Nvidia GeForce GTX 1000 Series (Pascal) MegaThread: FAQ and Resources

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To add to Mousemonkey's, my right hand machine is STILL a 2xSLI 970 with an i7 -4790k (a little over 2 years now). My left hand is busy with whatever's new, currently i7 5930K Asus Founders Edition 1080. I've built 'em all, 750 Ti's, 950's, 960's, Titan X, 980's, R9 Fury X's, 980 Ti's. Based on a weeks worth of 1080 play I'd personally WAIT OUT the Founder's edition, try your 970 SLI's for the experience and pick up the 1080 when the big boys start putting their fingerprints on 'em and they hit the shelves. I "needed" the 1080 to know what to tell clients, but I really think Pascal has a lot more potential than this first card shows. But it is brutally fast...'though I oc'd a 980 Ti Hybrid that's close, too!
 

So basically we can come to a conclusion. The author/person in the video contradict themselves many times lmao. Well...I this is the guy who brought you bench marking of sli pascal with two different cards and also on a pcie extender.

 


i've been waiting for a decent one though there have been a few others. guru3d was close but needs to revisit their review (as they state they will when things settle down) and i posted a malaysian FE sli review a few days ago but it was rather short though it was telling in what it did show.

overall it seems that 4k is about the only reason to sli the 1080's if at all. i am curious as how 1070's will do as well. i am thinking 4k scaling that might be that last little bit the 1080 is lacking for true 60 fps 4k gaming. you know that last 20% or so the 1080 needs to truly nail 4k resolutions. they are pretty good now just not quite there yet. that's what i am hoping 1070 sli will do. i thought i posted a 1070 sli review already but i may be mistaken. if i find it again i'll be sure to repost it.
 


thanks for the link. i scan 20+ sites a day but do not venture into youtube/twitch land so i am grateful for those videos that others bring in :) keep em coming, i like to watch them but don't have the time to look for them!!
 
some pics of the msi seahawk 1080 EK. seems EK made a custom waterblock for the cards. looks much better than the generic blower/rad combo of the regular seahawk. a pure water cooled card http://videocardz.com/61125/msi-geforce-gtx-1080-sea-hawk-ek-ships-with-custom-water-block

MSI-GTX-1080-Sea-Hawk-8.jpg
 


They are like the smallest overclocks in history though, was prob just case of sending the "OC" bios versions to review.

Not a big deal IMO.
 
of course not and once it is oc'ed and tested it is above these frequencies anyway. it's more of the idea than anything else to me anyway that they would feel the need to "tweak" things just a bit. i'm sure it is probably normal practice to send out "optimized samples" to reviewers. but still makes me feel a bit yucky inside....
 
i had noticed they were posting daily links to reviews other places but did not know they had a separate database to list them as well. thanks :)

these links have shown me a few sites i did not know about as well. no idea how respectable they all are but i'm hoping most are at least mostly respected by the tech community. do you happen to know of any sites that are just known for poor work? so far they all seem decent to me.
 
All of the major sites are pretty good. It's when you run across a site you never heard of before and they have very limited testing, then you need to be wary.

For me, there is a list of about a dozen or so sites that are the best of the best, and I stray beyond those mostly out of curiosity.

Unfortunately, Scott Wasson from the Tech Report was co-opted/hired by AMD, so that site is no longer on my list of trusted sites for now.
www.techreport.com/blog/29390/into-a-new-era
 
i went bookmark crazy and am slowly culling the list. should get down to a solid 20 sites of so with way fewer being really useful. it's pretty quick to go down the list and see what is new so i don't really worry about how many there are. i just want them to be quality. i'll scan 100 a day if they are all worthwhile. :)
 
Hasn't watercooling GPU's pretty much become an enthusiast-only thing that generally won't lead to increased performance? From what I know, modern aircooling solutions have caught up and made watercooling pretty much unnecessary for anything other than pure aesthetics, unless if you want a -possibly- quieter system.
 
this is true for cpu's but there are some good reasons to watercool gpu's. especially if you want to run multiple cards. they fit so close together it is hard to get air between them. 2 of those very skinny cards would not have this issue. plus some folks just like the way it looks. never done it myself but i am toying with the idea of a custom loop for everything. not for cooling as much as for the experience as well as the way i can make the inside of my case look. some of those builds with colorful tubes, nicely shaped and glowing is just really neat and i want it too!!! 😀

it probably won't do much for the 1080 cards but this won't stop folks from getting them. ek makes good waterblocks and they can be expensive. so if one can be had already on the card out of the box for less, then it would be a good deal for someone wanting an open loop solution for their gpu.
 


A proper watercooled system is quieter than an average HDD. You can achieve that with lots of fans running really slow on an aircooled solution but you multiply the amounts of dust you have to deal with.

It is an enthusiast thing, though. Mainly because of the rocket-science-level cost for only a tad better cooling performance.
 
my end goal water cool cpu/gpu.. not only because of the "it looks cool" but also from a perspective of working parts and the knowledge. especially if i start doing home pc repair or building for customers id like to be comfortable and not "oh i dont wanna touch that or it break"
 


Oooo interesting! I was planning on purchasing a 1080 and go with an open watercooling solution.

I've been waiting on the msi GTX 1080 Gaming X to get it's bottom back in stock. I was then planning on gutting it and picking up a compatible EK block (supposedly releasing end of June) and storing that nice custom shroud in its box.
The reason I've been waiting is due to one thing...re sell value. I decided that last gen's msi gaming X cards held their value the most and are the cards which sold the quickest.

When it's time to sell, I can just pack that beatiful shroud back on, put her back in her box and send it to the next person. This is why I'd be scared to go with the MSI GeForce GTX 1080 SEA HAWK EK.A small portion of gamers seek top end cards. An even smaller portion of gamers seek top end cards and plan to open loop cool them. I'd assume, that say in a years time, you will have a VERY hard time trying to sell your used MSI GeForce GTX 1080 SEA HAWK EK.

What are your thoughts on this? That is the logic spinning through my head at the moment.
 
that's another reason i want to do it as well. would look good sitting in my office when clients come buy. all nice and pretty like. i have done a few AIO set-ups. h60 and h100 a few times. never tried custom loops. figured be better to screw my own stuff up if needed before trying it on a client's stuff. my brother is a glass blower so i figured he could help me with bending the tubes and doing that all pretty like with maybe even some unique custom flair once we figure out how easy the stuff is to work with. i guess it is glass tubes but don't really know.
 


i never really look at resell value for pc parts. i expect them to be almost worthless when i am done with them and are all but given away. i currently use old parts like gpu's for cheap upgrades to client pc's. often they don't need much and a couple gen old gpu is plenty. so i hold on to them and sell em cheap that way. plus i fix up and give away old pc's through a church non-profit i work with. we get a ton donated and often some stuff don't work. so i save old pieces for this work as well. cpu's and ram are always handy to have on hand to beef up an old pc.

what i am wondering is overall cost of this card vs buying the card and waterblock separate. they run $100 easy on top of the card cost. so i wonder if it'll work out cheaper to get this card with block included for less overall cost. have not seen a price for it yet but i imaging it won't be on the low end of pricing. $700 at least maybe more.
 


The hardest thing about creating an open loop is having to do multiple bends on the one length of tubing. If your measurements are not spot on it is just a massive pain. The actual hard part itself is not the measurement, it when trying to control where your tube bends...you want it to be bending right on the exact point you have marked. As you can already imagine, a couple mm's off at each bend and it won't fit 😛
 
so the tubes are made of glass? my brother can do some pretty cool stuff with glass, with some extra tubing to practice on, i'd hope he could get it right :)

he makes those glass figurines you can buy at the mall kiosks. plus he supplies a couple headshops on the side for some extra income.
 
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