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Gaming build. I already own the Graphics Card. Already have a Asu Tuf Gaming VG27AQ1A 2560x1440 WQHD Do not plan on overclocking at all. Just oem settings. Have the Power supply already EVGA 650 GQ, 80+ GOLD 650W

Don't want liquid cooling. Looking for help with Air Cpu cooler. Just simple easy to maintain-mount.
Looking for recommend RAM set up 16gb vs 32 gb?
Storage brand recommend? Samsung EVO still top dog ??
What version of Windows OS is the go to now?
What case should I go with?


Open to any suggestions or recommendations !!!!
Do not care nor want RGB colors but if so I wont see them, just save the money for non RGB!
 
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Gaming build for APEX legends , Overwatch 2. CoH3 I already own the Graphics Card. Already have a Asu Tuf Gaming VG27AQ1A 2560x1440 WQHD

Don't want liquid cooling. Looking for help with Air Cpu cooler. Just simple easy to maintain-mount.
Looking for recommend RAM set up 16gb vs 32 gb?
Storage brand recommend? Samsung EVO still top dog ??

Open to any recommendations on build so far.
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Case, and power supply isn't listed.
 
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CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor ($449.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AG620 67.88 CFM CPU Cooler ($54.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING X670E-PLUS WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard ($319.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL32 Memory ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus DUAL GeForce RTX 4070 12 GB Video Card ($599.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1543.96
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-04-18 03:20 EDT-0400

almost the same price (without the monitor) and miles better performance .
also with this build you have much better options for future upgrades .
what brand and model is your new 650w power supply ?
paying 638 bucks for rtx 3060 in 2023 is a big NO (that card is barely worth half as much) .
as for the case you can go with fractal focus 2 (not the best , but a solid mid-range option -
i would recommend to buy one extra 120mm rear fan as well since the case doesn´t have it preinstalled)
 
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@CabKing65 here's a few suggestions to your build. Since you don't plan on overclocking I would look at a B760 board with decent VRM's.

ASUS TUF GAMING B760-PLUS WIFI $209.99

https://www.asus.com/motherboards-components/motherboards/tuf-gaming/tuf-gaming-b760-plus-wifi/

or ...

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Cx...tx-lga1700-motherboard-mag-b760-tomahawk-wifi
MSI MAG B760 TOMAHAWK WIFI $199.99

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/MAG-B760-TOMAHAWK-WIFI

or ...

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BSB6MZ2L
Gigabyte B760 AORUS ELITE AX $179.99

www.gigabyte.com

B760 AORUS ELITE AX (rev. 1.x) Key Features | Motherboard - GIGABYTE Global

Lasting Quality from GIGABYTE.GIGABYTE Ultra Durable™ motherboards bring together a unique blend of features and technologies that offer users the absolute ...
www.gigabyte.com www.gigabyte.com

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B6FD741J
DeepCool AG620 Dual Tower CPU Cooler $54.99

AG620 - DeepCool

The DeepCool AG620 is a dual-tower 120mm CPU cooler that boasts impressive 260W cooling power performance that's been stripped down and optimized for terrific efficiency throughout. - DeepCool was founded with the mission of providing professional, innovative, high-performance PC hardware and...
www.deepcool.com

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09QV5KJHV
Western Digital Black SN770 2TB M.2 PCIe 4.0 x4 NVME SSD $119.99

or ...

Crucial P5 Plus 2TB M.2 PCIe 4.0 x4 NVME SSD $119.99

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/qP2WGX/lian-li-lancool-216-atx-mid-tower-case-lancool-216x
Lian Li LANCOOL 216 ATX Mid Tower Case $99.99

https://lian-li.com/product/lancool-216/

or ...

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/KLQcCJ/fractal-design-pop-air-atx-mid-tower-case-fd-c-poa1a-01
Fractal Design Pop Air ATX Mid Tower Case $88.98

https://www.fractal-design.com/products/cases/pop/pop-air/black-solid/

or ...

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/gWFbt6/fractal-design-focus-2-atx-mid-tower-case-fd-c-foc2a-07
Fractal Design Focus 2 ATX Mid Tower Case $79.98

www.fractal-design.com

Focus 2

Focus 2 offers a precise straight-forward design which has been carefully engineered to leverage its airflow potential. Its innovative approach to the internal layout creates flow throughout the case, making it enjoyable to build and upgrade in, while optimizing direct cooling to components.
www.fractal-design.com www.fractal-design.com

Rear exhaust fan for the Focus 2.
ARCTIC P12 PWM 120mm 4-Pin Case Fan $9.99

Choose a $599.99 RTX 4070 in that link down below (MSI, Gigabyte, Asus or PNY).


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Maybe u might have missed to mark the 3060 as already purchased and amazon just threw in its current pricing.

U will have to game on 1080p in that monitor unless its an old game or light game.

I would also suggest going for the 7800X3D if you can afford it.

U probably dont need a X670E mobo. a B650E like this can do the job just fine: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Tz...ifi-atx-am5-motherboard-b650e-pg-riptide-wifi

Just check for the required front panel connectors and usb and RGB headers and choose your mobo.
 
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You can build as is.

My thoughts:

Noctua has about the easiest and simplest cooler mounting system.
Noctua maintains a list of suitable coolers for various processors.
Here is the list for a 13700K:

INTEL Core i5-13600K | CPU Compatibility | Noctua Compatibility Centre

Series: Raptor Lake-S, Socket: LGA 1700
ncc.noctua.at ncc.noctua.at
Noctua NH-U12 redux is on the list, but I would not particularly recommend it.
A 13700K needs a better cooler to allow it to run at it's best capability.
I might suggest the NH-D15s:
noctua.at

NH-D15S

Tailored to provide superior RAM and PCIe compatibility, the NH-D15S is an asymmetrical single fan version of Noctua’s award-winning flagship model, the NH-D15. Thanks to its asymmetrical design, the NH-D15S clears the top PCIe slot on most µATX and ATX motherboards. At the same time, the single...
noctua.at noctua.at
One thing to look at is the height required. 160mm in this case.

Cases are a personal thing. Yes, looks count. You will be looking at it for a long time.
Lian-Li makes top quality cases.
How about the Lian li air mini:
The included pair of 140mm front intakes provide plenty of air flow.

No game, by itself needs more than 16gb.
But, with ram prices low, I would opt for 32gb. Particularly if you will have other tasks running while gaming.

Do not chase impressive sequential benchmarks on a m.2 device.
Most all activity is random.
I would think in terms of a samsung or Intel 2tb m.2 pcie device.
They make their own parts and can integrate them better.

Is there any feature of windows 11 that you want?
If not, consider w10 which has been out for a while and is better de bugged.
Buy the retail, not oem version in case you want a future motherboard upgrade.
Home is ok, PRO probably has nothing of value to you.
 
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man yall So kind . Thanks for the help so far!!!! Time to research now !!!

So far I have my Power supply , graphics card EVGA 3060 and monitor from my upgrades to my 2014 build. Just will reuse those since both are brand new still from Dec 2022.

Any others suggestions our welcome. For game wise I play Coh3 . Overwatch 2, Apex legends, Smite. My go to games at the moment. Looking forward to new games in the future and would like to be ready to go.
 
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Ok please check on this updated build.

Need help with Sound card , Case size and Brand , What kind of storage . M.2 Is all new to me. SSD was all my old builds.
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I would check out the onboard sound before making a decision on purchasing a card. That board has a decent audio codec along with DTS. Either one of those SSD's I posted earlier will work fine. Both are super fast and reliable.
 
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Ok please check on this updated build.

Need help with Sound card , Case size and Brand , What kind of storage . M.2 Is all new to me. SSD was all my old builds.
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I would check out onboard sound first.
You can always add a sound card later. Perhaps even your current one.
But sound cards can be tricky. They impact other components in perhaps an unknown way. Defer that decision.

Cases are a personal thing.
It needs to fit your parts, for your motherboard, you need to be able to handle a ATX motherboard with 7 expansion slots.
Lian li makes top quality cases.
I might suggest their Air mini:
Whatever you pick, buy the one you love the looks of; It will be with you for a long time.

M.2 is just a size format. It is handy because you no longer need a psu power connection and a sata data cable connection.
It will fit in a slot in your motherboard.
M.2 comes in both sata and pcie flavors, pcie being faster sequentially and no more expensive. 2tb would be a typical size. You can always add more storage later.
You can still use/reuse a 2.5" sata ssd.

On a build with this budget, do not go cheap on the cooler.
The AG620 has only 120mm fans and will not cool as well as the noctua NH-D15s which uses 140mm fans.
140mm will move more air quietly.
 
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I would check out onboard sound first.
You can always add a sound card later. Perhaps even your current one.
But sound cards can be tricky. They impact other components in perhaps an unknown way. Defer that decision.

Cases are a personal thing.
It needs to fit your parts, for your motherboard, you need to be able to handle a ATX motherboard with 7 expansion slots.
Lian li makes top quality cases.
I might suggest their Air mini:
Whatever you pick, buy the one you love the looks of; It will be with you for a long time.

M.2 is just a size format. It is handy because you no longer need a psu power connection and a sata data cable connection.
It will fit in a slot in your motherboard.
M.2 comes in both sata and pcie flavors, pcie being faster sequentially and no more expensive. 2tb would be a typical size. You can always add more storage later.
You can still use/reuse a 2.5" sata ssd.

On a build with this budget, do not go cheap on the cooler.
The AG620 has only 120mm fans and will not cool as well as the noctua NH-D15s which uses 140mm fans.
140mm will move more air quietly.
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on the LIAN LI O11 AIR MINI Black Looks great and priced good. I really don't care about looks. Was wondering about the NH D15. Will that case be big enough to hold a NH D 15?

How many M.2 slots does a mother board usually come with now? I seen the recommendations for WD and Crucial. Wonder why not Intel or Samsung for 2 Tb M.2 was not recommended ?

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geofelt said:
I would check out onboard sound first.
You can always add a sound card later. Perhaps even your current one.
But sound cards can be tricky. They impact other components in perhaps an unknown way. Defer that decision.

Cases are a personal thing.
It needs to fit your parts, for your motherboard, you need to be able to handle a ATX motherboard with 7 expansion slots.
Lian li makes top quality cases.
I might suggest their Air mini:
Whatever you pick, buy the one you love the looks of; It will be with you for a long time.

M.2 is just a size format. It is handy because you no longer need a psu power connection and a sata data cable connection.
It will fit in a slot in your motherboard.
M.2 comes in both sata and pcie flavors, pcie being faster sequentially and no more expensive. 2tb would be a typical size. You can always add more storage later.
You can still use/reuse a 2.5" sata ssd.

On a build with this budget, do not go cheap on the cooler.
The AG620 has only 120mm fans and will not cool as well as the noctua NH-D15s which uses 140mm fans.
140mm will move more air quietly.
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The OP is running an i5 13600K on a B760 board.

www.tomshardware.com

DeepCool AG620 Air Cooler Review: Great Performance, Reasonable Value

With a reasonable price of only $55 USD, DeepCool’s AG620 offers a good air cooling value. But you may be bothered by its fan pitch at top speed.
www.tomshardware.com www.tomshardware.com
 
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on the LIAN LI O11 AIR MINI Black Looks great and priced good. I really don't care about looks. Was wondering about the NH D15. Will that case be big enough to hold a NH D 15?

How many M.2 slots does a mother board usually come with now? I seen the recommendations for WD and Crucial. Wonder why not Intel or Samsung for 2 Tb M.2 was not recommended ?

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The air mini can hold up to a 170mm cooler.
The NH-D15 is 165mm; the nh-D15s is 160mm.
So far, so good.
But with anything except low profile ram, the NH-D15 may have clearance issues with the front fan that need to be resolved.
Look at the spec diagrams from each.
The NH-D15s is designed for one fan operation.
Adding a front fan may only make a 2c. difference.

Used to be just one m.2. But, today, most will have at least two m.2 slots and usually more.

I happen to like samsung and intel for their ssd devices.
They make their own controllers and nand parts so they can integrate better.
A while back the 2tb version of the Samsung 980 PRO
experienced premature wear. Some are put off by that.
The issue has since been fixed with current microcode.
And Samsung magician can check and update your microcode if you happen to get old stock.
 
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The air mini can hold up to a 170mm cooler.
The NH-D15 is 165mm; the nh-D15s is 160mm.
So far, so good.
But with anything except low profile ram, the NH-D15 may have clearance issues with the front fan that need to be resolved.
Look at the spec diagrams from each.
The NH-D15s is designed for one fan operation.
Adding a front fan may only make a 2c. difference.

Used to be just one m.2. But, today, most will have at least two m.2 slots and usually more.

I happen to like samsung and intel for their ssd devices.
They make their own controllers and nand parts so they can integrate better.
A while back the 2tb version of the Samsung 980 PRO
experienced premature wear. Some are put off by that.
The issue has since been fixed with current microcode.
And Samsung magician can check and update your microcode if you happen to get old stock.
Click to expand...


Should I get another Matching 2tb M.2 for Stand alone O.S??

I have 3 ssds now. 1 Pics and Games SSD, One stand alone O.S .
 
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Should I get another Matching 2tb M.2 for Stand alone O.S
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You would need a Z790 board for that due to the fact the B760 chipset doesn't have enough PCIe lanes to run dual M.2 SSD's without gimping the second M.2 SSD. If you do decide to go with a Z790 board and run dual M.2 SSD's you want a 500GB SSD for your OS and a 2TB SSD for your storage.

This board pretty much as it all. Realtek 4080 audio codec, PCIe 5.0, WiFi 6E, 16 60A phase, etc ...

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/8m6p99/msi-pro-z790-a-wifi-atx-lga1700-motherboard-pro-z790-a-wifi
MSI PRO Z790-A WIFI $239.99

www.msi.com

PRO Z790-A WIFI

PRO series motherboards tuned for better performance by 16 Duet Rail Power System, DDR5 memory, Lightning Gen5 PCIe, Pre-installed IO, Extended Heatsink, M.2 Shield Frozr, Wi-Fi 6E, 2.5G LAN, USB 3.2 Gen 2x2
www.msi.com www.msi.com
 
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Why Me - What are your top 3 recommendations for Mid size Hardware Case's???
Top 2 CPU cooler's you would choose to cool the Factory settings for a Intel Corei513600KCPU???
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Best value atm is this cpu cooler.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B6FD741J
DeepCool AG620 Dual Tower CPU Cooler $54.99

For $10 more you get an upgraded version of that cooler with quieter fans.

DeepCool AK620 Dual Tower CPU Cooler $64.99

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/deepcool-ak620-review

AK620 - DeepCool

Achieve dominant cooling and silent efficiency with the DeepCool AK620 High Performance CPU Cooler equipped with six copper heat pipes stacked with a dense dual-tower fin array and two 120 FDB fans. - DeepCool was founded with the mission of providing professional, innovative, high-performance...
www.deepcool.com
 
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There are a number of twin tower coolers out there.
Thermalright peerless asassin is another:
www.tomshardware.com

Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE Review: Incredible, Affordable Air Cooling Performance

Shockingly cool and quiet, less than $40!
www.tomshardware.com www.tomshardware.com
My 2cents:
With a high end build, do not pinch pennies on the cooler.
You should want 140mm fans like the noctuas and not the 120mm fans on lesser coolers.
They can get noisy if they need to spin up for max cooling.
Do not get hung up on fast sequential speeds for ssd devices.
Most all of the activity will be random.
Go ahead and reuse your sata ssd drives.
In this test, experts could not tell the difference between sata dds, pcie m.2 and high speed devices.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DKLA7w9eeA
 
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www.bhphotovideo.com

be quiet! Pure Base 500DX Mid-Tower Case (Black)

Buy be quiet! Pure Base 500DX Mid-Tower Case (Black) featuring ATX, Micro-ATX, Mini-ITX Support, Tempered Glass Side Panel, 3 x 140mm Fans Included, 5 x 2.5", 2 x 3.5" Drive Bays, 7 x Expansion Slots, USB 3.1 Gen 1 | USB 3.1 Gen 2 Type-C, Audio Out | Microphone, Support for 360mm Front Radiator...
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be quiet! Pure Base 500DX Mid-Tower Case (Black)​

Would this be a good option?
 
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www.bhphotovideo.com

be quiet! Pure Base 500DX Mid-Tower Case (Black)

Buy be quiet! Pure Base 500DX Mid-Tower Case (Black) featuring ATX, Micro-ATX, Mini-ITX Support, Tempered Glass Side Panel, 3 x 140mm Fans Included, 5 x 2.5", 2 x 3.5" Drive Bays, 7 x Expansion Slots, USB 3.1 Gen 1 | USB 3.1 Gen 2 Type-C, Audio Out | Microphone, Support for 360mm Front Radiator...
www.bhphotovideo.com www.bhphotovideo.com

be quiet! Pure Base 500DX Mid-Tower Case (Black)​

Would this be a good option?
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That's a good case. ^^
 
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Hello all !!! Still Stuck on MOBO's. Looking at this Model MOBO Z690 DDR4 32GB Ram Intel Socket

Now which Brand of Z690 DDR4 MOBO to Combo with a Intel Core i5-13600K Desktop Processor
14 cores (6 P-cores + 8 E-cores) 24M Cache, up to 5.1 GHz

No gonna Over Clock the system just run it stock temps.
 
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