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It is pathetic using these sweatshops also incidentally in the U.S. for making these products for mainly for the rich to buy and soak off not caring about these people at all.
 


Don't even need to read further. + infinity. :)
 

I have never fully agreed with the idea that move to a mostly service economy is a good idea. After all, restaurant employees are "service" workers.

 
Do you know SF has the highest paid starting salary in the country at $10.25 per hour.Other states should start to do the same and cities.
 
To the OP:

Since all I do is heavy word processing (average about 1,000 words a day), I would never go to Apple. Mainly because a $400 HP will do it about the same as a $1,000 Mac. So, why pay more for a flashy UNIX OS when they both will end up running Word anyway, and do the job the same?
 
My 20 year old son uses both ..... from a capital investment or enthusiast standpoint, the PC is hard to beat. However from a cost of ownership standpoint, the Apple's pretty much stand alone ****if**** "time is money" applies. It almost always works, and if it doesn't work they replace it. He built a PC ($2500k build w/ IPS Monitor for his Photo Editing) ,but since he picked up the MacBook Pro, he does all his schoolwork on the Mac.

My son has reinstalled Windows on his 22 month old box 4 times to date ..... we endured 20 separate tech support calls and 5 RMA's with EVGA over a GFX card that wouldn't run advertised factory OC speeds. If you have ever spent time on the phone with Tech Support cause ya PC don't work, ya have experienced the "blame the other guy" dance .... the MoBo guy blames the GFX guy and the GFX guy blames the PSU guy and the wheel goes round and round. If ya time is worth even $10 an hour, over a 3 year ownership period, with all the PC tweaking, drivers hassles, etc....... the Apple price premium can easily disappear. Of course, if your time has no monetary value, then that advantage disappears.

For me, as an AutoCAD user, I'm chained to the PC ..... then again, I don't really mind personally as I enjoy the tinkering....but for those who don't, I can't dismiss the fact that nuisance free computer ownership is attractive to a lot of people and I don't fell the need to denigrate them for that choice.
 
If you want to switch to Mac just to do the same things you did well with a PC then it probably means you have been listening to too much Apple propaganda. It's understandable if you want to do something on a Mac that you normally cannot do with a PC like development for Apple exclusive products but the basic word processing doesn't need a thousand dollar machine when there are cheaper alternatives.

Every OS has it's own niche in the market, and while Windows and OS X share some of those niches, I personally think Windows does better at the basics of those niches.
 
Unless you're developing for Apple, you don't need a Mac anything. The only difference between a Mac and Windows computer is the OS... Apple uses the exact same hardware everyone else does... so really there is nothing special about them. Of course, there are a lot of people out there that will find the need to justify the exorbitant amount of money they paid for their Mac by telling you how "superior" it is to Windows.

If viruses are that big of a concern to you, then you're visiting the wrong types of sites or getting way too loose in your downloading / attachment opening habits. I never get viruses on my three Windows machines because I know not to click "Yes" on every damn prompt that pops up. If you can't be bothered to read what you're agreeing to, you deserve every bit of malware you get.
 
Curious why you always on the Apple site if you hate the product so much?
 
i think it's mac's quintessential goal to be snobbish. it's part of their marketing ploy. several time, my friends brought their macs for repair and they were turned away. they don't like old macs hanging around.

but they still stick with mac
 
It depends where you live this would happen.Mac owners are not snobbish or there stores.
 
What OS do you really use in your mac? thanks
 
I used to have Mac OS X Snow Leopard, sold the computer, financial problems. The computers I use are gov't/school and work issue.

I remember back then, the Macbook was the ironically the cheapest 13" laptop that had 6 hours battery life. Mac OS X works great on Macs, never got the same amount of battery life on Windows and back then Linux was plain incompatible.

Seriously, who uses anything else on a Mac? 😛

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There's my Macbook 2,1 with my shared desktop. Macbook ran OS X 10.4 and desktop ran Windows XP/Fedora. Notice that the desktop uses an Apple keyboard... I did and still love those.

I also had a Mac Pro G3 with the preddy case and single-click only mouse and an Apple II (of some sort) back in the day.
 
Thanks for uploading the pictures of your gear. Impressive indeed.
 
The answer is simple, Marv... I just love pissing people like you off. People that need to spend twice the amount of money on a computer than they actually have to and then crow about how superior their choice is... when in reality it isn't. If Macs really were worth their price, I'd have no problem with them... but this "Apple tax" is ridiculous.

Hardware-wise there is absolutely nothing to set them apart... same motherboards, processors and RAM found in much cheaper Windows-based PCs; even manufactured by the same manufacturers. If you're going to tell me that slapping an Apple logo on an Intel motherboard magically makes it worth twice the price or that it costs that much, I'm going to tell you to quit blowing smoke up my ass.

Software-wise, MacOS is pretty... I'll give it that. It works well and isn't currently targeted by malware authors nearly as much as Windows. The trade-off, of course, is that there are a lot more apps available on the Windows side of things. Of course, you'll try to brag about how your Mac PC can run Windows (it better, it is a Wintel machine at it's core), but then what is the point of buying a Mac to primarily run Windows? You've then paid your "Apple tax" for absolutely nothing.

I'd love to buy a Macbook. I just can't justify that damn "Apple tax". When I can buy twice the hardware for half the price, it just doesn't make sense. Apple deserves to have limited market share... they price themselves into a niche market. I can't see how their manufacturing costs are that much different than anyone else's... so tell me Marv, what makes an Apple computer worth so much more money? Nothing you've stated and nothing you will ever state will make me believe that the "Apple tax" is worth it.
 
I wonder what Apple would charge someone if they had built this?



Because I paid less that $1000 and the I7-2600k cpu does 4.2ghz 24/7 with a H100 tucked inside of a Corsair Carbide 400R with a 470GTX with 2x4gb DDR3-1600 GSkills.
 
Simply you are cheap!
 
What is your resale value on this if you want to sell it? Zero homemade with no customer service backing it up.
 
I don't think a non Apple brand PC is cheap. In fact, they can be many times more expensive than Apple brand. Non Apple brand PC is just so much more flexible in configuration (from $300 office build, to $8000 extreme) and in the price range they are competing with Apple brand PC, the are better in performance per dollar.

I will buy it. I know enough to maintain it myself.

A non Apple brand PC and Apple brand PC differ by philosophy on what is the best computer. Choose what you believe in.
 
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