Review Nvidia GeForce RTX 5070 Ti review: A proper high-end GPU

Basing any performance/$ valuation on this card at MSRP is foolish. There is no FE to anchor it to MSRP. The cards released to the press are slated to be sold $150 above MSRP.

So why even discuss the card as a decent value at $749 when it will cost 20% more than that at launch?

*Edit to correct for the fact that it was 20% over MSRP, so $150, not $200 above.
 
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Basing any performance/$ valuation on this card at MSRP is foolish. There is no FE to anchor it to MSRP. The cards released to the press are slated to be sold $200 above MSRP.

So why even discuss the card as a decent value at $749 when it will cost 20% more than that at launch?
The further down the stack you go, the less likely pricing is to be completely bonkers. RTX 5090? Yeah, it was always going to sell like hotcakes. 5080 is the step down option so it's not too surprising to see it sell out. But the 5070 Ti? I suspect it will be reasonably available at $749.

Yes, there will be $799 to $899 variants, with more bling and a modest overclock. But you don't need to buy those to get a decent card. And we've added the caveat that it's only a good card if you can find it at MSRP.

The same thing basically happened with the 40-series. 4090 and 4080 were mostly sold above MSRP. But 4070 Ti and 4070 were pretty readily available at close to MSRP. The 4070 Ti Super supply is gone now, but it was pretty easy to acquire one at MSRP since it launched a year ago.
 
The further down the stack you go, the less likely pricing is to be completely bonkers. RTX 5090? Yeah, it was always going to sell like hotcakes. 5080 is the step down option so it's not too surprising to see it sell out. But the 5070 Ti? I suspect it will be reasonably available at $749.

Yes, there will be $799 to $899 variants, with more bling and a modest overclock. But you don't need to buy those to get a decent card. And we've added the caveat that it's only a good card if you can find it at MSRP.

The same thing basically happened with the 40-series. 4090 and 4080 were mostly sold above MSRP. But 4070 Ti and 4070 were pretty readily available at close to MSRP. The 4070 Ti Super supply is gone now, but it was pretty easy to acquire one at MSRP since it launched a year ago.
You should go check out Microcenter.

They just (this morning in time for the reviews) conveniently have a sale on the Asus card that was passed to reviewers. The list price is $899. They have magically slashed it for review day today back to MSRP at $749.

It is the ONLY listing available at MSRP.

*Edit: To be clear, before that all of the available options start at $899. Your high end guess is the floor for where people are starting their profit margins.
 
The further down the stack you go, the less likely pricing is to be completely bonkers. RTX 5090? Yeah, it was always going to sell like hotcakes. 5080 is the step down option so it's not too surprising to see it sell out. But the 5070 Ti? I suspect it will be reasonably available at $749.

Yes, there will be $799 to $899 variants, with more bling and a modest overclock. But you don't need to buy those to get a decent card. And we've added the caveat that it's only a good card if you can find it at MSRP.

The same thing basically happened with the 40-series. 4090 and 4080 were mostly sold above MSRP. But 4070 Ti and 4070 were pretty readily available at close to MSRP. The 4070 Ti Super supply is gone now, but it was pretty easy to acquire one at MSRP since it launched a year ago.
there is only one. count them one. sku at 749. it's made by PNY. no one else has one at MSRP. so your whole 3 paragraphs of nvidia glazing is pointless. because there aren't any cards availible at 750
 
You should go check out Microcenter.

They just (this morning in time for the reviews) conveniently have a sale on the Asus card that was passed to reviewers. The list price is $899. They have magically slashed it for review day today back to MSRP at $749.

It is the ONLY listing available at MSRP.
We'll see what happens tomorrow AM. Early listing are always bunk. I would not buy or recommend the 5070 Ti as an $899 or higher card, at all. Even $799 is a reach, but for a blinged out model it would be okay.

The graphics card companies and retail outlets are getting greedy at launch, but give it a couple of weeks and I wager we'll see plenty of $749~$799 5070 Ti cards on Newegg.
 
Thank you for the review. It's expectedly pricey, and still great performance for $250 less than next tier. Still out of my league, nVidia definitely not throwing bones yet.
 
The Nvidia GeForce RTX 5070 Ti replaces the prior-generation RTX 4070 Ti and the 4070 Ti Super in the high-end segment. It offers solid performance improvements over the former but only modest gains over the Super. Thankfully, it's also $50 cheaper.

Nvidia GeForce RTX 5070 Ti review: A proper high-end GPU : Read more
50 reviews appeared online in the last houur or whatever. The only one that reccomends this card is the one with affiliate links. Amazingi how that works.
 
LMAO, a proper high end GPU and struggles to find points to be listed in the Pros:

Pros​

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    Good balance of performance and price - Price... seriously? we all know that nobody will be getting it near MSRP, maybe as bad as Ampere where MSRP didn't exist till release of Ada
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    16GB VRAM and 256-bit interface - Which will be not enough for most titles really soon above 1440p
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    Latest Nvidia architecture and features - Which bring... MFG? and....?


At this point of time I think the now cheaper 7900XTX with 24 GB of Vram, the old 4080 super and the 7900XT 20GB will be the real proper high end card... at least if we don't turn on the RT we can be gaming without FG for a year or so longer
 
All the tech channels on YouTube are saying that this card will not be sold at 750$. Jaytwocents even slightly broke the embargo on purpose to expose this craziness. There is not FE for this GPU and AIBs are cranking up tbe prices. Stocks will be awful like the other 5000 cards so they have no reasons to sell it at MSRP. The 5080 is now sold at $1300+ (even $1600), and the 5090 at 3000$. So thinking that the 5070 Ti will magically go to 750$ in two weeks is either naive or dishonest.
 
All the tech channels on YouTube are saying that this card will not be sold at 750$. Jaytwocents even slightly broke the embargo on purpose to expose this craziness. There is not FE for this GPU and AIBs are cranking up tbe prices. Stocks will be awful like the other 5000 cards so they have no reasons to sell it at MSRP. The 5080 is now sold at $1300+ (even $1600), and the 5090 at 3000$. So thinking that the 5070 Ti will magically go to 750$ in two weeks is either naive or dishonest.

Fake prices for fake frames. And with this amount of subdivision, they'll have a HOA by next week. (Steve at GN has me rolling with the dad jokes).
 
If most prices were actually around 750, it would basically be an RTX 4080 for 750 dollars. However until that price actually drops to that range, you're basically getting a 4080, for the price of a 4080. That said, have you all looked at the GPU market recently? Its a mess, and even at the overpriced 900+, if its available, its still a better deal than most of whats currently on the market. With the exception of the 7900 XT, when you can find it available for around $700.

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/video-card/#sort=price&c=566,542,567,589,560,547,548
 
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You should go check out Microcenter.

They just (this morning in time for the reviews) conveniently have a sale on the Asus card that was passed to reviewers. The list price is $899. They have magically slashed it for review day today back to MSRP at $749.

It is the ONLY listing available at MSRP.

*Edit: To be clear, before that all of the available options start at $899. Your high end guess is the floor for where people are starting their profit margins.
Geez, this is calling to me. I wonder if it can be secured online and picked up or if it must be bought in store.
 
Geez, this is calling to me. I wonder if it can be secured online and picked up or if it must be bought in store.

Microcenter says it'll be available on the tomorrow (20th), expect long lines.

https://www.microcenter.com/product...e-triple-fan-16gb-gddr7-pcie-50-graphics-card

Every other model is $900 to $1000 dollars.

https://www.microcenter.com/search/search_results.aspx?N=&cat=&Ntt=5070+ti&searchButton=search

The day that the 5080 dropped they sold out almost instantly, then sold out all their 7900 XTX's. I assume this is going to fly off the shelves with all the pent up demand from people with 20 and 30 series GPU's needing upgrading.
 
Another "new generation" GPU that is barely any faster than previous generation, costing $1K no less, is getting the green light from Tom's Hardware with 4 stars and being called "proper". It is only proper if it was priced at what mainstream 70 class buyers are able to spend. Namely, $400 to $550.

But Tom's Hardware has been ignoring this fact as of late.
 
>I assume this is going to fly off the shelves with all the pent up demand from people with 20 and 30 series GPU's needing upgrading.

What's also pent up are all the venom from entitled peeps ranting about overpriced wares and needing somebody to blame. The price is what it is, if you don't like it, then wait, or buy something else.

Yes, ranting is the favorite pasttime for online forums. But there's a point where it becomes abusive, and more than one individuals here have been setting the reviewer up for target practice because they disagree with his review.
And it's funny, that in some cases the complaining is coming from folks with $700 GPUs.
 
@redgarl This is the market. No one care about games when they have more profit with Enterprise Hardware.
If you want blame someone blame AMD for this!
No. We only have ourselves to blame for this. We have let all of these companies get to this point by not voicing our concerns with our wallets. At the end of the day they're only going to be able to put out for sale what we will pay for. We have been gladly paying ever increasing prices, and are absolutely shocked, when the companies keep trying to milk more. If you want these prices to drop, vote with your wallet.
 
While I still think this generation is just as bad a value as the last I do think Jarred is right on the money about this card. Barring someone flipping the script on the entire market this is the best of a bad situation. For around the same money as a 3080 you're getting 45-50% more performance and enough VRAM to run high res textures, RT, and higher resolutions without worrying about it. Not to mention all of the hardware walled software improvements that come with the newer generations.

As for the card itself it's somewhat interesting and seems to rely on the extra power to maintain performance overall. The more intensive titles it seems to have less of a performance advantage over the 40 series which leads me to believe it's boosting lower on those titles. There seems to be more room within the TDP on the 40 series than the 50 series cards that have been released so far.

Overall I think if someone was in the market for a new card around this price point it's a decent deal (wait for the 9070/XT for sure though). I'm not sure this would be worth it for an upgrade though unless you were still on 10/20 series or older. I know I won't be upgrading my card until there's something with around twice the performance available in the same general price point ($700-900).
 
Another "new generation" GPU that is barely any faster than previous generation, costing $1K no less, is getting the green light from Tom's Hardware with 4 stars and being called "proper". It is only proper if it was priced at what mainstream 70 class buyers are able to spend. Namely, $400 to $550.

But Tom's Hardware has been ignoring this fact as of late.
Another? The 3000 series was a great improvement over the 2000 and the 4000 high-end cards (4090, 4080 and 4070 Ti) where also significantly more performant than the 3000 (the 4080 beats the 3090 Ti). The 5000 series is an anomaly with cards that barely beat their previous gen equivalent.
 
I love how the internet is full of people that apparently know the future. If that's true, I hope they're all trillionaires, because I sure don't know what will happen in the coming two weeks, never mind two months.

What we know is that the official base price as defined by Nvidia for the RTX 5070 Ti is $749. Is it going to go for that much when it goes on sale tomorrow? Of course not — except in limited quantities. This is the same thing that happens with every new generation of GPUs, going back well over a decade. There's excitement and price gouging and increased demand at launch, prices spike up, but once the initial surge in upgrades dies off the prices stabilize and tend to fall back closer to MSRP.

Where things get messy is when stuff like cryptocurrency mining and AI enter the picture. Ethereum screwed up GPU prices for several years. First we had all the Ampere and RDNA2 GPUs selling at double or triple MSRP, and then we got sequels that increased generational pricing and still sold. And then along comes AI and helps to support those price decisions. Meanwhile, the cost of creating and manufacturing cutting edge silicon keeps going up. And so we should expect the performance per dollar to not change radically these days.

$750 for what amounts to slightly less than 4080 / 4080 Super performance? Yeah, that looks about right. I can live with that and say it's a reasonable offering. But then we get a bunch of true influencers yelling at the clouds and saying how it's all lies, because anger and resentment drives video views!

The difference between me and an angry YouTuber is that I don't get paid directly by page views. If I had a monetized YouTube channel and I got double the views and double the pay by taking an angry approach and having the right thumbnail, I'm sure I'd be doing the same junk. But as a salaried journalist? I get to sit back, look at the big picture, and say what I think without worrying about whether it will earn me more money or not. Literally, it's the exact opposite of what many contend. YouTubers who get paid directly for views are more beholden to marketing tactics (including the "be angry at everything" approach) than I am.

As stated in the conclusion, this really comes down to the actual street prices, and we won't know what those are for at least a couple of months. Yes, cards go on sale tomorrow. Yes, they're going to sell out. Just like the GTX 970 and GTX 980 sold out at launch in 2014, and every new high-end GPU from Nvidia between then and now. So we can't make a snap judgement about how a GPU ranks based on the first few weeks of its two years shelf life!

The 5070 Ti isn't amazing. It's moderately faster than its predecessor (looking at the 4070 Ti), for ostensibly less money. There are also clearly still some driver issues, probably because the number of INT32 ALUs was doubled and perhaps the AI Management Processor isn't balancing things properly, I don't know. I expect all of the currently negative performance deltas relative to the 4070 Ti Super will get fixed in the next couple of months with driver updates, but Nvidia is still busy trying to roll out more new GPUs and so things get back burnered.

If the 5070 Ti costs more than $750, that makes it less compelling. Don't buy it if it costs too much for what you get! Certainly don't buy the $1,000+ models that are being hawked at launch, because that's not where this GPU belongs. It's a good card with 16GB of VRAM at what should be a reasonable price. Just like removing 4GB of the memory would change the picture, so does increasing the price by $250. But I'm not going to base my review of the hardware on what may very well be — what should be — short-term price gouging.

Fundamentally, RTX 5070 Ti is slower than the RTX 4080 and 4080 Super in most benchmarks. That's fine, and it's why it's supposed to cost less. 4080 and 4080 Super cards were available for under $1,000 much of last year, and there's no good reason for the 5070 Ti to cost more than that. The reason it will, in the short term, is due to the supply chain.

Nvidia stopped RTX 40-series production too early, Blackwell got delayed, inventory dried up, prices went up, and we're still living in that state. It will take months for things to get smoothed out, but eventually it will happen. Just like eventually all the cryptocurrency GPU mining died out. On paper, 10~15 percent more performance, plus new features, for 7% less money is a reasonable offer. If retail outlets try to increase the price by 20%? Yeah, that's stupid and you shouldn't buy it at those prices. That is all.

Nvidia doesn't pay me one red cent to say anything. I get a card for review, yes, which belongs to my employer. If my article gets a ton of traffic? Future earns more advertising money and potentially more ecommerce money. If it does terrible? Future earns less money. Either way, I get paid exactly the same amount. I have no reason to push a false narrative. I get to write what I think, and the chips fall where they will. Yes, higher traffic and engagement makes me happy on some level, because it means people are reading the content I produced, but my salary stays the same.

Am I wrong about the MSRP? No. It is what it is. Will cards actually get down to the MSRP sooner than later? I don't know, and the review text is very clear that if prices are higher, that makes this card less interesting. That's why it's listed as a con. The 4-star score is basically just a subjective value that can't possibly hope to encapsulate the nearly 10,000 words of text and hundreds of hours of benchmarking. Just as the pros and cons are just a few key highlights and can't possibly convey everything you need to know.

TLDR: Please don't try to pigeonhole reviewers just because they put up a number that you don't like, or because you think the unknown future will be bad. Value is intrinsically linked to price, and in the coming weeks I'm sure we'll have dozens more articles talking about GPU prices and relative values. And at some point I'll get the time to actually properly update the best graphics cards list and GPU hierarchy, as things will calm down a bit once the 9060 and 5060 cards are out the door. Which is probably several months away. Sigh.