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Let me give you an idea how far wrong you are.
A $60 vga like the ATI 4670 is about 2x times faster from what ps3 and 360 have
A $100 vga like nvidia 9800gt or Ati 4770 are about 3x-3,5x times faster
Not to mention Vga's in the $200 and upwards price point
PS3 and 360 have only 256mb of ram a gaming pc has usually 2-4gb
You can make a game as optimized as you can can for a console, you can squeeze every bit of power out of consoles but an average $600-800 gaming pc let alone a $2000pc that alot of console users seem to think is the lowest price a gaming pc cost has so much power on its disposal that even bad ports ( aka GTA4 ) look and run far better on that pc
 


Basically it boils down to the ever expanding tech frontier on the PC side as opposed to the static hardware in a PS3 and Xbox 360.

If you bought an Xbox360 (or PS3) back in 2007 and buy another in 2009, you will basically be buying the same hardware. There's been a few tweaks here and there to hammer out bugs, but the hardware is the same (CPU & GPU), the hard drive will be whatever is available and is a non-issue.

On the PC side, there have been advances in on the CPU side. Phenom did not exist back in 2007, the Intel i7 series did not exists either (and all other in between CPUs as well). There are different clock speeds for each CPU too. XBox360 and PS3 does not give you the option to upgrade the CPU.

On the GPU part of the equation, back in 2007 we had the Radeon HD 2xxx series and the Geforce 88xxx series. Do you know the current GPU offerings are?

As technology advances on the PC end of the gaming industry, game developers want to take advantage of that extra power. So what do they do? They increase the load they put both CPU and GPU to get "improved" graphics. Sometimes they go overboard, like Crysis. Crytek jacked up the graphics load on the card for "Ultra High Settings" that even current generation of GPUs cannot handle those settings. GTA IV is another example which is a console port to the PC; it is a very, very bad port so much so that Rockstar basically recommended a Quad Core to play the game. Quad Core!!!!

Meanwhile on the console side, nothing has been augmented and also everything is standardized. All Xbox360s use the exact same ATI card and the exact same CPU. As they develop more games they will be able to optimize the game engine to be more efficient with the static hardware.

On the PC side you got ATI and nVidia; BOOM you got performance and optimization differences right there. Another BOOM, they don't just make one model each, they have several models and also a few generations as well. PC game developers need to create a game the will pawn all other games, but BOOM there are a shitload of PC owners who do not have current high-end video cards so that have two options:

[1] Develop a graphics engine that is friendly older general of cards. Or...
[2] Boom Fcuk those older generation cards, hell fcuk those with current generation cards (Crysis).

On the CPU side of things you got Intel and AMD, BOOM performance and optimization differences right there. Another Boom you got 1 core, 2 cores, 3 cores and 4 cores. Need I go on?

If you don't want to upgrade a PC, but you want to play current games and don't mind a one trick pony, then buy a console.
 
not to mention, i like playing my old consoles and not have to deal with the nintendo (oh man is that thing hard to get working now)

i play nes,snes,n64,genesis,ps1,gameboy(original-advance) on my computer
and this is on top of the games and school work and movies
also, how easy is it to......pirate.....a game on the console
 

Damn right....iv had modded PSX's Xbox's PS2's....i of course own all of those and sometimes tend to go back and play my NES's and N64's...i love all of my consoles....the old original xbox is actually still pretty useful as an emulator for anything below N64 like PSX/NES/SNES/Atari's/Gameboys etc...

I would have to say the easiest console to "mod" and get free games on is the DS...i mean you buy a card shaped like any other game for 30$ and that comes with a 1gb or 2gb japanese quality memstick....and DS games rarely get to 100mbs and usually stay between 30-50....i know i could have at least 20 games on my NDS lite with a 1gb card at one time...

All you have to do is put the rom onto the root of the memory stick and pop it into the ds and bam....great little console...the psp isn't much harder to mod and it does top the DS when it comes to emulating with its faster processor and graphics chipset...albeit the DS actually has games that i want to play released for it....honestly PSP has a ton of horrible games and nothing much on the horizon 🙁

 
Its every bit as easy to pirate a game for a console as it is for a PC. The misnomer that PC sales suffer more from pirating is one of my pet hates. I personally know way more people who have chiped Consoles than people who would let pirated,potentially virus carrying media anywhere near their PC.

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Here are some of the reasons why PC gaming is far better than consoles:

Consoles play games with 20-30fps and PC with 60+ fps.
Consoles have 1280×720 and even sometimes sub hd resolutions but PC have 1920x1200 and 2560x1600.
Also PC have better graphics(lighting, textures, shaders etc).
Consoles don’t have Anti-aliasing and Anisotropic filtering.
With the consoles you cannot mod the game.
Console gamers struggling with the controller in fps games.
With Consoles in multiplayer you had to always mute everybody to avoid whiny kiddy voices talking (very annoying).
There are tons of exclusives on PC gaming like starcraft 2, diablo 3, stalker, Crysis, the Witcher, Empire Total War etc too many too count.
If you like RTS and MMORPGS then PC is your only choice.
 

I know of many folk who haven't got a clue where to get pirated PC games from and when they have been given one they have no idea how to get it to work.
 
I'm really sorry for guys who think I was trolling. I seriously had no intent of doing that and I've never owned or ever used a PS or a XBOX in my life,but quite amazed about its graphics performance . Its just lately been seriously crazy about PC hardware and I just want to find an answer of what i couldn't quite find on google.


Anyway very informative.
Thanks .
 

Kudos for returning.
 

These are the morons commenting on the demonoid/TPB torrents....i hate listening to them...heck there posting in the games general section as well...

I had to sit through ebonics mixed in with pc hardware and a guy was wondering why an e8400 and 9400gt 1gb couldn't play saints row 2....either way pc games tend to have alot of steps...which can stump anyone who can't use google and simple thought....

Console is usually plug and play...or solder and play....
 

:kaola: I wouldn't enjoy listening to Mormons on a three-masted wooden sail ship that shipwrecked near the coast of Alaska in July 15, 1868 either, but it's a bit late to post about it.
 


Yup, when I think of torrent, I think about the 1926 silent American film directed by an uncredited Monta Bell based on a novel by Vicente Blasco Ibáñez. It was released on February 26 1926 and stars Ricardo Cortez and Greta Garbo.

People who use it to refer to BitTorrent need to read up on their history before reusing a term already ingrained in American culture.
 



I'm not sure what you mean by "normal PC" even a low budget $600 build is much more capable than the 360 and the PS3. Not only in graphics but the PC can do a lot more in general.




That however is a unfair comparison. That's like comparing a Ferrari to a Honda Civic of course the Ferrari costs a lot more and rightfully so. Your basically asking if we can make a Ferrari for $23,000 (about the price of the civic). If you want high performance it comes with a price.

Also the PC does more than the consoles and can be used for many more tasks. Its not like we are comparing two gaming platforms when in reality the PC much more than that. Also when it comes to prices the PC is much cheaper than it use to be and much more affordable while the consoles are doing the exact opposite and are becoming much more expensive with each generation the next generation of consoles may even reach the prices of a decent PC that is likely to outperform the console.

Even the prices of games seemed to have been averagely increased for consoles. The average new title costs what $60 now for the console? While the exact same title released at the same time will be about $50 for PC. That same title also looks better on the PC and is often moddable which gives the PC version a huge upper hand. The console gamers aren't going to be able to enjoy great mods for games like HL2 or Fallout 3.

Consoles use to have the ease of use advantage but now they too require game patches and such. This also basically forces the console gamers to have a internet connection in their homes too whether or not they wish to play multiplayer games. It may also just be a matter of time before viruses and spyware also hit the consoles. With such high popularity and the ability to surf the web (for the ps3 anyways but the next-gen consoles will likely all do it) and with no anti virus software protecting them its bound to cause major headaches for console gamers in the future. Even worse is the anti-virus software might be 3rd party and require a subscription as well as a initial retail fee. If its not 3rd party expect the console and games to go up in price averagely to make up for it. Things are going to get mighty costly for console gamers.
 
all of u forgot to mention one point.

lets say u bu a 360 and play games on it for many blissful years........
then a new xbox comes out and ur cconsole becomes useless as new games start coming on the newer console


on the other hand if u have a computer u can just upgrade it nstead of having to repace all of ur hardware.


 


Yeah, you just replace everything except the case.
 

Not exactly, Q6600's are two years old now and will be fine for PC gaming for years to come.
AMD platforms are built for expandability, who knows how long AM2/AM2+/AM3 combos will be on the top for.
Well, way longer than the xbox 360 will live for.
 
PS3's have one thing going for them though, Their processor. Its incredibly efficient and Intel has only had plans to start creating processors like the PS3's in 2018. I wish PC gamers would cut the consoles some slack, I have a Quad Core 3Ghz 6900? processor And a HD4870 1Gb with 4Gb of ram ,vista 64-bit.

Visually, you can only notice that PC graphics are better if you REALLY look for it. Also, On PS3's and X box's the games are simply made better, maybe not as graphically impressive but they run a whole lot better. A LOT BETTER, i can still get lag on Crysis (ffs stupid peice o-" And i hear that PS3 could actually run Crysis at a frame rate of 30 at a medium graphics setting, but they couldn't get it to multithread very efficiently and it was hard to do so yeah, thats why You don't see Crysis on the PS3.
 


Microsoft and Sony are claiming that their consoles will have a 10 year lifespan.



With very specific tasks, yes. It is still a nightmare to code for.
 
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