OEM/third party manufactured

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I have a few questions:

1. Is an OEM and a third party manufactured graphic card the same? If it's not the same what's the difference?

2. What's the difference in an OEM/third party manufactured and the retail box of a graphic card or anything else? Are the specs and prices differente?
 
The answer depends on the context of the question. Let's say for example you're shopping for a hard drive on newegg.com, and you see two Maxtor 80 Gig HD's that have the same specs, only one says "Retail" and costs $125, and the other says "OEM," and costs $117. Well, they are both going to be indetical hard drives...the retail version will come in the pretty retail packaging. It will usually include some stuff like cabling, instructions, and maybe software, whereas the OEM version pretty comes in a plain white box (if it's even in a box at all) and won't have most of the extras. If newegg buys OEM hard-drives for resale, they will come in one big box that has, say, twenty hard drives in it, whereas the retail product comes individually packaged for display.

Now, in terms of your question about "third party" manufacturers, again there is a context to consider. Let's assume you're talking about graphics cards. ATI makes their Radeon processor, and then designs a reference board which shows how the card should be assembled, indicates cooling requirements, etc., and what kinds of discreet components are required to make the whole thing work. Now, ATI mass-produces their own cards, and all of them adhere fully to their reference design, which should be obvious. However, companies like Sapphire and Visiontek also produce ATI Radeon cards, and they might choose to deviate ever-so-slightly from ATI's reference design, for whatever reason. They may want to decrease the cost of producing the cards by using cheaper (slower) memory, or they may want to improve the cooling solution to make it more overclocker friendly...whatever the reason, the third-party still must maintain a level of quality as dictated to them by ATI, but they also have a bit of leeway to adapt the product to their own specs.

It's impossible to give you one answer as to how a third -party product differs from a reference design; you have to do research on a case-by-case basis. Sometimes, the third-party product actually ends up being superior to a reference design, so you really have to check it out by researching benchmarks, looking at product specs, and determining the truth for each specific product.


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In http://www.memoryexpress.com I found a few OME and retail graphic cards. The OME seem to be cheaper. But what about third party manufactured graphic cards. Some cards are under Sapphire, Powercolor, etc.... I never bought a graphic card before. So I went to know if these names are third party manufactures or not?
 
Both Sapphire and Powercolor use ATI's Radeon VPUs, so they are essentially ATI graphics cards.

Sapphire cards are great. I would stay away from Powercolor. Sapphire adheres closely to ATI's reference design, while Powercolor uses cheaper memory. You'll probably notice Powercolor cards are somewhat cheaper---there's a reason for that...

Of course, either way, you probably won't be disappointed with the performance.

Those who live in glass houses shouldn't take showers. :tongue:
 
There are a couple other ATI board manufacturers I can think of off the top of my head: VisionTek and Hercules. Those two are also very good...


Those who live in glass houses shouldn't take showers. :tongue:
 
Ok I don't understand. What are the names of third party magnufactures that builds ati cards? I want some infomation on a third parties manufactured graphic card called Ati radeon 9800 pro 128mb. If it's not possible for this one. Where can I find the info. for the 9700, 9600, whatever. I just need ATI Radeon third parties manufactured graphic cards.
 
they just told you some

Sapphire, Visiontek

theres others

Sapphire is my favorite

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Ok, look; Sapphire, Visiontek, Powercolor, Hercules, Tyan, Gigabyte, Connect3D--all these companies build Radeon cards. I don't know what else to tell you. These companies will call their cards by the Radeon name, so if it's using a Radeon 9800 PRO, it will be called the Sapphire Radeon 9800 PRO, or the Hercules Radeon 9800 PRO, or the Powercolor Radeon 9800 PRO...

If you want info, go to their websites (www.visiontek.com, for example) or check out the graphics card sections in hardware sites like this one.




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Out of all ATI's board venders, they have a reputation for using weak memory, and not sticking to the clock speed standard. This isnt always the case though, with all their cards. I would just be careful.

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but their cards dont explode and cause fires do they?

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This should help, OEM = POWERED by ATI, and ATI provides a FAQ for their 'Powered by' partners;

<A HREF="http://ati.com/support/partner/faq.html" target="_new">http://ati.com/support/partner/faq.html</A>

Should answer most of your questions.

- You need a licence to buy a gun, but they'll sell anyone a stamp <i>(or internet account)</i> ! <font color=red>RED</font color=red> <font color=green>GREEN</font color=green> :tongue: GA to SK
 
In http://www.greytech.ca I sent them an e-mail to asked if I could order the ATI RADEON 9800 PRO W/128MB AGP EA $579.00 by phone. I live in Alberta so they told me that they would only accept online orders. But the problem is that I have to type my bank card number on the internet. And I don't think this is safe. I was wondering if somehow hackers can go see my or anyother bank card numbers and still all the money in the bank? Did anybody ever order stuff online? I don't think it's safe but what about you guys? Do you guys think it's safe? In the replie from http://www.greytech.ca they told me that it was safe and everything. But hackers can do anything. So they might be able to see those bank card numbers that people send on the internet.
 
It's relatively safe, but nothing is absolute. However if it is encrypted then the transaction is safe, just not sure about the records kept, that's the worrisome part, but VERY unlikely.
HOWEVER, ALWAYS buy using a credit card when buying online, you get additional protection, unlike bank/chequinq statements. Credit cards protect against fraud and hackers, direct bank info, not so much. If you don't have a crdit card you may be out of luck, can you have someone else buy it for you using their credit card? That's the safest way to do it.

- You need a licence to buy a gun, but they'll sell anyone a stamp <i>(or internet account)</i> ! <font color=red>RED</font color=red> <font color=green>GREEN</font color=green> :tongue: GA to SK
 
A little paranoid, are we?

People make me laugh. They're afraid to order something online with a CC, but then they'll call an 800 number and give their CC info to the schmuck at the other end without a second thought.

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well, ive safely ordered numerous items online from newegg.com, B&H Photography, and Staples.com. so far no one has stolen my credit card #

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The way they protect is the buyer protection programs they institute (like limited liability). You would have to ask your credit card company for specifics, but most (at least Visa, MC, AmEx) have extensive protections. Safer than simply giving out your bank info.

- You need a licence to buy a gun, but they'll sell anyone a stamp <i>(or internet account)</i> ! <font color=red>RED</font color=red> <font color=green>GREEN</font color=green> :tongue: GA to SK
 
I went in http://www.iccomputers.ca. I am trying to contact them by e-mail. I sent a question to info@internetcentre.com and quote@internetcentre.com 2 or 3 days ago and I didn't get a response. So I want to call them. But the problem is that in the "contact us" section. I don't know if the numbers are toll free. Do you know if the are? And I want to contact the store in Edmonton because it's closer to me then Calgary. But there are 3 numbers. So I don't know witch one is the best. Do you know?
 
I don't know which of the Edmonton locations would be good, I always call/visit the Calgary downtown branch as it is close to work.
If you have the long distance calling plan I would call them on Sat. as they ae open and it would be free. Otherwise I would go with the China Town (Central) then the West location just based on likely volumes. However that's just a guess, not sure about he size/volume of the Edmonton locations.

- You need a licence to buy a gun, but they'll sell anyone a stamp <i>(or internet account)</i> ! <font color=red>RED</font color=red> <font color=green>GREEN</font color=green> :tongue: GA to SK