) that turned out to be when I wanted to upgrade 5 years later! Oh well, live and learn...not just on the RAM, but on the pre-built systems too, 😉

 

[theubersmurf]

[citation][nom]skit75[/nom]FIXEDIn my opinion, you are not late to the DirectX 11.0 game unless there is a game we all want to play in DirectX 11.0.[/citation]I'm not paying for nVidia's cards anymore anyway, nor Rambus' patents. 😛

 

[intelliclint]

The problem is the Rambus has patients on memory interfaces that were suppose to be open standards. The patients effect ATI as well.

 

[Gin Fushicho]

So they figured Nvidia does not have enough trouble?

 

[omnimodis78]

[citation][nom]dingumf[/nom]Nvidia is finished bro.1. No Fermi (1.7% and all the rest of it)2. Rambus3. ATI already have their next gen DX11 cards out4. By the time Fermi is released ATI will have the 6000 series cards.It truly is over. Nvidia is dead.[/citation]
LOL! I am torn between leaving at that or actually elaborating. Nvidia is not done, far from it my friend, but let's hope that in 2 years you will remember your post and repost it so we can hall have a really good laugh!

 

[lueszu]

[citation]Fermi uses GDDR5. This should not affect it. The lower end stuff that they keep rebranding that uses GDDR3 would be though.[/citation]

not directly, but the overall cost of the legal proces plus the money they would have to pay to settle... besides, the first fermi generation is gonna be the high end... to keep this kind of company alive, you need to hit the mainstream... and nvidia is months late, now they had lose 10% market share to ATI... and fermi MAYBE is gonna be ready for late February if not in March... is gonna be tough for nvidia this months...

 

[Guest]

1. No Fermi (1.7% and all the rest of it)
2. Rambus
3. ATI already have their next gen DX11 cards out
4. By the time Fermi is released ATI will have the 6000 series cards.

1. Fermi is coming out on march 10th and the yields are already over 40%
2. This does not affect Fermi since Fermi is ddr5 which was not on of the patents infringed upon.
3. So? I still don't even need dx10.
4. Not true since AMD's roadmap shows the next series coming out Q4 of this year if they stay on schedule.

Does no one else remember the fx series? Nvidia was in way more trouble back then then they are now, and they still survived. I remember what nvidia was "finished" and when athlon 64 came out how intel was "finished" and how when conroe came out intel was "finished". It's a cycle people, get over it. Whoever has the newest tech inevitable wins when you have two companies going at it for many years. Right now the company with the newer tech just happens to be ATI.

 

[nforce4max]

Typical greed and politics holding back the progress of technology and civilization like clock work. It is bad enough as it is which the media monopoles trying to crack down on the net so they can line their pockets while free human expression pays a price while tyrannical governments couldn't be any happier.

 

[carlhenry]

[citation][nom]fatkid35[/nom]the hits just keep on coming for nvidia. whats next? a sex tape?!!![/citation]

a steroscopic 3d and physx enabled sex tape. (you can only run it on an nvidia gpu to watch it smoothly)

 

[theubersmurf]

[citation][nom]intelliclint[/nom]The problem is the Rambus has patients on memory interfaces that were suppose to be open standards. The patients effect ATI as well.[/citation]That wasn't really what I was saying, I just said it badly. I'm not paying for nVidia's gpus anymore, nor rambus' patents on nVidia's gpus. Sorry, I realized it was unclear when I posted, but no edit function...

 

[theubersmurf]

[citation][nom]carlhenry[/nom]a steroscopic 3d and physx enabled sex tape. (you can only run it on an nvidia gpu to watch it smoothly)[/citation]pure win...lolled

 

[Hupiscratch]

As previously said, no hardware company can be called "BIG" if it hasn´t been sued by Rambus.

 

[Nexus52085]

[citation][nom]otacon72[/nom]How so? If Rambus has full claim on those patents they are going to get hundreds of millions of dollars and they could demand Nvidia stop importing any RAM that infringe on those patents. Will it come to that? Of course not, but Nvidia is going to have to pay some hefty licensing fees from here on out unless they can make their RAM that use the Rambus patents. Is Nvidia going to fold? Nah I doubt it but instead of calling someone stupid why not contribute something to the forum? You're the only one that looks stupid.[/citation]
Well, making blanket assumptions like "Nvidia is finished" as opposed to "Nvidia could be finished if..." is not the smartest thing to say. We don't know if Rambus has full claims to all of those patents, for one. Two, Nvidia only makes a fraction of its money in the U.S. Even if Nvidia had to stop selling all of their products in America, which they wouldn't, that still wouldn't kill Nvidia by a long shot. It would put a small dent in their yearly revenue. Three, fermi, during its early, unfinished development, is already far ahead of the AMD 5000 series cards, so the 6000 series won't be that much better, if at all. Finally, DX 11 is pretty insignificant when you're talking about graphics cards. All Nvidia has to do is release a DX 11 card and bam, ladies and gentlemen, problem solved. I apologize for the overstatement when I called you stupid, but I wouldn't call Nvidia finished before this lawsuit is even over. I wouldn't even call Nvidia finished if the court ruled in Rambus's favor.

 

[anamaniac]

If I saw a headline saying all the lawyers and heads of Rambus were assasinated overnight, I think I'd switch back to Nvidia.

 

[jfem]

many things going bad for nvidia.

 

[Guest]

Rambus is still around? I thought they died along with RDRAM.

 

[dargon_supreme]

Everybody knows Rambus has more lawyers than engineers. They only use patents to sue other companies and make money with almost no effort. It is a shame.

 

[kartu]

[citation][nom]NaturalViolence[/nom]1. No Fermi (1.7% and all the rest of it)2. Rambus3. ATI already have their next gen DX11 cards out4. By the time Fermi is released ATI will have the 6000 series cards.1. Fermi is coming out on march 10th and the yields are already over 40%2. This does not affect Fermi since Fermi is ddr5 which was not on of the patents infringed upon.3. So? I still don't even need dx10.4. Not true since AMD's roadmap shows the next series coming out Q4 of this year if they stay on schedule.Does no one else remember the fx series? Nvidia was in way more trouble back then then they are now, and they still survived. I remember what nvidia was "finished" and when athlon 64 came out how intel was "finished"[citation][nom]Nexus52085[/nom]Well, making blanket assumptions like "Nvidia is finished" as opposed to "Nvidia could be finished if..." is not the smartest thing to say. We don't know if Rambus has full claims to all of those patents, for one. Two, Nvidia only makes a fraction of its money in the U.S. Even if Nvidia had to stop selling all of their products in America, which they wouldn't, that still wouldn't kill Nvidia by a long shot. It would put a small dent in their yearly revenue. Three, fermi, during its early, unfinished development, is already far ahead of the AMD 5000 series cards, so the 6000 series won't be that much better, if at all. Finally, DX 11 is pretty insignificant when you're talking about graphics cards. All Nvidia has to do is release a DX 11 card and bam, ladies and gentlemen, problem solved. I apologize for the overstatement when I called you stupid, but I wouldn't call Nvidia finished before this lawsuit is even over. I wouldn't even call Nvidia finished if the court ruled in Rambus's favor.[/citation]
and how when conroe came out intel was "finished". It's a cycle people, get over it. Whoever has the newest tech inevitable wins when you have two companies going at it for many years. Right now the company with the newer tech just happens to be ATI.[/citation]

It's not a cycle in this case, but it's an advantage of dominating the market. You can screw up badly for years (as Intel did) and still force companies to use your product, if you initialy had like 90% of the market. The same story goes to nVidia, they had like what, 70%+ of the market before the "oh, Fermi comes one day" and "who needs dx11 anyway"?

 

[kartu]

[citation][nom]Nexus52085[/nom]Three, fermi, during its early, unfinished development, is already far ahead of the AMD 5000 series cards...[/citation]
Oh, is it? Are you prophesying or have you seen real benchmarks?

 

[jsc]

RAMBUS, the gift that keeps on giving.

 

[maynardman10]

Nvidia needs to call it a day. Their business practicing are finally catching up with them.

 

[roofus]

Well ATI/AMD posted a profit so Rambus will be looking in their direction soon enough. Did Rambus replace their product engineers with patent lawyers? No wait, they never made anything of their own silly me.