poor gaming performance in windows xp

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I just did a clean install of winxp and my frame rates have dropped 50 frames from where it was when i had windows 2000 pro installed...i thought that xp was supposed to be a good gaming platform....

it was 250 at 640*480
now its 202.8 fps at 640*480

the operating system runs great but the gaming totally blows a wad!! any suggestions or anyone with the same problems?
im running nvidia 21.83
geforce 2 ultra
amd athlon 1.2 @ 1403
512mb pc 2400 corsair
hercules fortissimo II
wd 60gb
 
Yeah, 200 FPS is nowhere near enough to make a game playable. Especially under an otherwise good OS.



:)

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As long as I work for a certified M$ gold company we get all the software for free and can use it on as many machines as we like... as long as it's for the company :smile:

Nice <b><font color=green>Lizards</b></font color=green> <b>crunch</b> Trolls cookies....... :smile: Yummy!! :smile:
 
Have you also noticed that it isn't possible to start programs that needs direct contact with hardware ( a motherboard monitor program or SiSoft Sandra)the first 30-45 secs after the system seems finished loading XP ? It is possible to start all other kind of programs during this "latency" period.

Maybe the fast OS loading is accomplished by postponing loading several low level drivers until after the User IF is up and running.

Try for yourself.


--------------------- P4 1700 MHz ---------------------

Overcloked 1700 MHz P4 Willamette Socket 478 with stock cooling benchmarked using SiSoft Sandra. "Crippled" by a generic Antec 300W power-supply.

CPU Arithmetic.
Dhrystone ALU: 4039
Whetstone FPU/SSE2: 1097/2571 MFLOPS

Multi-Media:
Integer iSSE2: 8304 it/s
Floating-Point iSSE2: 10109 it/s

Memory Bandwidth:
RAM Int MMX: 1950 MB/s
RAM Float FPU: 1957 MB/s
 
Ummm....question. How the hell did you get all of that in your sig?

<font color=orange>Quarter</font color=orange> <font color=blue>Pounder</font color=blue> <font color=orange>Inside</font color=orange>
 
You think he types that out every time?
Or pastes it in?

<font color=orange>Quarter</font color=orange> <font color=blue>Pounder</font color=blue> <font color=orange>Inside</font color=orange>
 
Actually a very good question, indeed...



--------------------- P4 1700 MHz ---------------------

Overcloked 1700 MHz P4 Willamette Socket 478 with stock cooling benchmarked using SiSoft Sandra. "Crippled" by a generic Antec 300W power-supply.

CPU Arithmetic.
Dhrystone ALU: 4039
Whetstone FPU/SSE2: 1097/2571 MFLOPS

Multi-Media:
Integer iSSE2: 8304 it/s
Floating-Point iSSE2: 10109 it/s

Memory Bandwidth:
RAM Int MMX: 1950 MB/s
RAM Float FPU: 1957 MB/s
 
He definitely pastes it in.

Speaking of which... I think we should rally and try to get the sig character limit raised. 100 characters is really small. Especially since that includes any markup you use which really sucks.


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Yeah, I noticed that too. I think it's a trick MS is using to make us think XP is loading quickly. But when you get to the logon screen it actually hasn't loaded everything yet.

I've learned not to logon until about 10 seconds after the logon screen appears. That seems to take care of any problems with drivers not being loaded.

"There's no such thing as gravity, the Earth just sucks"
 
Can you actually notice ANY difference between playing at 250 fps and 202.8 fps? If not, then what does it matter if you like the OS?

Sometimes it's really easy to get caught up in benchmarking instead of real world performance.

Just my opinion. Hope everything works out to your satisfaction.

"There's no such thing as gravity, the Earth just sucks"
 
i know it may sound like im whining over nothing but i just hate upgrading and then it not being worth it....but i didnt pay for the xp so that make me feel better =-]....the only reason i had to upgrade is because i overclocked my fsb too much and cause a system file to corrupt and it wouldnt start so i decided to upgrade while i was at it....neways thanks for the replys...
neone know of any xp tweaks?

Civ
 
Windows 2000 Pro to Windows XP isn't as worthwhile of an upgrade as Windows 9x/Me to WinXP is. Amazing is all I can say. Sure, I had to throw out some of my old old peripherals, but Windows XP is light years ahead of Me in performance, stability, usability and features. BTW, I'm having a hard time getting my ATI TV Wonder working probably under XP, anyone have any ideas? The video is extremely distorted.

AMD technology + Intel technology = Intel/AMD Pentathlon IV; the <b>ULTIMATE</b> PC processor
 
Windows 2000 Pro to Windows XP isn't as worthwhile of an upgrade as Windows 9x/Me to WinXP is. Amazing is all I can say. Sure, I had to throw out some of my old old peripherals, but Windows XP is light years ahead of Me in performance, stability, usability and features. BTW, I'm having a hard time getting my ATI TV Wonder working probably under XP, anyone have any ideas? The video is extremely distorted.

AMD technology + Intel technology = Intel/AMD Pentathlon IV; the <b>ULTIMATE</b> PC processor
 
yes! you are quite right! I actually read about that on some site (wich I dont remember ofcurse..)

It works different from w2k wich sends requests out to hardware from the loaded driver and wait for answer before continuing loading the next driver. XP loads all the drivers first and then starts to ask the hardware and collects all the answers during the rest of the loading of the os.
Even thou my english isnt that good I hope you understand a bit of what Im trying to say anyway.. 🙂
 
well of course those FPS matters are very important.
firstly, notice he stated 250 FPS @ 640x480.
now I know that i never NEVER play games at 640x480.

so dropping 50 FPS means nothing in that respect.

now depending on the game.. that 50 FPS less could easily translate to going from 50 to 40 FPS when you crank your game up to 1600x1200. or even dropping from 30 to 25.. oooo yuck... anyway... it can also so mean that game that only jsut runs on 2000 is potentially unplayable on XP cause of jitter and lag and other graphically satanic words.

balzi

"I spilled coffee all over my wife's nighty... ...serves me right for wearing it?!?"
 
it was 250 at 640*480
now its 202.8 fps at 640*480
Click to expand...

Please don't waste your time posting these kinds of stupid comments. If you really are serious then compare your framerates at a decent resolution.

Only a crack smoking dumbass would play at 640x480

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did you try the detonator xp drivers from nvidia? I installed these and got 400 more on 3dmark2001 (gf2mx 64meg)

Next time you wave - use all your fingers
 
Ok duche bag is this better for ya?

1024*768 (plenty playable resolution for ya?)

was 216 fps
now 176.8 fps

if I thought it was a stupid post then I wouldnt have posted it....and if you knew anything... that big of a difference at such a low resolution means (where it isnt video card intensive) is just as serious as a high resolution benchmark since it takes most of the video card out of the equation...so cpu utilization is important and that benchmark isnt stupid YOU ARE so stay out of my post moron!!..
 
wow.. you choose an apropriate nick: civilised.
Try to live up to it.

Also.. like you mentioned. 640x480 is not bottlenecked by the GPU.. the performance is more an indication of the driver performance in fact.

One more thing: I have yet to see a monitor capable of more than 120 Hz. So who cares if its 150 or 250 fps ? You're not getting more then 85 fps anyway if your monitor is set at 85 Hz (85 Hz= 85 screen refreshes per second).

Now go flame somewhere else please.

= The views stated herein are my personal views, and not necessarily the views of my wife. =
 
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