Nvidia GeForce RTX 2080 Ti Founders Edition Review: A Titan V Killer

[jimmysmitty]

In average, the 2080 TI is around 25-30% average faster than a 1080 TI... for double the cost...

There is no bad products, only bad prices.

Not 100% true. There have been plenty of bad products. Netburst, Phenom I/Bulldozer and even some GPUs.

It's a shame they didn't make the cooler shroud gold plated. It would match the insane asking price.

I suppose if someone has already spent tons of money to have 4k resolution, $1200 probably isn't that much more for them to be able to achieve it. For the average consumer, the real excitement will probably happen once the 2060 and 2070 has been released.

The real excitement will take place if AMD can produce something close to the 2080 Ti in performance. Look at what the Ryzen processor did to Intel prices and product offerings!?

For consumers, competition is king. Right now, there is none.

Current info though shows that Vega 7nm wont do that. I don't think AMD will until they move past GCN as their base. It gets stuck with lower clock speeds and more power draw.

 

[bloodroses]

It's a shame they didn't make the cooler shroud gold plated. It would match the insane asking price.

I suppose if someone has already spent tons of money to have 4k resolution, $1200 probably isn't that much more for them to be able to achieve it. For the average consumer, the real excitement will probably happen once the 2060 and 2070 has been released.

The real excitement will take place if AMD can produce something close to the 2080 Ti in performance. Look at what the Ryzen processor did to Intel prices and product offerings!?

For consumers, competition is king. Right now, there is none.

Very true. Hopefully the rumors of Intel entering the GPU ring will happen as well. A third player would be really nice since it appears AMD has been sliding backwards in the GPU department for too long.

 

[bit_user]

The forged aluminum shroud cannot be completely disassembled without the use of force (or a special tool we don't have—force is looking like the better option at this point).

These guys did it:
[video="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9FtXZGQzfM"]RTX FE Cooler Tear-Down & Secrets of NVIDIA's Apple-Like Design[/video]

The "special tool" turns out to be a heat gun.

Unfortunately, after all that work, they failed to provide a good view of the fin stack. You can't tell how deep they go, or quite what the airflow situation is, in there.

 

[bit_user]

It's a shame they didn't make the cooler shroud gold plated. It would match the insane asking price.

It's the same price as Titan Xp, which also wasn't gold colored. For gold, you'd have to go up to the $3k Titan V.

 

[Ninjawithagun]

Nice performance increase. However, one has to ask is it worth paying 100% more the price of a GTX1080Ti (currently trending at ~$600) for only 30-40% performance increase? No.

Lower the price of the RTX 2080 Ti to around $1000 or a bit less, then we'll talk ;-)

 

[Ninjawithagun]

JUST BUY IT!!!

Uh, no.

 

[Scott_123]

"But what if we told you it also beats Nvidia’s Titan V? In Battlefield 1, GeForce RTX 2080 Ti is 20% faster. In Forza Motorsport 7, the 2080 Ti enjoys a 22% advantage. Based on the two cards’ specifications, we weren’t expecting such a dramatic finish. Although the $3000 GV100-based Titan V is made for deep learning and not gaming, those results sure put GeForce RTX 2080 Ti’s $1200 price into context."

How does comparing a scientific industry based video card to a gaming card put the $1200 price of the 2080 Ti into context????

More of the same biased Tom's Hardware journalistic expertise.

 

[feelinfroggy777]

Very nice card, but I think I will be holding what I have for now.

 

[AlistairAB]

The Titan V angle to this review is very off-putting. You shouldn't have mentioned the Titan V at all, honestly.

 

[Scott_123]

"But what if we told you it also beats Nvidia’s Titan V? In Battlefield 1, GeForce RTX 2080 Ti is 20% faster. In Forza Motorsport 7, the 2080 Ti enjoys a 22% advantage. Based on the two cards’ specifications, we weren’t expecting such a dramatic finish. Although the $3000 GV100-based Titan V is made for deep learning and not gaming, those results sure put GeForce RTX 2080 Ti’s $1200 price into context."

How does comparing a $3000 scientific/industry video card to a gaming card put the $1200 2080 Ti price into context?

Just buy it?

 

[Scott_123]

How does comparing a $3000 commercial industry card to a $1200 gaming card put the price of the 2080 Ti into context?

Just buy it?

 

[Crashman]

"But what if we told you it also beats Nvidia’s Titan V? In Battlefield 1, GeForce RTX 2080 Ti is 20% faster. In Forza Motorsport 7, the 2080 Ti enjoys a 22% advantage. Based on the two cards’ specifications, we weren’t expecting such a dramatic finish. Although the $3000 GV100-based Titan V is made for deep learning and not gaming, those results sure put GeForce RTX 2080 Ti’s $1200 price into context."

How does comparing a $3000 scientific/industry video card to a gaming card put the $1200 2080 Ti price into context?

How could this possibly be considered an actual question when it ignores the simple fact that the 2080 Ti was also compared "in context" to the 1080 Ti?

Is yours a "Believe in something, even if you know that it's wrong" argument?

 

[hotaru251]

did they compare a GPU meant for gaming to a GPU meant for AI learning?

thats apples to oranges...


sure they both do the job, but they do so differently..

and iirc Nvidea themselves said in gaming, excluding the titles that will support the new stuff, it will likely not beat a 1080ti ?

 

[Scott_123]

I can't afford Nvidia 2080 Ti Ray Tracing so I might as well be dead?

 

[Phaaze88]

I've said that I would grab one of these if the price/performance rate was over a certain threshold over the 1080ti I currently own - performance being AT LEAST half of the price increase(~70%) over the latter card at launch, in other words, ~35%. It's barely a 30% improvement.
So it looks like I'll be skipping this gen... but future price drops should allow for a better price/performance rate. Then there's the time it'll take for devs to fully adopt RT into their games...

1440p is still the sweet spot. I'll make the move to 4k after 120hz is available AND a card that can reliably run that - WITHOUT turning settings down too much, if at all.

I also don't believe the 20-series is a worthwhile upgrade for anyone with a 10-series - with current pricing, at least. Folks with older cards though... empty those wallets/bank accounts!

 

[Phaaze88]

Then there's also that screwed up move I read up on TPU about what Nvidia's doing with the binned chips towards AIBs...
Not cool at all. They are basically pulling an Intel with their K and locked processors.

 

[Crashman]

So let me get this straight, If I cannot afford a 2080 Ti I might well be dead?

That's one option. Another is to read the entire conclusion and maybe consider buying a 1080 Ti if you don't already own one.Given that your previous question was of equally dubious authenticity, you could consider these equally viable options.

 

[SkyBill40]

I watched the review from JayzTwoCents this morning and as I expected, he didn't recommend either of these as a buy. If you're still rolling with a 7xx or 9xx series card maybe but that jump in cost is brutal.

Last year I went from a great but somewhat long in the tooth 660Ti OC to a 1080 OC. That was a huge leap for me and perhaps about what someone would expect if they made a jump as stated above. That said, I do think the pricing on these cards are artificially inflated and because Nvidia clearly has market dominance and an assured revenue stream of loyal followers. The tech is great, don't get me wrong...but not at the current cost in my personal opinion.

 

[bennie101]

JIMMY Not 100% true. There have been plenty of bad products. Netburst, Phenom I/Bulldozer and even some GPUs.==== nvidia gtx 470, mx4 was another one
lets not forget pentium 60 mhz and the first 1 ghz pentium intel made which toms found a error with that had to be recalled and lets go forward to the p4 presscott or PRESSHOT! And now how many bugs with intel chips. Anyone can make a great product anyone can make a bad product.. Its the ones that stand out the most we remember or we try to forget while we bash the other side of the fence.

 

[XaveT]

What I don't understand about the 2000-series on Nvidia: They pretty much just said, "oh, let's bump the models up in cost, so the customer gets the next model but thinks it's a lot better!" So the 2080 is about the same cost and performance as a 1080Ti... that looks like the competitor to me. Not the Titan, at 1200, vs the 2080Ti at (you guessed it!) 1200. Raising the prices to the next level while pretending it was a huge jump in performance (when it's really just a misnaming to make them look better) is very off-putting.

 

[bloodroses]

JIMMY Not 100% true. There have been plenty of bad products. Netburst, Phenom I/Bulldozer and even some GPUs.==== nvidia gtx 470, mx4 was another one
lets not forget pentium 60 mhz and the first 1 ghz pentium intel made which toms found a error with that had to be recalled and lets go forward to the p4 presscott or PRESSHOT! And now how many bugs with intel chips. Anyone can make a great product anyone can make a bad product.. Its the ones that stand out the most we remember or we try to forget while we bash the other side of the fence.

I fondly remember how bad the Nvidia FX5xxx series was at the time. The 5800 Ultra sounded like a dust buster and the 5200 performed worse than the prior generation. The AMD (then ATI) equivalent cards, Radeon 9xxx series, also ran better pretty much across the board. Honestly, it was a good thing that it happened as ATI/AMD might have gone the way of 3DFX for graphics and we wouldn't have at least some form of competition.
Nvidia also had the defective 8600m laptop graphic cards; which resulted in a lawsuit.

ATI/AMD has had their own sets of problems as well; especially with performance and heat issues lately. Before that it was driver problems.

 

[timf79]

Why not compare to the Titian XP? Last Gen's top card priced at $1,200....
Comparing to the Titan V... might as well have compared it to a Toyota 4Runner

 

[kyotokid]

...for 1,200$ they could at least have dropped in one more GB of VRAM.

The Titan-V is in it's own class, being sort of a "entry level" Quadro. I'm still surprised that the Titan-V never got a boost to 16 GB. (at 3,000$+ it is still more expensive than the 2,300$ RTX5000 and doesn't have NVLink compatibility while the RTX5000 does).

 

[siman0]

Better be good, they took 2 years to jump 10 generations of video cards...

 

[BulkZerker]

If you desire 4K gaming and have the funds available, why wouldn't you?

No. I'd buy a pair of 1080ti for 4 k gaming and laugh my way to the back with the left over cash.