Nvidia: PCs are Archaic; Mobile is The Future

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[citation][nom]cyberkuberiah[/nom]the major constraint for mobiles is not even computing power , it is battery power .[/citation]
I think the two are inherently linked...for a given generation a smaller battery generally means less powerful hardware is used. Or they could've also decided to simply forgo battery life in favor of a more powerful SOC, but that seems to defeat the primary purpose of designing a hand held.[citation][nom]cyberkuberiah[/nom]the pc's use will be eliminated for things that can be moved to the mobile . except for my favourite thing , gaming . unless portable virtual reality shows up !![/citation]
...thank you, but unfortunately few on this thread seem to share this more reasonable assessment of Trevett's comment's. As I said in an earlier comment...

"he didn't say anything about abandoning the PC, or signaling its death...He's talking primarily about mobile devices being the future of social connectivity (the internet), and the migration of similar tasks from desktops and laptops where it's mainly found today.
There will always be a place for desktops, in the same way there has always been a place for rack servers, large scale supercomputers, and render farms, all of which still exist harmoniously after the expansion of desktop computing. The future of this industry has always been about expansion, migration, and convenience. What he's envisioning is a future where hand held mobile devices will be powerful and integrated enough to perform everyday tasks for the majority of users.
People tend to blow these comments way out of proportion, becoming offended and paranoid at the prospect of something new or different."

...apparently many people disagree, but I think it was mainly because I drew a parallel with the Fermi announcement later in the post. Demerjian and fellow fan-boys don't like to be reminded of their past flame ups and inaccuracies, it makes it harder for them to believe the "future".
 
[citation][nom]theguy82[/nom]Yeah ok. Nvidia shouldn't bother with the 500 series video cards then. Just focus on mobile now.It's funny that this week I have read a lot about companies saying PC's are on their way out. Maybe for the 16 year old girls that do nothing but tweet.[/citation]
Right on, I know I am ready to give up my 24" 1920x1200 monitor and gaming rig to play stupid little games on a 4" screen.
 
This just out, Nvidia has produced it's own 4Ghz 80 core CPU/GPU capable of the same power and graphics as a "Pee See". Battery life is expected to last 15 seconds or when the unit catches on fire, which ever comes first.
 
With consoles moving toward a more computer style build structure and use, I don't think desktops are archaic. I mean, why would an entire industry change their build model to be more like a "archaic" piece of equipment.

Now I play Dragon Age on my $1400 worth of "archaic" tech instead of trying to play Angry Birds on my iPhone with a keyboard attached.
 
the way we use software has to change, not that the hardware will not be able to keep up (yeah sure mobile devices will be able to play crysis some day) but how we interface with the devices will have to evolve specially if we wanna get the computer experience on a mobile device. how about those batteries? anyone think on how the power sources are gonna need to be when mobile devices take over its gonna take for ever if they don't develop that first there will be a gap between the devices that will never disappear.
 
I have a feeling this is at least partly to do with their legal spat concerning integrated chipsets on Intel boards. It's gotten to the point that even Apple has to work around the problem.
Then they also have Tegra to boost, which seems to be exactly what the crowd at a mobile developer conference wants to hear...
I don't believe for a second that they'll be dropping their discrete GPUs, but now that they can't also tackle integrated chipsets without kludge, it's clear Intel doesn't want them there anyway, and they've diversified into mobile electronics, I'm not surprised to see something like this come out.
 
The PC is great , I have one in the basement where I sit down ,play games , watch films ..ect , all alone and privet,away from the kids and thier shouting. and it has an old 21 inch monitor which I will be replacing with a new large HD monitor soon, so I can enjoy my games and films more ,now how the f... amI ging to paly games and see films on a silly ,lousy ,little phone, now that is just plain stupid .
 
[citation][nom]christop[/nom]OK so when are laptop going to be power house? 20 years from now. I will stick with my desktop for power till then...[/citation]
Doubt it ever will, until new types of interfaces are made. Cause no matter what they make for a laptop it can ALWAYS be made faster and more powerful and fit in a desktop, and the software will ALWAYS be made based on the more powerful desktop hardware. There is no reason for any company to ignore the higher profit and the upgradeability (which means multiple purchases from one person) of the desktop market.
 
He's just mad cause NVIDIA failed epically on the 400 series cards.

Personally if NVIDIA never makes another graphics card again I would be perfectly fine with it.
 
as long as I can plug a keyboard and mouse and big screen into it and run crysis at 60fps and have all the flexibility and freedom I want, I don't quite care what it is.

this would be true of all of the greedy corporations weren't so hell bent on locking all their 'new' platforms down to the point that they are barely functional...
 
PC's won't die.

Just like the massive room size computers from 50-60 years ago still exist, they'll still be there, but the PC's of tomorrow will be far more capable than the room size supercomputers of today. Right along the exact same lines, tomorrow's smartphones will also be capable of far more than today's PC's in the computation arena, but where the desktop PC and laptop will still shine is going to be the extreme ergonomics and usability that come with using full size screens, keyboards, mice, etc...

Each of the three technologies has its niche.

Supercomputers are for full-on balls to the wall processing guts when you don't care how big the machine has to be, you just need to crank some serious bits.

Desktop and laptop PC's are for good processing power, ergonomic design, relatively low cost, in a size you can put almost anywhere.

Smartphones are for when you would like to be able to access the bare essentials anytime, anywhere.
 
There are several contradictions here. If mobile is the future (and I agree) is because most people wont care about "performance" but most users wont care either about open/closed system as long as they find a way to do what they want or need. True they wont care about MS, HP, Acer or Apple, but who ever comes with a reasonably polish UI and OS that provides a decent or usable office app, internet and networking on a fashionable and affordable form (a cheap Apple like tablet or phone on closed OS) this is what they will pick over more powerful or better open "mobile machines". Tegra depends to much on a very tight interaction between the OS they don't produce and the hardware. Tegra is very good but they will face a hard competition and the open Android OS will face the same MS Windows compatibility challenge. I think we need to wait for HP tablet until we could see what the recent future will be (I hope HP to be very good). People will need a cheaper but competitive Apple system.

One last consideration from me is I see PC prices and parts going to the roof again (very bad for me) as this systems will decrease in popularity. One possible option for massive performance will be highly scalable and modular phone-size computers. You will use a mini stack or rack to mount 20-40 mini computers to get massive performance.
 
Don't all these company geeks know that these types of statements sound completely stupid?

I'll remember this guy again when Nvidia will stop producing desktop graphics cards.
 
basically he's just saying that eventually the big box PC will go away when powerful hardware become smaller and mobile... it's just not going to happen overnight.
 
funny thing about this article is the fact that if this were to happen in the future there would be no more GPU sales therefore no more Nvidia because whatever device that uses NV propetary GPU chips (tegra) will cost penny's to the dollar as opposed to 200.00/1000.00$ per GPU. Neil Trevett forgot that important piece =)

Also, its virtually impossible to get the same gaming satisfaction when you go from a large screen to a 4.3" screen, therefore it's useless IMO..

 
The Original Star Trek had it right, You didn't see the Yeoman walking around with her Tri-corder simultaneously downloading and Uploading Info while traking a scan and text chatting with the other Yeomans no they had a communicator AND a tricorder and sometimes a little wireless device that communicated with each and used this collaboration to collate and send information, Why cant a phone be just a phone and keep the computing to a real dedicated computer? Why does everything have to be stuffed into a small device that you have to wear glasses to read, and get charged separately for each function to the point that you have to be Bill Gates to afford and who uses all that anyway? And on top of all that not every device does the same thing the same way and requires one of a handful of carriers that will allow you to use your device of choice?
 
"In fact, PCs will soon appear somewhat "archaic" as smartphones, tablets, and even car "infotainment" systems become the corporation's primary source for easy CASH"
 
You guys are not realizing how niche the enthusiast market is. Women and common men do not want traditional desktops. They love mobile solutions. They loved labtops and i am sure they will jump on even more mobility.
 
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