News Nvidia, Newegg Address Non-Existent RTX 3080 Availability

[BILL1957]

I find it disturbing that such an in advance advertised hyped product launch that a company as large as Best Buy had no stock as in 0 units to sell in its physical brick and mortar locations.
Even on Black Friday sale type loss leaders each store will have at least 2 or 3 of the products available to sell.
A Best Buy manager told me that the online sales for the company was sold out in 11 seconds, yes that is seconds not minutes.
I really believe this wast one of the worst orchestrated launches as far as physical supply in history or the concept of a mainly paper launch for the media hype may have more truth to it than we want to admit.

 

[ScrewySqrl]

How on earth are people willing to spend that much? I wouldnt spend that much even if it was in INR forget USD.

Most of those ridiculous prices are anti-scalpers putting up fake, way out of scale bids that will never be paid using faked accounts: just make a gmail or yahoo email, create ebay acct with it, place you ridiculous bids, and never touch the acct again. Repeat as necessary. It's being done as a crude way to discourage scalpers, by locking them up until there is actual supply.

 

[InvalidError]

I find it disturbing that such an in advance advertised hyped product launch that a company as large as Best Buy had no stock as in 0 units to sell in its physical brick and mortar locations.

Makes perfect sense to me: due to covid-19, it is much safer for everyone to avoid anything that would cause a massive rush of customers into physical stores for a product that was going to be instantaneously sold-out online regardless of how many any store could get, with the added benefits of saving on distribution costs by shipping from warehouses. Also reduces the likelihood of products mysteriously disappearing somewhere along the way from warehouses to store shelves.

Sucks for people who like walking into a store, empty their wallet and walk out with their purchase in hand but online-only is the responsible and logical thing to do under current conditions.

 

[folfy20]

Great job Nvidia. You managed to produce enough cards to almost give websites enough time to show them in stock. And the 3090 is supposed to be card in very limited supply. Is it going to sell out before it even goes on sale?

RTX 3090 for $3090, just wait and watch.

 

[folfy20]

Sending notifications while the site is already being slammed and products are flying off the shelf too fast for people waiting for a notifications before ordering to have any chance of catching one wouldn't make much sense. Instead of having people complaining about not receiving notifications, you'd have people complaining that they couldn't get in after receiving notifications and products already being sold out by the time they got there despite clicking the notification within seconds of receiving it.

Just like the PS5 debacle.

 

[folfy20]

They are being auctioned on ebay ranging from $1,300 to $89,000 USD.
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=RTX+3080&_sacat=0&_sop=16

And people are bidding on them
https://www.ebay.com/bfl/viewbids/124341008802?item=124341008802&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2565

The 5 figure bids are most likely troll accounts made to fight the scalping. applause

 

[nofanneeded]

Most of those ridiculous prices are anti-scalpers putting up fake, way out of scale bids that will never be paid using faked accounts: just make a gmail or yahoo email, create ebay acct with it, place you ridiculous bids, and never touch the acct again. Repeat as necessary. It's being done as a crude way to discourage scalpers, by locking them up until there is actual supply.

ebay can still Sue them for that by the way , when they accepted their terms at sign up. And they will find them even if they made a fake email. the Police will find them easily.

 

[nofanneeded]

The 5 figure bids are most likely troll accounts made to fight the scalping. applause

It is illegal to do so . and against the site agreement when one signs up. They can force them to pay by the way if the seller Sue them in court.

 

[USAFRet]

It is illegal to do so . and against the site agreement when one signs up. They can force them to pay by the way if the seller Sue them in court.

And they won't.

 

[nofanneeded]

And they won't.

And why not ? bidding laws force you to pay , or any one can destroy bids until he gets that bid at the price he wants.

 

[folfy20]

It is illegal to do so . and against the site agreement when one signs up. They can force them to pay by the way if the seller Sue them in court.

In another court case hearing, scalping should be in violation of Antitrust laws. Scalpers are behaving like monopolies, very anti-consumer.

 

[USAFRet]

And why not ? bidding laws force you to pay , or any one can destroy bids until he gets that bid at the price he wants.

Take them to court, for not paying a scam bid?
When, in the history of fleabay, has this ever happened?

Further...you're asking fleabay to side with the scalpers? Yeah, that's GREAT optics.

 

[folfy20]

And why not ? bidding laws force you to pay , or any one can destroy bids until he gets that bid at the price he wants.

but ebay does not make laws...they make rules. Laws (legality) =/= rules (guidelines)

 

[nofanneeded]

Take them to court, for not paying a scam bid?
When, in the history of fleabay, has this ever happened?

Further...you're asking fleabay to side with the scalpers? Yeah, that's GREAT optics.

first , there are laws against fake bidding , ebay is a bidding company , and the law applies to it. no one sued against it yes but if some one called his lawyer the bidder will pay penalties which starts from 10% of the bid amount by the LAWS.

Second : I am trying to defend people not to go trigger happy and do this on ebay for fun , they can get in trouble. this is not siding with the scalpers.

 

[InvalidError]

first , there are laws against fake bidding , ebay is a bidding company , and the law applies to it. no one sued against it yes but if some one called his lawyer the bidder will pay penalties which starts from 10% of the bid amount by the LAWS.

Suing people across state and country lines gets stupidly expensive, collecting across state and country lines can get stupidly complicated, so it is almost certain to be way too much trouble, risk and expense for a scalper who's out for a quick buck.

 

[USAFRet]

first , there are laws against fake bidding , ebay is a bidding company , and the law applies to it. no one sued against it yes but if some one called his lawyer the bidder will pay penalties which starts from 10% of the bid amount by the LAWS.

Second : I am trying to defend people not to go trigger happy and do this on ebay for fun , they can get in trouble. this is not siding with the scalpers.

So there's a "fake bid" for $50,000 USD. Email address and fleabay account cranked up in the last 5 minutes, via a no-logging VPN,
You propose to force the bidder to pay that, to the seller?
That is specifically siding with the scammer/scalper.

Easy solution:
Ignore fleabay.
I do.

 

[USAFRet]

first , there are laws against fake bidding , ebay is a bidding company , and the law applies to it.

Please....show us this law.
Not fleabay Terms of Service...an actual "law". From anywhere on the planet.

 

[Wolfshadw]

Here's an idea.
Get Fleabay to forbid sales/auctions of any item within 30 days of it's release.
Never going to happen, but it's an idea.

-Wolf sends

 

[USAFRet]

Here's an idea.
Get Fleabay to forbid sales/auctions of any item within 30 days of it's release.
Never going to happen, but it's an idea.

-Wolf sends

I just built a selection of models on my 3D printer. I have to wait a month to sell?

 

[Wolfshadw]

I just built a selection of models on my 3D printer. I have to wait a month to sell?

Just because it's you, yes. You have to wait.
Since most individuals with products to sell do not set global release dates, they don't have to wait.

-Wolf sends

 

[nofanneeded]

Please....show us this law.
Not fleabay Terms of Service...an actual "law". From anywhere on the planet.

The laws follows the contracts of the bidding house , and from my experience if you dont pay , you must pay at least 10% of the Value you bid . and these contracts are accepted by the government.

This is about private bidding house . and Ebay is also private online bidding house and is protected by the laws. If you agree on the penalty when signing up and they take you to court you will pay it you like it or not.

 

[USAFRet]

The laws follows the contracts of the bidding house , and from my experience if you dont pay , you must pay at least 10% of the Value you bid . and these contracts are accepted by the government.

This is about private bidding house . and Ebay is also private online bidding house and is protected by the laws. If you agree on the penalty when signing up and they take you to court you will pay it you like it or not.

So, no actual "law".
Just the fleabay Terms of Service.

 

[xrobwx71]

Why not do pre-orders 3 months out? Then they would have an idea of what they need to produce and a semblance of overage.

 

[USAFRet]

Why not do pre-orders 3 months out? Then they would have an idea of what they need to produce and a semblance of overage.

Preorders that went live on June 17, 0900 EST, would have sold out in 3 minutes. Just like the physical devices devices did yesterday.

They're building them as fast as they can. There would have been no ramping up of the assembly line.

 

[nofanneeded]

So, no actual "law".
Just the fleabay Terms of Service.

There are laws for Government public biddings in many countries , but for Private bidding houses the laws protects the contract , meaning it is lawful contract.

Some Bidding houses to avoid the fake bidding and avoid going to court , they ask you to deposit 10% of the initial Value of the product which will be returned to you after the bid is over or deducted from the total bid if you win that bid.

bottom line : dont put fake bids and dont encourage people to do it .. even on ebay.

seeing the bids reaching $ 80,000 , this is really scary if the seller decided to goto court.

and you need to know that Ebay bids can reach millions of dollars , and yes they are protected. you can even sell a private yacht on ebay if you want to. dont ever think it is not protected under the laws.