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Hmmm, I was one of the HP dv9309 owners. Laptop died after 16 months (I say die but it was just the gpu - machine still ran). After fighting with HP about it for over a year and a half I finally gave up and bought a new Lenovo 2 months ago. ATI graphics and I've never been happier - it doesn't burn my lap either.
I actually want to thank both HP and Nvidia for making my buying decisions that much easier.
I actually want to thank both HP and Nvidia for making my buying decisions that much easier.
I could have sworn that Nvidia has been paying out a lot more than $2 million just in RMA, I thought I heard some manufacturers offering warranty extensions at least? How does that play if they got something already from the manufacturer?
I guess directly settling with customers themselves is the next step. 2 million for it is pretty tiny though, Everyone might get a few dollars at least, people could say "I bought a burger with my laptop settlement." Going rates for laptop repair aren't cheap.
I figure about 12 thousand people could get repairs at current rates for quickie reflow repairs, 6 thousand if they have to replace the motherboard. Get your settlement in quick!
I guess directly settling with customers themselves is the next step. 2 million for it is pretty tiny though, Everyone might get a few dollars at least, people could say "I bought a burger with my laptop settlement." Going rates for laptop repair aren't cheap.
I figure about 12 thousand people could get repairs at current rates for quickie reflow repairs, 6 thousand if they have to replace the motherboard. Get your settlement in quick!
Engineers in many companies are pressured to use failure mode prediction and analysis as a tool for orchestrating planned obsolescence of a given design. Sometimes this is necessary to cut initial costs in a very cost competitive market. Heat and wear are two of the most useful methods of accomplishing that goal, as the effects can be predicted with reasonable accuracy by accelerated life-cycle testing. Unfortunately, engineers can make mistakes in their predictions. One such example being transmissions from a certain auto manufacturer who predicted their failure at >180,000 miles, but it actually ended up being ~100,000 miles. Some Engineers in those positions can actually become 'proud' of their ability to predict design induced failure with great accuracy (as it was told to me).
[citation][nom]rantoc[/nom]Atleast Nvidia pay up to get the issue fixed, not like asome other companies - Make some lame excuse and offer some so called fix for a limited time hoping the media storm blows over and they saved some money by screwing their customers![/citation]
And how many lost their money/laptop when the device broke right after the warranty period. Of course nvidia doesn't pay for those.
And how many lost their money/laptop when the device broke right after the warranty period. Of course nvidia doesn't pay for those.
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As long as NVidia is paying for the repair/replacement, people really don't have anything to complain about.
Of course, for those that got burned because they were out of warranty, now that's an entirely different topic.
Of course, for those that got burned because they were out of warranty, now that's an entirely different topic.
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My cousin has alaptop affected on this list, the graphics card failed 3 times, luckily it was under warranty then but this is great news since it isnt anymore.
NVIDIA & Apple continue to ignore the blinking flaw which is part of the GeForce 9400M chipset used in MacBook Pro's from 10/2008 to 4/2010. Hundreds of posters to Apple's support forum have this issue and expect another round of lawsuits before getting satisfaction.
I called them and gave my service tag they told me it appears i dont have a nvidia chip,wtf?! are these morons??a vostro 1500is typically the same as a vostro 1510 how lame!
My model isn't on the list! It's got the same defective GPU overheating and forcing shutdown every time you open anything (literally). My HDD and the back of my keyboard have scorch marks for crying out loud (and it's been repaired three times ALREADY! for free.) but still no refund for me. Nvidia can still suck it.
The problem is not overheating actually. Its the solder being used to make the contacts forming stress fractures due to the on/off (hot/cold) cycles and losing contacts.
Its why the various reflowing techniques like baking the motherboard in the oven (did that on my brother's xps 1210 and resurrected it, working perfectly again, please google this before you try it) or wrapping it in a blanket to overheat it to melt the soldering enough to eliminate the cracks and get the contacts back. This is a manufacturing defect in the process of putting the chip on the boards, not of the chips themselves.
Its why the various reflowing techniques like baking the motherboard in the oven (did that on my brother's xps 1210 and resurrected it, working perfectly again, please google this before you try it) or wrapping it in a blanket to overheat it to melt the soldering enough to eliminate the cracks and get the contacts back. This is a manufacturing defect in the process of putting the chip on the boards, not of the chips themselves.
Yeah but that isn't a good idea. You are adding stress to the GPU which is why it is melting the solder. Think of the damage you are causing to the microchip itself. Yeesh. Don't try what this guy says if you can warranty it first. This is not how microchip packages are originally soldered onto circuit boards at the factory. They usually are float soldered on.
I've had problems with Nvidia products in the past but I am dumb enough to keep buying them oh well. I had to RMA my ti4600 3 times and the one I have now still works but who uses AGP any more? It is sitting on a shelf now. Typical overpriced, overrated Nvidia computer product. $300 for a video card is pure nonsense.
And don't get me started on Dell. The video card in the Vostro 1500 uses a common laptop slot but Dell made it proprietary so it forces you to buy a genuine Dell Nvidia 8600M GT rather than being able to freely buy any aftermarket 8600M GT card available. Shame on Dell. What bullsh** forcing your customers to buy more lame crap that isn't fixed. It is unfortunate that I loaded this laptop rather than buying the cheap deal $500 run of the mill Dell laptop. Well I have learned, buying the cheapest laptop available is a better idea than doing your own "build your own" customization on their site. Even if you have to sacrifice GPU for an Intel.
This Vostro 1500 is a rather weird system to begin with. The 5400rpm hard drive it shipped with is NOT compatible with Windows Vista updates. So I had to replace the drive with a 7200rpm so that I would continue to be able to use updates and get into the OS. And on top of that after a few months I found out that it had defective GPU packaging problems. What gives? This is the fault of Microsoft, Dell, and Nvidia. All 3 companies goofed on this product.
Now all a class action lawsuit ever does is fills some random lawyer's pockets with money. They aren't going to really be concerned with each individual wanting a claim. Kinda pointless to me.
[citation][nom]fordry06[/nom]The problem is not overheating actually. Its the solder being used to make the contacts forming stress fractures due to the on/off (hot/cold) cycles and losing contacts. Its why the various reflowing techniques like baking the motherboard in the oven (did that on my brother's xps 1210 and resurrected it, working perfectly again, please google this before you try it) or wrapping it in a blanket to overheat it to melt the soldering enough to eliminate the cracks and get the contacts back. This is a manufacturing defect in the process of putting the chip on the boards, not of the chips themselves.[/citation]
I've had problems with Nvidia products in the past but I am dumb enough to keep buying them oh well. I had to RMA my ti4600 3 times and the one I have now still works but who uses AGP any more? It is sitting on a shelf now. Typical overpriced, overrated Nvidia computer product. $300 for a video card is pure nonsense.
And don't get me started on Dell. The video card in the Vostro 1500 uses a common laptop slot but Dell made it proprietary so it forces you to buy a genuine Dell Nvidia 8600M GT rather than being able to freely buy any aftermarket 8600M GT card available. Shame on Dell. What bullsh** forcing your customers to buy more lame crap that isn't fixed. It is unfortunate that I loaded this laptop rather than buying the cheap deal $500 run of the mill Dell laptop. Well I have learned, buying the cheapest laptop available is a better idea than doing your own "build your own" customization on their site. Even if you have to sacrifice GPU for an Intel.
This Vostro 1500 is a rather weird system to begin with. The 5400rpm hard drive it shipped with is NOT compatible with Windows Vista updates. So I had to replace the drive with a 7200rpm so that I would continue to be able to use updates and get into the OS. And on top of that after a few months I found out that it had defective GPU packaging problems. What gives? This is the fault of Microsoft, Dell, and Nvidia. All 3 companies goofed on this product.
Now all a class action lawsuit ever does is fills some random lawyer's pockets with money. They aren't going to really be concerned with each individual wanting a claim. Kinda pointless to me.
[citation][nom]fordry06[/nom]The problem is not overheating actually. Its the solder being used to make the contacts forming stress fractures due to the on/off (hot/cold) cycles and losing contacts. Its why the various reflowing techniques like baking the motherboard in the oven (did that on my brother's xps 1210 and resurrected it, working perfectly again, please google this before you try it) or wrapping it in a blanket to overheat it to melt the soldering enough to eliminate the cracks and get the contacts back. This is a manufacturing defect in the process of putting the chip on the boards, not of the chips themselves.[/citation]
Hey here is a cool note. The two law firms that brought the Class action suit got paid $13,000,000.00
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