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I'm looking to do a surround and gamer headphone review in the future, not sure when tho.




In this review we focused on the premium 2.0 offerings from a number of manufacturers, so price wasn't part of the criteria. I might try a budget sub-$100 roundup in the future tho.
 
"Whatever you choose, you should try these options out at a local electronics outlet before you commit to a purchase."

In my opinion, the best statement in the whole article. 😀

Testing of audio (and video) quality doesn't tell you what your ears will hear, in general and specifically. I think it is best if you can listen to the speakers you are considering while playing what you most intend to listen to, unless you aren't picky. Unfortunately, that's not always practical.

Klipsch is one brand I put at the top of my "check it out" list, and they produce some competitively priced subwoofer systems.

😉
 
This article should list some more specifics when it comes to the frequency response portion. For example, what microphone was used for the test? A microphone is very similar to a speaker and each has its own frequency response curve and almost zero of them are perfectly flat... I've only seen one ever that's supposed to be like 99.9% flat, and it's a large awkward mic used for applications like earthquake studying. Did they use a Shure SM-57 or a cheezy computer 1/16" plug mic.
Also, perhaps some room information would also be helpful? Sound from speakers hits walls, reflects and when the waves meet and interact, things additions and subtractions in dB occur. Essentially, peaks and valleys occur at many various listening positions and frequencies throughout your room. Higher Frequencies have shorter wavelengths and can attentuate before hitting a wall even, however, it's the long wavelengths of low frequencies that causes issues. So, the best way to handle this is to use bass traps (not studio foam) to control low frequencies in a room. Diffusors can be added to scatter waves in more random directions and high frequency absorbers in the first reflection areas of sidewalls and ceilings. We're not talking about studio foam either. If you want more information like this, see realtraps com for faq.

OK, so, assuming nothing like the above has been done, that COULD explain why the recorded frequency responses all have a dip at 100 hz and all have a spike at 15 khz
and all have extreme roll off in the 20 hz area. Obviously, PC desktop speakers are limited, and any non subwoofer is going to have problems beginning anywhere between 100-250 hz and all the way down. With this in mind, we can really only compare these speakers to each other, considering the environment. It's possible that while the MM-1 has the best bass response of these four below about 80 hz, it has the worst dip at 120 hz. If this room had a design that caused natural dips at 120 hz, well, then that explains why these speakers have dips there, where the Gigaworks T40 and Studiophile AV 40 would appear, still, to have better curves at those frequencies, but, it could be that this room has a -15 db dip at that frequency. If THAT were the case, then, the MM-1 would still be pretty flat there and look good, while the others would have spikes there. So, I'd be interested to know a little more about your room environment, mic choice, etc.

Also, many speaker and microphone manufacturers show an advertised frequency response curve on their websites and/or in the user manuals.

Also, this statement:
"M-Audio might not be an instantly-recognizable brand for consumers" should probably be replaced with "M-Audio might not be an instantly recognizable brand for the author of this review" because M-Audio has been making and selling speakers a long time, and primarily for DIY sound recording, as well as many other various musical products. Anyone who's looked through Musician's Friend magazines for the last few decades or played music and even thought about recording it, or possibly have been to a music store, is likely to have at least seen or heard of the name M-Audio. Trust me, there's a lot of musicians out there. While M-Audio speakers are generally more for budget studio applicatons, they more than likely have a pretty recognizable name.
 
[citation][nom]RobinPanties[/nom]"M-Audio might not be an instantly-recognizable brand for consumers"[/citation]
The statement stands for itself. All musicians are consumers, but not all consumers are musicians. I know M-Audio because I sold some of their products back when I was managing a computer store, mainly the Key Studio line and some monitors. If it weren't for that though, I would have never heard of the company. When you think of consumer brands, you think Logitech, Creative Labs and other brands you see at Wal-Mart and the like.
 
The next time you do a review of 2-channel speakers, please consider the Audioengine line. I own a pair of A2s and couldn't be happier with them.
 
I have bought Bose Companion 3 Series II Multimedia Speakers for one machine. It's the best experience to me compared to any other brand. But Bose is quite expensive.
 
[citation][nom]icehot[/nom]Nice review, I bought the Creative Gigaworks T40 Series II about 4 months ago, and have loved them, the sound is superb.[/citation]
I agree. I have them too.
 
read it all... tried to stay interested, well written... but its hard to get excited about speakers >_< i use the same 13w yamaha speakers i bought for 10 buck when i was 15 on my 166 mhz cyrix system >_<

maybe i'll listen to the advice though the altec's seem resonably priced and looks liek they sound pretty good... and they look much cooler than my old junk boxes
 
Tell M-audio your going to need some dsm3's for a round up 😀 back to reality I have tried the lower budge offerings, once you hear the sound of a good set of monitors you will never go back. I am completely happy with my M-audio systems, Bx5a's and my lx4 set with the powered sub, more money but well worth it imo.
 
[citation][nom]Randomacts[/nom]No love for the budget minded folk?[/citation]

The article is about "premium" 2.0 speaker setups - not about "the best 2.0 setups in terms of value [or at a particular price point]." So, no - no love for budget-minded folks in this particular instance.
 
Pointless article. Who would buy 2.0 setup for 150$ when one can buy other 2.0 setup for 10$ and won't hear the difference on the integrated sound card.
 
thanks for the review.

I am wondering where the good old premium Bose Computer MusicMonitor are in compare with these 4 speakers. With price at $399, does it actually stand up againt the B&W MM-1?
 
[citation][nom]Cleeve[/nom]To summarize: In a perfect world every article we wrote up would be the ultimate comprehensive guide, but the realities dictate we bite off smaller chunks than that.Hope that clears some things up for you,- Don[/citation]

Good follow up article Don! It was a good light reading. There are plenty of us 2.0 speaker enthusiasts.
Never really liked the 2.1, 3.1, 4.1, 5.1, 6.1, 7.1 speaker systems.

BTY: the M-Audio AV40 uses MDF cabinet, which gives impressive and accurate reproduction. I got the AV40 for $150. And I am not sure any manufacture sells speakers/monitors that are made out of MDF wood for less than $200.

With regards to the B&W MM-1, I cannot believe they're $499 for such mediocre sound. I could have pay $300 for M-Audio BX5a, and the sound quality definitely surpasses the MM-1.
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"Real" stereo and home theater speakers don't have volume and treble/bass controls built into the speakers because they aren't necessary--you can adjust the volume and treble/bass at the amp or receiver end. Indeed, it is undesirable to embed such controls in the speakers, as doing so adds extra electronics in the speaker enclosure and will undoubtedly interfere with its harmonics. Volume and treble/bass controls on computer speakers are even more pointlessly redundant. Your computer probably has volume controls built into the keyboard; there's a volume slider on the taskbar in Windows, and base/treble adjustments and more are only a couple of clicks away. All of these controls are sitting right in front of the user, arguably easier to reach than redundant controls on the speakers.

That said, there is no comparison between 2.0 and 2.1 speakers. Even with full-size speakers using 6" to 8" drivers in a home stereo setup, powered by a good amp, the best thing you can ever do for the sound is to add a subwoofer. Once the drivers are relieved from producing sound below 75hz (or whatever the ideal crossover may be for your setting and system) they will sound far better and more detailed. This rule is doubly true for the tiny 2"-4" "drivers" that you see in computer speakers, which have a hard time producing accurate bass response at all, much less trying to reproduce "subwoofer" frequencies below 75hz.
 
I don't think Tom's is an appropriate place to talk about (any) 2.0 speakers, since most of the ppl here are gaming oriented, so are most of other Tom's benchmarks. Not so many gamers appreciate the importance of the acoustic quality as much as multi-channel positioning and surrounding effect. There are better places to do research on picking 2.0 speakers out there.

That being said, I own a pair of AV40 and am loving them. :)
 
I am using MAudio Bx8 monitors and teh sound is good. Sometimes they are on sale ~$250 for a pair. Pro sound with 8" woofer and silk tweeters...Teh lower and cheaper model Bx5 is also very good. Actually, I would suggest studio monitors to anybody willing to spend over $100 for computer sound. Dedicated expensive PC speakers are usually worse than any studio monitors, yet the price is similar.
 


Please read the "Test Setup And Benchmark" page. All the info is there.




I go out of my way to stress this in the article. I'm getting the impression you didn't read it, but looked at the charts.




You validated the statement in your retort.
The statement calls the brand "consumers", a separate market from buyers interested in "DIY sound recording"... i.e. prosumers, hobbyists, and professionals.
 


I think it's quite appropriate. Sound is an important part of the PC experience, so it's just as appropriate a topic as graphics cards.

And if you consider yourself a sound enthusiast, then you agree with our conclusion with the AV 40s. So we can't be all that bad. :)
 
+1
I use them for my laptop setup when I'm on the go. Them and an old 22" BenQ screen. I really like Creatives latest efforts and use a T-3 system for my desktop at home.
 
[citation][nom]pita[/nom]I don't think Tom's is an appropriate place to talk about (any) 2.0 speakers, ...[/citation]
Agreeing with Don again. I think this article it's appropriate. Acoustic quality is very important to content creators. And that is what's most important about multi-core processors. We need all the multi-processing powers for Audio & Video creation. So Audio cannot be over looked.
 
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