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Yeah I was going to leave it, but when you mentioned the megathread here, I thought it would be best to move it anyways. I love this merging feature, it makes things like this so much easier. 😀
 
Speaking of cooling. Has anyone sighted any tests of the bottomline 1080's(i.e. $599), stripped of the blower fan and put "under water"? I am curios if they'll perform just as well as the high end cards with custom pcb's and coolers.
 


Ah yeah, Steven's DIY ^^
Forgot about that. Looks promising.
 



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Haha, am gonna jump on Youtube now and see if Jayz has done any more 1080 stuff. Last time I looked he'd done a vid but had no benchmarks claiming there was a 'non disclosure agreement'. Lots of other websites though had posted benchmarks.
 
kingpin oc'ed a card to 2.8 ghz on LN2 but it was not a reference card but rather a HOF edition we have not seen yet in the wild :) and of course it had a custom bios to up the voltage a bunch.

http://forums.videocardz.com/topic/1482-kingpin-overclocks-gtx-1080-to-2835-mhz/
 
Woah, look what I found. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXUo1S55ZUM

This is a straight case in my opinion for totally avoiding the FE card. 1080 FE's are thermal throttling back to base clock under just 1440p max settings load of Crysis 3.

What I kind of said quite a way back. Nvidia coolers are not nearly as good, and someone agreed. This is more throttling that I ever imagined though.
 

This is one of the most overblown non-issues. The fact is, that the clock speed behavior is exactly the same as every reference card ever since Turbo Boost was invented. If you have a reference card of any vintage, even those with the "Titan" cooler, you will run most of the time at the base clock speed. And then it got kind of funny as I was typing this because Jayztwocents said exactly the same thing.

Now does it impact performance? That is the question. Do fluctuations in the clock speed result in stutter?

No.
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Overall we can say that the GeForce GTX 1080 performed exemplarily in the ten FCAT tests we ran it through. Three out of ten tests were DirectX 12 enabled as well. The end-score is a whopping 10 out 10, all games passed our examination easily without any noticeable stutters or anomalies, and that is pretty terrific if you ask me.
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/fcat_geforce_gtx_1080_framepacing_review,16.html
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And what about performance?
Again no. The Gigabyte G1 has a +5% factory overclock over the reference card.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Gigabyte/GTX_1080_G1_Gaming/24.html
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I'm not sure you caught this part in my post:
"And then it got kind of funny as I was typing this because Jayztwocents said exactly the same thing."

My point is, so what if clock speeds hover around their base clock? It's nothing new and doesn't affect performance any more than adding a factory overclock to a custom cooled card. You sort of have to have owned a reference GTX with the NVTTM cooler on it to really understand that this is a non-issue.
 
I don't know. I am not an expert. You win. I give up and don't wanna argue TYVM.

I saw Jayz say the FE clocks back to base clock within about three seconds of starting up Crysis 3. Whereas when he reviews the EVGA reference card with the 3.0 whatever cooler, it runs at 1800+ MHz. Presumably the EVGA and other manufacturer cards are good for overclocking. The FE is not.

That is what I passing on for whosever benefit. Jayz also went on to say you can up the power limit on the FE card, and the fan speed. The you can run a boost clocks. However that's more hassle than I need and was passing that on..

The issue that alarms me is that Jayz says is that the 1080 is a hot chip. All his his buddies were saying the same. To me that means other manufacturers only. I thought I was being kind raising it.
 
Ugh... I side with 17seconds on this "boost speed" issue.

As long as it does not drop from the *base* clocks, then it should be a non-issue. Just like Intel's turbo boost, you should never ever think that will be the *average* speed of your CPU. It's just some kind of "free OC" the CPU does for you whenever it can.

I am one of the people that actually like the concept of Turbo, even if it means harder OC. For the average user it's a terrific way of extracting more performance whenever it's possible.

So in short, like 17seconds says, as long as the actual gaming experience is not degraded, it's a non-issue. If they start reporting the card is dropping from *base* clocks, then it might become an issue, since throttling that much could be indication of a bigger issue (thermal management, insufficient cooling, etc).

Cheers!
 
In any case blower type cooler will never match the performance of open air type cooler. But there are some situation where blower type will be advantageous (small or mini itx case).

And ever since the existence of boost i never really care about ocing my gpu anymore
 
I think the problem with the FE is that the 1080 chip runs hot. That is what was discussed in that video. Note within the first 30 seconds of the video. Jayz says, "Why every reviewer on youtube of the FE was reporting high temps."

See 2:20 in the vid to see him saying everyone was complaining about high temps with their FE.

At 9:50 in the vid he says the clocks speeds are bouncing around all over the place.

The FE hit high temps, 87'C. That was when he removed the 82'C Nvidia throttle, and the 100% power throttle. (Jayz set it to 92'C and 120% power.)

High temps might actually be a characteristic if FinFET transistors. I dunno though.

While he discusses it's not such an issue, he discusses that Nvidia shows the card running at 67'C. Nvidia boasted them as being low.

@renz496, I never really overclocked a video card. I prefer longevity over live hard die fast. (I used to increase my 32 Cuda core 9600M GT years ago by only a few Hz. I was too worried to do any more. I like the overclock on other manufacturer cards though.

My GTX 980 has a base clock of 1178Mhz, and a boost of 1279MHz. However the card clocks up to 1328MHz.

Then when I go to Asus GPU tweak Gaming mode inrceases clock by 20Hz and it shows up as 1299MHz in GPU-Z. However it still doesn't go over 1328MHz. I was hoping the boost clock would scale up. See I know nothing much about OC-ing. I think I will have to push the clock speed above 1328MHz to see it go any faster in games.

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Conclusion I think the Nvidia FE is a good card, but obviously there are better. Jayz does the EVGA Nvidia reference with an EVGA 3.0 cooler and it never throttles. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22ePLtROm6I Same card.

As someone else said then, only put the FE in small form factor case with no case cooling. (Or pay more for less performance.)
 
In nvidia case they do the run mostly on open bench with the room have good air conditoning. Also instead of letting the driver handle the fan speed if you want better temperature it is better using your own fan curve. By default most gpu prioritize noise over temperature. Remember GTX480/470? they got very hot up to 94c with default fan profiles. But most user with reference 480/470 never use default fan setting instead creating their own curve and able to maintain the temps in mid 70s even if they end up a bit noisy.

And with how nvidia limiting their cards in term of OC since kepler generation any OCing done on current gen nvidia card should not affect it's lifespan. nvidia already explain this when they start limiting the voltage range allowed to be used by board partner. In their defence too much voltage will shorten the lifespan of the silicon.
 
I just ordered a Gigabyte 1070 G1 Gaming from Amazon. It was back-ordered so I have no idea when I will actually get it but it is the first time I have seen a non-Founders Edition card available on Amazon for it's regular price ($429.99) so I pulled the trigger.

I already sold my SLI 970s so I have been itching to get a 1070 and Gigabyte is the first to let me order a custom model so I guess they will get my business. I am going to continue checking Amazon a couple times per day to see if another model I like is available to ship sooner though.
 
the g1 looks pretty good as does the strix and gaming x cards. they all tested very well and ran cool and quiet. i don't think you can go wrong with any of the custom cards. performance should be near identical so that's not a concern. the strix has won my respect with the last few gens of cards as has the evga cards. i tend to favor them due to consistent quality. but some of the others are just really freaking cool looking. that extreme x with the overlapping fans is almost the coolest looking card i have seen so far other than those over the top ichill x4 cards.
 


Ahhhh $429.99 for a 1070 G1 *sigh*.

Congats and good luck.

That's £303 in sterling. It's a 980 Ti beater in every way and most benchmarks if not all. However we would pay about £550 usual price for 980 Ti.

(EDIT: Wow I just found an Asus Strix 980 Ti on Amazon for £420.)

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I keep wondering what the price performance ratio will be with 1080 and 1070.
 
OC3D has done an MSI 1080 Gaming X SLI review. something folks have been hoping to see which is some testing done right. looks interesting with the sli matching QUAD 980's in 3DMark!!! sadly the quad numbers don't follow into the games but it is rather telling anyway.

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games show the same as the other reviews of 1080 sli. some impressive scaling at nearly 100% for some games but then a lot of negative gains for many games. i'm sure they will improve drivers as they go but right now, seems like they leave a lot to be desired this early in the game.
 


I'm happy with my G1 order. The only thing that gives me pause is that the G1 1070 only has two heat pipes while the G1 1080 has three. I'm also upgrading from SLI EVGA 970s which also had three heat pipes.

The Gigabyte engineer team is obviously exponentially smarter than me about this stuff and if they decided two heat pipes were enough they are most likely right. If that is the case why put three pipes in the G1 1080 though?
 
ran across this for our Linux users out there. some benchmarks for the 1070 and 1080 FE's on Linux for those who lean that way. http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=nvidia-gtx-1070&num=1 and http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=nvidia-gtx-1080&num=1


also see an EVGA FTW 1080 review http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2016/06/15/evga-geforce-gtx-1080-ftw-review/1 first evga review i have seen and it's the ftw card. YAH!!!!

another iChill x3 review http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/93623-inno3d-geforce-gtx-1080-ichill-x3/ one of the few with oc'ed memory as well as gpu.
 


It will be Titan only until they have some competition. Nvidia only releases TI cards to counter AMD, so if AMD doesn't have anything that even matches up to the 1080, there will not be a 1080 TI. I doubt anyone who buys a 1070 will be unhappy, but anyone who buys a 1080 to have the "top end" might be disappointed.
 
Part of the reason the 1080 runs hot is the smaller die size (not talking about the node shrink I'm talking about the die) which means it has reduced surface area in contact with the heatsink. In addition, Pascal is a less efficient architecture than Maxwell (ever so slightly), so if you take into consideration higher power requirements with a smaller die size, that is why Pascal GPUs require better cooling than Maxwell.
 
Hi, all.

I've decided I'm going to jump from my Gigabyte GTX 970 GAMING-4GD to one of the 1080 options that have been announced. Right now I'm running an ASUS PG279Q monitor and while most of the games I play look nice, I'm no longer able to play those games at max settings - I love eye candy, so I need (well... want) to upgrade. I was looking at one of the 980Ti options when the 1080 hype really started rolling, so I decided to hold off and instead upgraded the rest of my hardware while I was waiting. (Now running ASRock FATAL1TY Z170 GAMING K4, Intel I7-6700, 32GB Ripjaws V PC4-25600, and EVGA SuperNOVA 850 G2 in my CoolerMaster HAF932 case.)

I've been a fan of EVGA and Gigabyte for a few years now, so I was primarily looking at these two options:

EVGA FTW GAMING ACX 3.0 (08G-P4-6286-KR)
Gigabyte Xtreme Gaming

Eyeballing the available specs from the manufacturer, it seems like both cards are pretty similar. Is that accurate? Or am I missing anything that might make me consider one over the other? Or is it more a matter of jumping on whichever happens to pop up somewhere first?

Thanks in advance!
 
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