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Hey group!

I had some time recently (too much, actually)
to think about several useless stuff.

And now there is a question I have to ask:

Do you guys think that there are characteristics
which are much more common under Dippers then under
"normal" people?


I suppose that there are some,
but since I don't know many dippers personally,
I would make most of my assumptions probably
out of my own characteristics.
And before I post them here, I hope to get some other
impressions first 🙂


Dieter
 
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Dieter Drobny wrote:
> Do you guys think that there are characteristics
> which are much more common under Dippers then under
> "normal" people?

Yeah, they (OK, _we_) can't get a date.
 
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Diplomacy players are probably the only people in the world who see the
word "pie" and think of an Italian province rather than dessert.

Martin
 
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I just did the sprinters (4 question, 30 seconds) version of a
meyers-briggs personality at http://haleonline.com/psychtest/

I am an ENTJ. Extroverted Intuitive Thinking Judging

I wouldn't be surprised if there is a trend using this test.

Anyone else care to try it?

(a longer test is available at
http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/JTypes1.htm)
 
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Dieter Drobny wrote:
> Hey group!
>
> I had some time recently (too much, actually)
> to think about several useless stuff.
>
> And now there is a question I have to ask:
>
> Do you guys think that there are characteristics
> which are much more common under Dippers then under
> "normal" people?
>
>
> I suppose that there are some,
> but since I don't know many dippers personally,
> I would make most of my assumptions probably
> out of my own characteristics.
> And before I post them here, I hope to get some other
> impressions first 🙂
>
>
> Dieter

Hi Dieter

I don't think it's too much of a leap of faith to surmise that, on
average, Dip players are probably educated to a higher level than the
general population as a whole. That's probably as much a function of the
situations that people are likely to come across the game - i.e. high
school, college, university etc, as anything to do with inherent
characteristics.

Alastair
 
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Can you use smaller words. I'm a Sun reader.

--
Mike
"Alastair Tomlinson" <agtomlinson.nospamplease@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:433316df$0$16320$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader01.plus.net...
> Dieter Drobny wrote:
>> Hey group!
>>
>> I had some time recently (too much, actually)
>> to think about several useless stuff.
>>
>> And now there is a question I have to ask:
>>
>> Do you guys think that there are characteristics
>> which are much more common under Dippers then under
>> "normal" people?
>>
>>
>> I suppose that there are some,
>> but since I don't know many dippers personally,
>> I would make most of my assumptions probably
>> out of my own characteristics.
>> And before I post them here, I hope to get some other
>> impressions first 🙂
>>
>>
>> Dieter
>
> Hi Dieter
>
> I don't think it's too much of a leap of faith to surmise that, on
> average, Dip players are probably educated to a higher level than the
> general population as a whole. That's probably as much a function of the
> situations that people are likely to come across the game - i.e. high
> school, college, university etc, as anything to do with inherent
> characteristics.
>
> Alastair
 
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Well....
I completed the personality test as well... but perhaps I got some
questions wrong?!?

I am an ESTP - Action oriented, Pragmatic, Outgoing, Realistic...
Mentions many times about outgoing individual... not exactly me...

Possibly because I found in 3 of the 4 screen I was unable to really
decide which choice to make (~1/2 of each column described me (in my
opinion))


Craig at ANZ wrote:
> I just did the sprinters (4 question, 30 seconds) version of a
> meyers-briggs personality at http://haleonline.com/psychtest/
>
> I am an ENTJ. Extroverted Intuitive Thinking Judging
>
> I wouldn't be surprised if there is a trend using this test.
>
> Anyone else care to try it?
>
> (a longer test is available at
> http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/JTypes1.htm)
>
 
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In message <1127434166.326080.12730@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, Craig
at ANZ <brownc12@anz.com> writes
>I just did the sprinters (4 question, 30 seconds) version of a
>meyers-briggs personality at http://haleonline.com/psychtest/
>
>I am an ENTJ. Extroverted Intuitive Thinking Judging
>
>I wouldn't be surprised if there is a trend using this test.
>
>Anyone else care to try it?
>
>(a longer test is available at
>http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/JTypes1.htm)

If I find that this just leads to a sequence of pages which refer to
each other, and no actual test, what does that make me?

Nick
--
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INTP, though if I did it again, I might have a different answer.

So, with a sample size of three, the "T" is the only common theme.


Richard Galka wrote:
> I am an ESTP - Action oriented, Pragmatic, Outgoing, Realistic...
> Mentions many times about outgoing individual... not exactly me...
>
> Craig at ANZ wrote:
> > I am an ENTJ. Extroverted Intuitive Thinking Judging
 
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Dieter Drobny wrote:
> poutineq@yahoo.com wrote:
> Hm, I'll have to ask those I met on Rheincon who
> were married how they did this.
> Maybe they didn't date,
> but negotiated themself into it.
>
> (just say "Yes, I will" ...trust me!)
>
> 🙂

After ConQuest, I was describing one of the games to my girlfriend
(played Austria, was attacked simultaneously by Italy, Turkey, and
Germany, and managed to persuade all three to call off the attack), and
she told me it always makes her uneasy to hear about these games...it
gives her the sneaking suspicion I'm using the same tactics with her...
;-)
 
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Alastair Tomlinson wrote:

> Hi Dieter
>
> I don't think it's too much of a leap of faith to surmise that, on
> average, Dip players are probably educated to a higher level than the
> general population as a whole. That's probably as much a function of the
> situations that people are likely to come across the game - i.e. high
> school, college, university etc, as anything to do with inherent
> characteristics.

Oh yeah, I haven't thought of that.
But you're probably right. Whenever I read of someone's
job in this group or in games, he seems to be doing maths or
working in IT - and I study computer science as well.

So, are we mainly technical-mathematical freaks or what?
How does this fit to playing a game which needs communication,
shouldn't we all play chess to fit the cliches?


Dieter
 
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poutineq@yahoo.com wrote:

>
> Yeah, they (OK, _we_) can't get a date.
>

Hm, I'll have to ask those I met on Rheincon who
were married how they did this.
Maybe they didn't date,
but negotiated themself into it.

(just say "Yes, I will" ...trust me!)

🙂
 
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pouti...@yahoo.com wrote:
> INTP, though if I did it again, I might have a different answer.
>
> So, with a sample size of three, the "T" is the only common theme.
>

INFJ. Oh, well.
 
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I was a lit/creative writing major, and my two favorites are England
and Austria. Not sure if there's any correlation at all between
occupation/education and country preference.
 
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Martin Moore wrote:
> Diplomacy players are probably the only people in the world who see the
> word "pie" and think of an Italian province rather than dessert.
>

A quick test to determine if you're a Diplomacy player:

MAO: former Chinese leader, or large body of water?
Con: jailbird, or city in Turkey?
Par: golf score, or capital of France?
Bud: part of a plant, or Balkan supply center?
Gal: dame, or key strategic province?

Bonus question: when you hear the word 'breast', do you immediately
think '...to English Channel'?
 
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Craig at ANZ wrote:
> I just did the sprinters (4 question, 30 seconds) version of a
> meyers-briggs personality at http://haleonline.com/psychtest/
>
> I am an ENTJ. Extroverted Intuitive Thinking Judging
>
> I wouldn't be surprised if there is a trend using this test.
>
> Anyone else care to try it?
>
> (a longer test is available at
> http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/JTypes1.htm)
>
I am an INTJ. :)
 
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In article <433316df$0$16320$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader01.plus.net>,
Alastair Tomlinson <agtomlinson.nospamplease@yahoo.co.uk> writes
>Dieter Drobny wrote:
>> Hey group!
>>
>> I had some time recently (too much, actually)
>> to think about several useless stuff.
>>
>> And now there is a question I have to ask:
>>
>> Do you guys think that there are characteristics
>> which are much more common under Dippers then under
>> "normal" people?
>>
>>
>> I suppose that there are some,
>> but since I don't know many dippers personally,
>> I would make most of my assumptions probably
>> out of my own characteristics.
>> And before I post them here, I hope to get some other
>> impressions first 🙂
>>
>>
>> Dieter

/delurk/ This leads me to ponder whether one can tell anything about the
professional vocation of a player as compared with their country
preference. I'm an engineer. I like Italy. /relurk/ ChienFou
>
>Hi Dieter
>
>I don't think it's too much of a leap of faith to surmise that, on
>average, Dip players are probably educated to a higher level than the
>general population as a whole. That's probably as much a function of the
>situations that people are likely to come across the game - i.e. high
>school, college, university etc, as anything to do with inherent
>characteristics.
>
>Alastair

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In article <zfz9rIDKRCNDFwYN@asimere.com>,
John (MadDog) Probst <john@asimere.com> wrote:

>/delurk/ This leads me to ponder whether one can tell anything about the
>professional vocation of a player as compared with their country
>preference. I'm an engineer. I like Italy. /relurk/ ChienFou

Mathematical biologist, and I love to play Austria though I am
more successful with England. Oh, and INTP but skeptical about
the validity of the instrument....

Mary Kuhner mkkuhner@eskimo.com
 
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In message <wAAHQUTn90MDFAAz@maproom.demon.co.uk>, Nick Wedd
<nick@maproom.co.uk> writes
>In message <1127434166.326080.12730@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
>Craig at ANZ <brownc12@anz.com> writes
>>I just did the sprinters (4 question, 30 seconds) version of a
>>meyers-briggs personality at http://haleonline.com/psychtest/
>>
>>I am an ENTJ. Extroverted Intuitive Thinking Judging
>>
>>I wouldn't be surprised if there is a trend using this test.
>>
>>Anyone else care to try it?
>>
>>(a longer test is available at
>>http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/JTypes1.htm)
>
>If I find that this just leads to a sequence of pages which refer to
>each other, and no actual test, what does that make me?

Drunk. Now that I am sober, I am ESTP.

Nick
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Tehipite Tom wrote:
> A quick test to determine if you're a Diplomacy player:
>
> MAO: former Chinese leader, or large body of water?
> Con: jailbird, or city in Turkey?
> Par: golf score, or capital of France?
> Bud: part of a plant, or Balkan supply center?
> Gal: dame, or key strategic province?
>
> Bonus question: when you hear the word 'breast', do you immediately
> think '...to English Channel'?

🙂

Could someone do me a favour and ask some non-dipper, but native english
speaker what he associates to a "bounce"?
I'd do it myself, but there are no native english speakers around here.
 
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I just did the short test and the humanmetrics test and got ENTJ with a
notable 'N' score.

Come to think of it, I scored ENTJ in the test the school's carrerrs
department made me do 2.5 years ago, so I guess the test is somewhat
accurate (except it reccommended I be a security guard, golf club
manager [I kid you not] or a typist, none which seem to interest me -
then again, entrepeneur also appeared and thats kinda cool.]

TL
 
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poutineq@yahoo.com writes:

>Dieter Drobny wrote:
>> Do you guys think that there are characteristics
>> which are much more common under Dippers then under
>> "normal" people?

>Yeah, they (OK, _we_) can't get a date.

Not true, lots of us got dates just fine and then are married....

I think it is easier, Dieter, to define what a dipper is NOT.
In other words, what types of people would you tell "don't play
Diplomacy" and if they do, they come out REALLY angry.

The simplest and obvious one is people who like to play games where all
the rules are spelled out and clear are NOT dippers.

The second most obvious is that people who are unwilling to put
a personality into a game (it can be playacting or real) are NOT
going to be happy dippers.

So, I guess I can put that positively as "tolerate ambiguity"
and "personality matters".

Jim-Bob
 
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"Dieter Drobny" <einsvornkoffer@web.de> wrote in message
news:3pj8s9FaavffU1@news.dfncis.de...
> Tehipite Tom wrote:
>> A quick test to determine if you're a Diplomacy player:
>>
>> MAO: former Chinese leader, or large body of water?
>> Con: jailbird, or city in Turkey?
>> Par: golf score, or capital of France?
>> Bud: part of a plant, or Balkan supply center?
>> Gal: dame, or key strategic province?
>>
>> Bonus question: when you hear the word 'breast', do you immediately
>> think '...to English Channel'?
>
> 🙂
>
> Could someone do me a favour and ask some non-dipper, but native english
> speaker what he associates to a "bounce"?
> I'd do it myself, but there are no native english speakers around here.

My little brother just said "ball" and "castle"

Eg,
Tennis players bounce the ball before serving.
The children played on a bouncy castle.

So the dip term is pretty accurate for the image of a unit bouncing off
another, and returning to where it started. But I cannot translate it into
any other languages with any confidence.
 
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"Craig at ANZ" <brownc12@anz.com> writes:

>I just did the sprinters (4 question, 30 seconds) version of a
>meyers-briggs personality at http://haleonline.com/psychtest/

>I am an ENTJ. Extroverted Intuitive Thinking Judging

>I wouldn't be surprised if there is a trend using this test.

>Anyone else care to try it?

>(a longer test is available at
>http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/JTypes1.htm)

Partly, we've been down this road (in r.g.d and elsewhere in the hobby)
a few times before. One of them is the 9 type Enneagram which I
think is better suited for characterizing Dippers (www.9types.com)
where 1,4,6's (I think) do not make good dippers (this is reformers
[who want to correct people's behavior rather than work with it],
romantics [maybe we DO have trouble getting dates!!], and skeptics
[who bunker down too much to dip]).

Jim-Bob
 
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