Nvidia confirms the release of its improved anti-mining limiter.
Nvidia's Enhanced Anti-Mining GPU Limiter Debuts in Mid-May : Read more
Nvidia's Enhanced Anti-Mining GPU Limiter Debuts in Mid-May : Read more
That makes sense. I mean, I'm trying to find the motivation for stopping mining--it's driving record prices and volumes.I suspect their true motivation is to allow them to market a non-limited card to miners and charge a premium. Or maybe I'm just too much of a cynic
Nvidia is stuck selling their GPU's at contract prices to AIB's. While selling everything is great. They're not seeing a dime of the 200%+ markup over MSRP that the market is currently at. Scalpers and middle men are making far more off each GPU than Nvidia themselves are making. By limiting hashing rates for gaming CPU's, Nvidia can sell mining cards, not stuck at pre mining boom contract pricing, at whatever price the market will bear directly to mining companies which will result in significantly more money made per GPU sold for them.It would be foolish of NVIDIA not to make these "mining limiters" easy to bypass. Their bottom line is rocking because they are selling (out) of almost everything, and have even brought back "obsolete" models to fill demand. Why would they actually want this to stop?
All big companies/corporations loyalty is to MONEY, they couldn't give two $hits about anything else, as long as the product moves, money is the root of all evil.Glad this is happening, the HRL can't come soon enough. Many of my friends who are trying to upgrade their GPU have been stuck in hell.
If Crypto (or specifically Etherium and other GPU based mining crypto) weren't around this wouldn't be a problem for all the gamers dying to get their hands on a GPU, but these are strange trying times that call for extreme measures.
Nvidia is doing right by gamers that have stuck with the company through thick and thin. Where as the only loyalty Crypto miners have is to money.
It's really baffling how this point is missed by the anti-Nvidia/Intel crowd. If your goal is to only buy from companies that don't prioritize money over you, then you aren't going to be buying from anyone.All big companies/corporations loyalty is to MONEY, they couldn't give two $hits about anything else, as long as the product moves, money is the root of all evil.
No, you're pretty much bang on correct.I suspect their true motivation is to allow them to market a non-limited card to miners and charge a premium. Or maybe I'm just too much of a cynic
That makes sense. I mean, I'm trying to find the motivation for stopping mining--it's driving record prices and volumes.
Nvidia wants to control both markets - gaming and mining. They can't control the mining market with the way things are now, that's why they're trying to separate them.
They also want to avoid the flood of old gpus into the 2nd hand market, because that eats into sales of the new models. Turing, anyone?
Software clearly didn't work here, so now they need to resort to hardware locks. The latter can be cracked, I'm sure, but it shouldn't be worth the hassle to do it.
In other news, miner find a way to defat Nvidia's enhanced anti-mining after looking at the beta driver before it is release... again.
I suspect their true motivation is to allow them to market a non-limited card to miners and charge a premium. Or maybe I'm just too much of a cynic
How would you like a company that limit it's own products with a driver ?Nvidia confirms the release of its improved anti-mining limiter.
Nvidia's Enhanced Anti-Mining GPU Limiter Debuts in Mid-May : Read more
...Consumers should have the right to use their hardware as they wish. ...
Artificially limiting performance/features of products has been a standard practice in every industry since the dawn of time. Every once in a while it will annoy me, the overwhelming majority of the time, I don't care.How would you like a company that limit it's own products with a driver ?
They've gotta follow the money. There's not much else to do. If NVidia can make 4x the money on cards and sell 100% of their inventory, there's nothing to be done. The good news is that when there's a crypto crash, the used market will have amazing prices. I'll replace my RX 480 then with an RTX 3080 for $140.Glad this is happening, the HRL can't come soon enough. Many of my friends who are trying to upgrade their GPU have been stuck in hell.
If Crypto (or specifically Etherium and other GPU based mining crypto) weren't around this wouldn't be a problem for all the gamers dying to get their hands on a GPU, but these are strange trying times that call for extreme measures.
Nvidia is doing right by gamers that have stuck with the company through thick and thin. Where as the only loyalty Crypto miners have is to money.
I'd like it fine. That's why my system is AMD though--they don't pull that.How would you like a company that limit it's own products with a driver ?
Scalpers are the issue, not miners. Not all miners are scalpers, and not all miners have bots buying the cards. The issue should be focused on websites that sell them, not the product. What's the point of nerfing a product, only to sell it thru the same websites where the same bots are gonna buy them all up to scalp regardless?Glad this is happening, the HRL can't come soon enough. Many of my friends who are trying to upgrade their GPU have been stuck in hell.
If Crypto (or specifically Etherium and other GPU based mining crypto) weren't around this wouldn't be a problem for all the gamers dying to get their hands on a GPU, but these are strange trying times that call for extreme measures.
Nvidia is doing right by gamers that have stuck with the company through thick and thin. Where as the only loyalty Crypto miners have is to money.
Without mining, scalpers wouldn't have an inflated market and they would disappear. The two are working together. Ebay prices indicate that 3000 series cards except for the 3090 are selling at a price point that would take 5-6 months to recoup the costs over MSRP if you mined with them. If hash rates are cut in half then we should eventually see card prices above MSRP drop in half. So if a $550 3070 is selling for $1350 now, it should drop into the $950 range. If GPU's couldn't mine at all, prices would plummet.What's the point of nerfing a product, only to sell it thru the same websites where the same bots are gonna buy them all up to scalp regardless?
But why is mining tied to scalping? Like, shoes don't mine crypto but are still scalped. Gamers just want new cards to play games, scalpers scalp stuff people want. I don't think it's completely the cause of mining, I think scalping is just an issue in a lot of spaces.Without mining, scalpers wouldn't have an inflated market and they would disappear. The two are working together. Ebay prices indicate that 3000 series cards except for the 3090 are selling at a price point that would take 5-6 months to recoup the costs over MSRP if you mined with them. If hash rates are cut in half then we should eventually see card prices above MSRP drop in half. So if a $550 3070 is selling for $1350 now, it should drop into the $950 range. If GPU's couldn't mine at all, prices would plummet.
Nvidia, in typical fashion, is screwing this up if the reports are true that there will be no way to tell if you are getting a mining limited card unless you remove the cooler and examine the GPU itself. If the packaging clearly states that the card has reduced hashing rates, then its price will instantly be lower on the 2nd hand market. If there's no way to tell, the prices will drop much more slowly until it is practically guaranteed that you are getting a mining limited card.